COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Miike

Dressoutlet wrote: »

As in for administering the vaccine for the HSE
Or can we go and pay for a vaccine in a private hospital?

This will not be a thing for some time.

stephenjmcd

Just to note its planned after the weekend appearently to have these numbers on the geo hive hub and soon after on the covid app.

133,185 deliveries by Sunday. As mentioned the buffer is being reduced to the minium of a few days supply being kept back.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349724322248744966?s=19

ixoy

AdamD wrote: »

77300 Vaccinations completed to date according to HSE weekly press conference

And we get:

* "Which is extremely slow compared to countries of the same size, I heard when denmark will have 80% vaccinated, Ireland will have 4%"
- How the hell does anyone manage to get those figures?

* "0.8% of the population per week, only 2 and a half years to vaccinate the whole country at that rate!!!!!!"
- *drink* *drink*
That bloody cobbled-together graph projection is doing the rounds everywhere and people are taking it as gospel

stephenjmcd

ixoy wrote: »

And we get:

* "Which is extremely slow compared to countries of the same size, I heard when denmark will have 80% vaccinated, Ireland will have 4%"
- How the hell does anyone manage to get those figures?

* "0.8% of the population per week, only 2 and a half years to vaccinate the whole country at that rate!!!!!!"
- *drink* *drink*
That bloody cobbled-together graph projection is doing the rounds everywhere and people are taking it as gospel

Not to forget as well that god awful vaccine queue calculator. Utter rubbish

iguana

hmmm wrote: »

I think the HSE need to publish two figures prominently. Number of vaccines delivered by the manufacturers & number of vaccines administered.

I think we also need to see a third figure; number of vaccinations completed with second dose. If for no other reason than it will serve as a huge reminder to people to get their second dose by keeping people constantly conscious that a second dose is needed.

Obviously, that changes with any introduction of a one shot regimen.

hynesie08

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just to note its planned after the weekend appearently to have these numbers on the geo hive hub and soon after on the covid app.

133,185 deliveries by Sunday. As mentioned the buffer is being reduced to the minium of a few days supply being kept back.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349724322248744966?s=19

Good god the replies, any chance the vaccine cures stupidity....

ACitizenErased

We're doing pretty good. Long may it continue.

is_that_so

iguana wrote: »

I think we also need to see a third figure; number of vaccinations completed with second dose. If for no other reason than it will serve as a huge reminder to people to get their second dose by keeping people constantly conscious that a second dose is needed.

Obviously, that changes with any introduction of a one shot regimen.

There are none yet. About 4000 were done in December, they will get theirs next week.

Gael23

At the moment you can’t get near a GP so unless they open again it will be slower than predicted

How will you be informed when it’s your turn to get the vaccine?

iguana

is_that_so wrote: »

There are none yet. About 4000 were done in December, they will get theirs next week.

Yes, but once they start it would be good to see those numbers and just really keep driving home the 'second dose needed' message.

Deeper Blue

AdamD wrote: »

77300 Vaccinations completed to date according to HSE weekly press conference

By my calculations that's about 1.6 doses per 100 people which would put us in the top 10 countries worldwide

lucernarian

is_that_so wrote: »

And it won't because we have two villains to blame: the government and the HSE. They can't win here even if they do a superb job. IMO it's great that care homes will be done by next week but stories about dodgy hospital policies will gain more traction. 60% and more of us won't have a look-in on vaccines till summer yet what we need to do now just as we had to do the day before the vaccines arrive is to follow the guidance. Somehow in this vaccine mania we've forgotten that.

The HSE and any other public body can and should be held to account in a fair and rational manner. Blaming the fact that admin staff are getting doses ahead of elderly nursing staff close to retirement, on unavoidable supply issues is more than a bit disingenuous.

funnydoggy

is_that_so wrote: »

Private hospitals deal done.

What's this?

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Seán Defoe
@SeanDefoe
@BerryCathal
asks if we can get doses of AstraZeneca into the country ahead of its approval so it can be rolled out very quickly.

Leo Varadkar says he's not sure if that's possible because of the EU combined purchase system but he'll check it out

Bravo Cathal. That could make a huge difference.

seamus

Gael23 wrote: »

At the moment you can’t get near a GP so unless they open again it will be slower than predicted

How will you be informed when it’s your turn to get the vaccine?

As a data nerd, I am quite curious about the nuts and bolts of this.

I expect they will reach across the data protection lines somewhere to try and capture everyone.

The HSE will have a decent grasp via medical card registrations of where their age cohorts are. I wonder will they rely on just posting out appointment dates to the over 70s when their time comes, or will they have the GPs follow up with a phone call?

lucernarian

seamus wrote: »

As a data nerd, I am quite curious about the nuts and bolts of this.

