COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

quartz1

do Astra Zenical produce vaccine in the EU

Turtwig

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Updated vaccine number is 143000

It'd be nice if this number only included completed dosing schedules for the individual. Unless we have given 143,000 people two doses?

MerlinSouthDub

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1353745031316828160?s=20

It's a pretty basic question isn't it - how many vaccines have you made and who have you supplied them to? The fact that AZ haven't been able to answer it is odd, to say the least.

stephenjmcd

Short sharp statement there from the EU.

Another meeting with AstraZeneca tonight.

At this stage at least engagement is on going. I'd suspect based on the language used that they think AZ diverted supplies to the UK, if that is the case AZ will probably have to divert some production at UK sites into the EU

lbj666

AdamD wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLIs2tZ7Cp4&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=EuropeanCommission

Pretty serious statement being made. Very much looks like they are accusing Astrazenica of exporting the supplies the EU had ordered to other countries..

Serious statements for a vacine that hasn't been confirmed its been approved yet. Like i suggested previously is it possible Astra Zeneca are unhappy with the recommendation the EMA are expected to make and diverting orders elsewhere as a result.

snotboogie

Turtwig wrote: »

It'd be nice if this number only included completed dosing schedules for the individual. Unless we have given 143,000 people two doses?

No it's 143k shots. We are doing about 5k shots per day now. I understand the supply issues but it should be noted that we have a very, very significant ramping up to do. We need to be jabbing 50k-75k per day to match what the likes of Israel and the UAE are doing now.

ACitizenErased

Seems like the EU believe they've sent them to the UK... christ

timsey tiger

Turtwig wrote: »

It'd be nice if this number only included completed dosing schedules for the individual. Unless we have given 143,000 people two doses?

As long as it doesn't count the second dose in addition to the first, I think it is ok. Most countries count the first dose, with a second count for completed vaccinations.

titan18

snotboogie wrote: »

No it's 143k shots. We are doing about 5k shots per day now. I understand the supply issues but it should be noted that we have a very, very significant ramping up to do. We need to be jabbing 50k-75k per day to match what the likes of Israel and the UAE are doing now.

Do we know is it 143k people so that many has had 1 shot or 143k shots so some of those will be 2 shots

gally74

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Seems like the EU believe they've sent them to the UK... christ

very good communicator..... Commissioner Kyriakides

ixoy

AdamD wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLIs2tZ7Cp4&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=EuropeanCommission

Pretty serious statement being made. Very much looks like they are accusing Astrazenica of exporting the supplies the EU had ordered to other countries..

Interesting. I think this is possibly the most "annoyed" I've seen the EU since all of this began. Up to this point, each country were largely fighting their own battles. They seem genuinely pissed off now.

ACitizenErased

Very lucky we have the EU for this. If we ordered our own doses and this happened they would literally tell Donnelly to **** off.

is_that_so

snotboogie wrote: »

No it's 143k shots. We are doing about 5k shots per day now. I understand the supply issues but it should be noted that we have a very, very significant ramping up to do. We need to be jabbing 50k-75k per day to match what the likes of Israel and the UAE are doing now.

GP/Pharmacy network will be able to deliver 75,000-80,000 a week alone. HSE want to get to 1m a month at some point.

CIARAN_BOYLE

lbj666 wrote: »

Serious statements for a vacine that hasn't been confirmed its been approved yet. Like i suggested previously is it possible Astra Zeneca are unhappy with the recommendation the EMA are expected to make and diverting orders elsewhere as a result.

Well the EU paid hundreds of millions of euro in advance. Its not Astra Zenacas decision to divert what the EU has ordered and prepaid for.

titan18

ixoy wrote: »

Interesting. I think this is possibly the most "annoyed" I've seen the EU since all of this began. Up to this point, each country were largely fighting their own battles. They seem genuinely pissed off now.

Ya, they're getting tons of pressure of course from individual countries so they do have to come out strong on this. If AstraZeneca have done something like this, I'd hope the EU absolutely hammer them.

is_that_so

titan18 wrote: »

Do we know is it 143k people so that many has had 1 shot or 143k shots so some of those will be 2 shots

A small number would be second but that's the the first shot of care homes + c. 71K frontline staff done.

Amirani

Turtwig wrote: »

It'd be nice if this number only included completed dosing schedules for the individual. Unless we have given 143,000 people two doses?

There's been 121,900 first doses.

Gael23

Where will this go of AZ have sold EU vaccines to the UK?

is_that_so

Amirani wrote: »

There's been 121,900 first doses.

I think that 143,000 is a new total. If you're using our hub that's only updated on Thursdays at present.

Vicxas

Gael23 wrote: »

Where will this go of AZ have sold EU vaccines to the UK?

Apparently we paid a lot of money up front for AZ to get production ready for EU delivery. If they've used those doses for a non EU country i would say there would be hell to pay

Pablo Escobar

Amirani wrote: »

There's been 121,900 first doses.

That's as of last Wednesday. The 143,000 figure is up-to-date and cumulative.

Sky King

Gael23 wrote: »

Where will this go of AZ have sold EU vaccines to the UK?

They'll get a strongly worded letter!

Stark

Vicxas wrote: »

Apparently we paid a lot of money up front for AZ to get production ready for EU delivery. If they've used those doses for a non EU country i would say there would be hell to pay

Should have listened to Donnelly and taken early delivery when they had the chance.

VonLuck

is_that_so wrote: »

I think that 143,000 is a new total. If you're using our hub that's only updated on Thursdays at present.

I thought this was going to be daily from today onwards?

titan18

Gael23 wrote: »

Where will this go of AZ have sold EU vaccines to the UK?

At the least sued for breach of contract and they'll be repaying the money.

is_that_so

Sky King wrote: »

They'll get a strongly worded letter!

From an entity that fined Google over €1bn? Nope, they will go after them. aggressively if needs be.

Gael23

titan18 wrote: »

At the least sued for breach of contract and they'll be repaying the money.

Only if the contract states vaccines must be delivered by a certain date

is_that_so

VonLuck wrote: »

I thought this was going to be daily from today onwards?

Eventually, I suppose!

Pablo Escobar

is_that_so wrote: »

From an entity that fined Google over €1bn? Nope, they will go after them. aggressively if needs be.

Absolutely. The EU will be ruthless with this and will get it's way. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't very familiar with the EU.

The pantomime in the meantime will be interesting to watch.

NeuralNetwork

quartz1 wrote: »

do Astra Zenical produce vaccine in the EU

Effectively, yes. The vaccine is being produced in a contract manufacturing facility in Belgium.