COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Martina1991

zzdp wrote: »

Daughter got tested today ! Does anyone know the turn around time and are the labs working over xmas

Turnaround time should not be effected. Multiple reports from people in the 'Have you been tested' thread getting results around 30 hours or less.

Yes labs will be working 24/7/365 as they always are for all patient testing, not just for Covid.

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

COVID wards nurses/doctors

Why isn't this reported on?

ACitizenErased

Deleted User wrote: »

Why isn't this reported on?

its widely reported that vaccinations are starting dec 30th

Cork2021

ACitizenErased wrote: »

its widely reported that vaccinations are starting dec 30th

I suppose it’s to do with the total mismanagement of outbreaks in hospitals and they want to stop that then hit the nursing homes with bigger batches!!

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

its widely reported that vaccinations are starting dec 30th

You're right. So that means when they arrive they won't be left in storage until the 11th.

astrofool

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by this?

What do you think it means? Then I can correct any misunderstanding.

ACitizenErased

Deleted User wrote: »

You're right. So that means when they arrive they won't be left in storage until the 11th.

they'll be used outside of nursing homes anyway i know for a fact, i cant speak for nursing homes

ShineOn7

I'm probably just looking for some hope on a tough Christmas eve: but what are the regulars thoughts on when the first 14 of the 15 vaccination groups in Ireland will be all done?

Your best case scenario and/or the timeline you think will be most likely


I keep having this horrible feeling that the HSE will completely balls this up


It's at the centre of their wheelhouse and at the top of their CV: "Hi, we're the HSE. We balls things up"

Duke of Url

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I'm probably just looking for some hope on a tough Christmas eve: but what are the regulars thoughts on when the first 14 of the 15 vaccination groups in Ireland will be all done?

Your best case scenario and/or the timeline you think will be most likely


I keep having this horrible feeling that the HSE will completely balls this up


It's at the centre of their wheelhouse and at the top of their CV: "Hi, we're the HSE. We balls things up"

Is this the same HSE that have been administering millions of vaccines for decades?

speckle

astrofool wrote: »

There's no live virus involved in the current vaccines, so this isn't an issue.

Thanks..I know there is no live virus in this one ... managed to find part of the answer via UK re immunosuppressed

https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/using-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-in-immunosuppressed-patients/

And regarding previous anaphylactic shock for the other half

https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-cautions-and-contraindications/

A mixed result one no and one yes... hope this helps others ... remember to check the Irish advice and for any updates along the way. Have a talk with your elder folk and make sure their medical records are up to date and if unsure talk to their GP or specialist about weighing the balance of dis/advantages.

A reminder if you are getting the vaccine please take care over the coming months as there are a small minority of people who are high risk that cannot take this one at least.

This will be the hardest time for them until community immunity takes hold.. with some people possibly being asymtomatic but still infectious... as people will understandably be raring to get back to normal socializing etc

Good luck and health to you all.

Dickie10

wow i actually thought that holiday til 11th january thing was true. Isnt it shocking to think I wouldnt have been at all surprised by it. I think EU needs to grab us by the scruff of the neck and make us follow them step by step, HSE and NYPHET will try to drag this out all year

Water John

Your using a lie to justify why you have a negative opinion.

Yes, vaccinations starting on frontline workers next week.

zzdp

Martina1991 wrote:

Turnaround time should not be effected. Multiple reports from people in the 'Have you been tested' thread getting results around 30 hours or less.

Martina1991 wrote:

Yes labs will be working 24/7/365 as they always are for all patient testing, not just for Covid.

Tested at 12:40 today , negitive results at 9pm to be fair that's a great turnaround

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

they'll be used outside of nursing homes anyway i know for a fact, i cant speak for nursing homes

I had read that they would be administered before January but wasn't sure if it was definite. Then the Irish Times article worried me because it seemed very late considering the vaccines would be in the country.

After reading your post I googled again and found where it said the 30th.
Obviously I care about nursing home residents getting vaccinated but I'm just happy that the roll out is beginning sooner.

ACitizenErased

Happy Christmas to all on here. Hopefully this time next year we'll be saying 'nearly done' rather than 'nearly beginning' vaccinations.

marno21

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Happy Christmas to all on here. Hopefully this time next year we'll be saying 'nearly done' rather than 'nearly beginning' vaccinations.

Hopefully we'll be dying of a hangover from the night of the 23rd in the pub rather than on boards optimistically looking for vaccine news.

Happy Christmas to all. Hope you have a safe and enjoyable one and we have plenty to look forward to in 2021.