I expect they will reach across the data protection lines somewhere to try and capture everyone.

The HSE will have a decent grasp via medical card registrations of where their age cohorts are. I wonder will they rely on just posting out appointment dates to the over 70s when their time comes, or will they have the GPs follow up with a phone call?

What about those without a medical card? I can't see how that would work sensibly.

is_that_so

lucernarian wrote: »

The HSE and any other public body can and should be held to account in a fair and rational manner. Blaming the fact that admin staff are getting doses ahead of elderly nursing staff close to retirement, on unavoidable supply issues is more than a bit disingenuous.

Reasonable and rational explanations been offered on this by multiple posters yet you seem utterly disinclined to accept any of them and that your prerogative.

TBH you've been "holding them to account" on these threads with no evidence except your own bias on anything they do so let's not use disingenuous to refer to other posters!

77,300 is not a bad number - evidence that they can both do this and are doing so at a reasonable pace.

iamwhoiam

lucernarian wrote: »

What about those without a medical card? I can't see how that would work sensibly.

All over 70 have a GP card , they are entitled to free GP visits and are registered with the HSE . Possibly not all apply for it but the vast majority over 70 do

trellheim

AZ to be approved on January 29th

is one possible date for its approval lads. Nobody has said its a done deal. If EMA see something off its back to the drawing board. ( don't put the mockers on it ) As OPs above have said they are looking at getting shipments of AZ in beforehand to be ready to go pending CMA auth from EMA

is_that_so

funnydoggy wrote: »

What's this?

Reid said it in his briefing.

Miike

seamus wrote: »

As a data nerd, I am quite curious about the nuts and bolts of this.

I expect they will reach across the data protection lines somewhere to try and capture everyone.

The HSE will have a decent grasp via medical card registrations of where their age cohorts are. I wonder will they rely on just posting out appointment dates to the over 70s when their time comes, or will they have the GPs follow up with a phone call?

GP practice management software (HealthOne, Socrates, CGP etc) should have a function (I believe Socrates does) to search for and identify all patients on their books who meet certain criteria.

I'm sure if the others mentioned don't support this function that it will VERY soon.

seamus

seamus wrote: »

As a data nerd, I am quite curious about the nuts and bolts of this.

I expect they will reach across the data protection lines somewhere to try and capture everyone.

The HSE will have a decent grasp via medical card registrations of where their age cohorts are. I wonder will they rely on just posting out appointment dates to the over 70s when their time comes, or will they have the GPs follow up with a phone call?

I know my Mam's GP has done up his own list, over 80's, over 75's, over 70's etc. and plans to start calling them in order and giving them appointments once approval is through and he is told to expect supply. Don't think there's anything official that has advised him to do this, but he's decided to take his own initiative.

Bubbaclaus

Looks like they are well ahead of expectations with the vaccine rollout and one of the best globally. Good to see.

leahyl

Deleted User wrote: »

I know my Mam's GP has done up his own list, over 80's, over 75's, over 70's etc. and plans to start calling them in order and giving them appointments once approval is through and he is told to expect supply. Don't think there's anything official that has advised him to do this, but he's decided to take his own initiative.

One of the most important criteria for any job - showing initiative. Good on him!

is_that_so

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Looks like they are well ahead of expectations with the vaccine rollout and one of the best globally. Good to see.

Underpromise and overdeliver!

CIARAN_BOYLE

Deleted User wrote: »

I know my Mam's GP has done up his own list, over 80's, over 75's, over 70's etc. and plans to start calling them in order and giving them appointments once approval is through and he is told to expect supply. Don't think there's anything official that has advised him to do this, but he's decided to take his own initiative.

Much better than my mother's gp.

He rang her up to tell her to make sure to reject all appointments offered. He would get her her vaccine at an appropriate moment.

He did the same in august about the flu vaccine (telling her not to get it in pharmacies) and she only got it from him in December. I hope she doesnt listen to him this time.

nommm

https://twitter.com/naomiohreally/status/1349726145827069952?s=21

Gael23

My GP won’t see anyone for any reason so don’t know how I’m supposed to get it. I had an infected eye last week and I was told to email in a picture of it

Stark

nommm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/naomiohreally/status/1349726145827069952?s=21

"Ramp up to keep up". It's almost like an inspirational Boris quote

Amirani

Gael23 wrote: »

My GP won’t see anyone for any reason so don’t know how I’m supposed to get it. I had an infected eye last week and I was told to email in a picture of it

Presumably your GP will start seeing people after they've been vaccinated, which will happen before you are due to get yours.