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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Since more news is coming out about J&J.
    Good news is I've been approved for the 2 shot trail. I'm getting my first stot of the J&J one tomorrow.

    I'll be monitored for 2 years after the shot.


    That's great. Is that trial available to people in Ireland? Is there a 25% chance of you receiving a placebo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Wesekn.


    Refrigeration will be a challenge for all of africa will it not

    Important in our rush to vaccinate ourselves that we consider others, it's in our interest


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭tfeldi


    Wesekn. wrote: »
    Refrigeration will be a challenge for all of africa will it not

    Important in our rush to vaccinate ourselves that we consider others, it's in our interest

    What an outdated view of Africa. Yes it will be a challenge for SOME of Africa but it is not considerate of Africa to throw a whole continent in one bucket.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wesekn. wrote: »
    If that was rubbish I have no idea what this means

    People have spam filters and check emails on break what's the big deal
    Even if you filter them into folders it depends on how many you get. I used to get 300 emails a day in one job, none of them spam. A lot were just automated system emails but you still had to check them anyway. What you do is also a key factor. If it's largely not email-dependent you can get lax at going through them and they really build up very fast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    tfeldi wrote: »
    What an outdated view of Africa. Yes it will be a challenge for SOME of Africa but it is not considerate of Africa to throw a whole continent in one bucket.
    It's a challenge for many countries anyway and Oxford is a far more attractive option.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Wesekn.


    tfeldi wrote: »
    What an outdated view of Africa. Yes it will be a challenge for SOME of Africa but it is not considerate of Africa to throw a whole continent in one bucket.

    You misinterpreted my post

    When I said all of africa I mean to complete the job

    The refrigeration will be a challenge in some areas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Wesekn.


    Took africa years to get drug testing going

    Refrigerating and transporting the samples was a big part of the problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    My uncle is a nursing assistant and he got vaccinated this morning :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Great to hear these personal vaccination stories, as it makes the light at the end of the tunnel within grasp.


  • Registered Users Posts: 708 ✭✭✭conor_mc


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Great to hear these personal vaccination stories, as it makes the light at the end of the tunnel within grasp.

    My sister had her first dose on Sunday. Bon Secour in Cork.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    conor_mc wrote: »
    My sister had her first dose on Sunday. Bon Secour in Cork.

    Yeah should mention my uncle is in the orthopedic in Cork. Cork is flying!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,990 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Something I'm curious about. Everyone in groups 1 and 2 should have received their first dose by January 24th according to Donnelly. Does that mean group 3 can start receiving their first doses in the last week of January, or do they need those doses to start giving the people who were vaccinated at the start of January their second dose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Yeah should mention my uncle is in the orthopedic in Cork. Cork is flying!

    It's certainly flying in Cork all right. My wife is a Dublin nurse and has just had her vaccination appointment postponed for the second time. It's handy having the Taoiseach in your constituency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stark wrote: »
    Something I'm curious about. Everyone in groups 1 and 2 should have received their first dose by January 24th according to Donnelly. Does that mean group 3 can start receiving their first doses in the last week of January, or do they need those doses to start giving the people who were vaccinated at the start of January their second dose?
    Seems they'll do 1 & 2 completely first. Group 3 is the first big group , probably around 200K and that will use GPs, pharmacies etc. for rollout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    polesheep wrote: »
    It's certainly flying in Cork all right. My wife is a Dublin nurse and has just had her vaccination appointment postponed for the second time. It's handy having the Taoiseach in your constituency.

    Ah I didn't know that, sorry dude!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,590 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Since more news is coming out about J&J. They are on month 3 of the 2 shot trail.


    Good news is I've been approved for the 2 shot trail. I'm getting my first stot of the J&J one tomorrow.

    I'll be monitored for 2 years after the shot.




    Thanks for being a guinea pig for the rest of us fat bollixes ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Ah I didn't know that, sorry dude!

    She's not stressed about it. Never been ill a day of her life. But the roll-out does seem suspiciously uneven.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,785 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    So, all going well, we'll have nursing homes done a week early, just in time for astra, so an increased number of doses will be available earlier.........

    I'm not going to lie, I'm excited.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    hynesie08 wrote: »

    I'm not going to lie, I'm excited.

    The wattage of the bulb at the end of the tunnel has certainly increased.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    polesheep wrote: »
    It's certainly flying in Cork all right. My wife is a Dublin nurse and has just had her vaccination appointment postponed for the second time. It's handy having the Taoiseach in your constituency.
    Sorry to hear that, and I can very much relate. The lack of obvious rationale for which hospitals are sorted first is pretty frustrating for me as I said before. Even something like "we pick acute hospitals in order of local disease prevalence and freezer availability" would give everyone a fair picture of the situation.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I see the EMA have set the date for the AstraZeneca meeting for the 29th of January. I wonder will there be pressure to bring this forward again like with the other 2 vaccines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    People who have had Covid-19 may be asked to postpone getting vaccinated for six months. The news comes amid mounting evidence that previously infected people have protection, the chair of the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has said.

    Official guidance currently states vaccines should be offered regardless of whether people were previously infected, but this may change, Professor Karina Butler, Chair of the NIAC, told the Irish Independent.

    “There is a suggestion coming out that if you have had Covid you might be fairly well protected for six months and in that case we might find the advice will change and it will say, ‘if you have had Covid, wait the six months and then get it (the vaccine),’” said Prof Butler.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/people-who-had-covid-may-be-asked-to-postpone-their-vaccination-by-six-months-39958690.html

    That could certainly help things along


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    marno21 wrote: »
    I see the EMA have set the date for the AstraZeneca meeting for the 29th of January. I wonder will there be pressure to bring this forward again like with the other 2 vaccines.

    Is all the data already submitted?

    I'd say there will be pressure alright to get any vaccines approved asap


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Is all the data already submitted?

    I'd say there will be pressure alright to get any vaccines approved asap

    They submitted last night or this morning I think.

    Whether it's enough data? Only the regulators can say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    People who have had Covid-19 may be asked to postpone getting vaccinated for six months. The news comes amid mounting evidence that previously infected people have protection, the chair of the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has said.

    Official guidance currently states vaccines should be offered regardless of whether people were previously infected, but this may change, Professor Karina Butler, Chair of the NIAC, told the Irish Independent.

    “There is a suggestion coming out that if you have had Covid you might be fairly well protected for six months and in that case we might find the advice will change and it will say, ‘if you have had Covid, wait the six months and then get it (the vaccine),’” said Prof Butler.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/people-who-had-covid-may-be-asked-to-postpone-their-vaccination-by-six-months-39958690.html

    That could certainly help things along


    Great idea!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    is_that_so wrote: »
    As a matter of curiosity how might that work? If they got approval for a single shot would the process for 2 shots be any different?

    As far as I know if it's a different dosage you need to satisfy the regulators again but I'm not certain.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,993 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    But what about Israel?! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,990 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I'm wondering if I can do a vaccination holiday in Tel-Aviv once it becomes generally available there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Wife vaccinated on Sunday (first dose of Pfizer BioNTech), she is a Radiographer in UHL.

    As people have said it's great to know people that have received it. We're keeping the patient information leaflets, I'm sure people will be interested to see them in decades to come when they're learning about this in school. :)


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