ShineOn7

Duke of Url wrote: »

Is this the same HSE that have been administering millions of vaccines for decades?

Do you really want to go down the road of how many ways they've ballsed things up for 20 years?

Happydays2020

is_that_so wrote: »

First we complain there is no vaccine, then there's not enough of it, then the date of vaccinations starting, then it'll be the "poor rollout" and finally we'll be on the case of the non-vaccinated!

Firstly, I qualified my remarks.

Secondly, my criticism of the HSE is not off target. I will not be wrong on this

The lack of humanity in this country is something else.

I was speaking to a friend in Germany tonight. His mother is in a nursing home, yet she was able to visit the house today for Christmas dinner - they did antigen testing on the family for risk analysis.

Cork2021

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Happy Christmas to all on here. Hopefully this time next year we'll be saying 'nearly done' rather than 'nearly beginning' vaccinations.

Merry Christmas ACE!! All going well this thread will be trivial come this time next year and we’ll all be having our normal Christmas back!!

patnor1011

https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/54/eabf8891

Welcome to the new normal. According to this vaccine will work for at least 8 months. It seems that whoever wants it will need to take an average of 6 jabs every 2 years.

AdamD

patnor1011 wrote: »

https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/54/eabf8891

Welcome to the new normal. According to this vaccine will work for at least 8 months. It seems that whoever wants it will need to take an average of 6 jabs every 2 years.

Guessing you haven't a breeze what 'at least' means so? And just think about it for a second - we only have about 8 months data, so they literally can't claim that it works for any longer.

mightyreds

AdamD wrote: »

Guessing you haven't a breeze what 'at least' means so? And just think about it for a second - we only have about 8 months data, so they literally can't claim that it works for any longer.

Unsurprisingly it was 6 months 2 months ago!
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-could-immunity-last-at-least-6-months

Deeper Blue

5 star thread

Happy Christmas folks

Hmmzis

patnor1011 wrote: »

https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/54/eabf8891

Welcome to the new normal. According to this vaccine will work for at least 8 months. It seems that whoever wants it will need to take an average of 6 jabs every 2 years.

That paper is about wild type infection immune response durability. It's actually looking rather good, the RBD directed memory B cells have undergone some maturation, so this confirms the Rockefeller University findings about germinal centers being rescued later in convalescence. That's good as the early antibodies are not all that great at dealing with single point mutants, the more matured ones are much better at that job.
Btw. This paper does not concern itself with vaccines at all.

hmmm

Sinovac's vaccine is 91.25% effective in Turkish phase 3 trial.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-turkey-china/turkey-says-chinas-sinovac-covid-vaccine-91-25-effective-in-late-trials-idUSKBN28Y1R1

Happy Christmas

schmoo2k

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I'm probably just looking for some hope on a tough Christmas eve: but what are the regulars thoughts on when the first 14 of the 15 vaccination groups in Ireland will be all done?

Your best case scenario and/or the timeline you think will be most likely


I keep having this horrible feeling that the HSE will completely balls this up


It's at the centre of their wheelhouse and at the top of their CV: "Hi, we're the HSE. We balls things up"

Hard to know for sure, but IMO if they are done prior to schools back in September then its game over for Covid...
Also if the high risk groups are done for spring / summer, then we should see real relaxations in the restrictions.

stephenjmcd

The dates when each nursing home will be vaccinated.

Happy Christmas folks, we're near to the end of this.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-when-every-care-home-in-the-country-will-get-their-supply-of-covid-19-vaccine-39899564.html

Duke of Url

Each Residential Care Facility will be allocated a ‘day one’ (first vaccination) and ‘day 21’ (second vaccination). All residents and staff will be invited to consent in advance and then receive vaccination on these dates wherever possible.

Does this mean that the facility will have both first and second vaccines on-site at the same time?

hynesie08

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The dates when each nursing home will be vaccinated.

Happy Christmas folks, we're near to the end of this.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-when-every-care-home-in-the-country-will-get-their-supply-of-covid-19-vaccine-39899564.html

Is that just the Pfizer vaccine? So when moderna rolls out in mid Jan that can focus on HCW and other vulnerable people? Jesus, I'm almost optimistic.......

Avoation1091

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The dates when each nursing home will be vaccinated.

Happy Christmas folks, we're near to the end of this.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-when-every-care-home-in-the-country-will-get-their-supply-of-covid-19-vaccine-39899564.html

Hope the frontline staff are between 30/12 and 11/01. Ireland could end up way behind if the 11 January is the start date.

Delighted to see vaccines being rolled out though. The end is near. Happy Christmas.