COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Mark1916

Gael23 wrote: »

It’s a one shot vaccine

They’re also doing a 2 dose trial, results by the summer

lbj666

Gael23 wrote: »

It’s a one shot vaccine

They are also trialling 2 dose

Mark1916

Oxford vaccine approved even for over 65

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-recommends-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-authorisation-eu

stephenjmcd

AstraZeneca approved for all over 18. 2nd dose anywhere between 4 & 12 weeks

"Most of the participants in these studies were between 18 and 55 years old. There are not yet enough results in older participants (over 55 years old) to provide a figure for how well the vaccine will work in this group. However, protection is expected, given that an immune response is seen in this age group and based on experience with other vaccines; as there is reliable information on safety in this population, EMA’s scientific experts considered that the vaccine can be used in older adults. More information is expected from ongoing studies, which include a higher proportion of elderly participants."

https://twitter.com/EMA_News/status/1355171602531569664?s=19

ACitizenErased

So the Germans jumped the gun...

cjyid

Today is a good day.

Apogee

BBC reporting EU is to place export controls on vaccines:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55860540

BBC wrote:

The European Union has confirmed it is introducing export controls on coronavirus vaccines made in the bloc, amid a row about delivery shortfalls."The protection and safety of our citizens is a priority and the challenges we now face left us with no choice but to act," the European Commission said.The EU is in a very public dispute with drug-maker AstraZeneca over supplies.The bloc is under growing pressure over the slow pace of vaccine distribution.The Commission earlier made public a disputed contract with the company to bolster its argument that AstraZeneca is failing to fulfil its promises.

afatbollix

lbj666 wrote: »

Do we know what intervals J&J are doing on the 2 dose trial?

I'm part of the 2 shot trial.

I go back after 57 days for the 2nd shot.


Great news with 1 jab. I mean amazing news. More than likely most of the current vaccines give this level of protection after 1 jab but never tested it in practice.

Maybe one of the benefits of all this is learning what trials worked best, pfizer seems to have the best. Oxford seems to have to prove the data so much more due to missed data or low % of the data sample. J&J had a few sub sets:
2 shot placebo
2 shot vaccine
First shot vaccine 2nd shot placebo
First shot placebo 2nd shot vaccine
Also different gaps between shots.
Meant that when they looked at the data they knew which one should of been best and did a full trial on it. Would help prove what the Brits did during trials etc.


Be even better if the 2 jab is higher but we should have millions vaccinated with 1 jab before that data comes out. Doubles the profits for J&J overnight.

stephenjmcd

Apogee wrote: »

BBC reporting EU is to place export controls on vaccines:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55860540

Companies just have to provide information on their exports, destination and quantity if going outside the EU. Nothing major really, a bit of extra paperwork at the end of the day

hmmm

Apogee wrote: »

BBC reporting EU is to place export controls on vaccines:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55860540

Ouch, 92 countries are exempted but not the UK.

Cork2021

So at least 5 vaccines will be available in Q2.
Roll on the summer

ACitizenErased

Anyone know when we can expect delivery?

seamus

lbj666 wrote: »

Do we know what intervals J&J are doing on the 2 dose trial?

2 months.

The dosing interval probably means we can just give out all of February and March supplies as first dose, that'll help.

is_that_so

ACitizenErased wrote: »

So the Germans jumped the gun...

It's more of a decision for their own vaccination programme and their prerogative.

ACitizenErased

EMA are live now

Stovepipe

Britain has already vaccinated 8 million or thereabouts; we've barely scratched the surface for half that number because they want to administer the vaccine via GPs at 60 eu a pop rather than just set up mass vaccination centres in every county and give it to all-comers.

ACitizenErased

Stovepipe wrote: »

Britain has already vaccinated 8 million or thereabouts; we've barely scratched the surface for half that number because they want to administer the vaccine via GPs at 60 eu a pop rather than just set up mass vaccination centres in every county and give it to all-comers.

Don't even know where to start on this

odyssey06

stephenjmcd wrote: »

AstraZeneca approved for all over 18. 2nd dose anywhere between 4 & 12 weeks

So the UK 'gamble' on wider gap between doses has been given the nod by the EMA, I wonder if it based on data from UK or from the trials. Interesting, and simplifies rollout.

ACitizenErased

odyssey06 wrote: »

So the UK 'gamble' on wider gap between doses has been given the nod by the EMA, I wonder if it based on data from UK or from the trials. Interesting, and simplifies rollout.

For AZ yes, not approved for Pfizer or Moderna like the Brits

Amirani

odyssey06 wrote: »

So the UK 'gamble' on wider gap between doses has been given the nod by the EMA, I wonder if it based on data from UK or from the trials. Interesting, and simplifies rollout.

The UK gamble in on Pfizer window.

AstraZeneca trials included 12 week window so wasn't untested.

ACitizenErased

EMA: No evidence vaccine is not effective against mutations

lbj666

odyssey06 wrote: »

So the UK 'gamble' on wider gap between doses has been given the nod by the EMA, I wonder if it based on data from UK or from the trials. Interesting, and simplifies rollout.

The EMA made the logical and scientific leap that the UK did and the Germans refused to do. There was enough other data from immonugenecity tests and trial data form other at risk groups say with a level of confidence efficacy was not going to be diminished.

Problem now is they are going to have a massive PR battle trying to convince people its fine, but results from UK from the next month of two should elay concerns.

stephenjmcd

With AZ approval and J&J data being released, today is a good day for vaccines and science

Stovepipe

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Don't even know where to start on this

Feel free. If you have a plan to cut out the heel-dragging, political and medical infighting,let us know.

leahyl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

With AZ approval and J&J data being released, today is a good day for vaccines and science

How long more before we, hopefully, hear an announcement re approval of J&J vaccine?

lbj666

stephenjmcd wrote: »

With AZ approval and J&J data being released, today is a good day for vaccines and science

Happy Friday everyone, RTE, Micheal Lehane, George Lee, Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock should all be gagged for the next 8 hours

Le Bruise

Stovepipe wrote: »

Feel free. If you have a plan to cut out the heel-dragging, political and medical infighting,let us know.

Can we not just enjoy the good news for a bit?

Sconsey

Stovepipe wrote: »

Britain has already vaccinated 8 million or thereabouts; we've barely scratched the surface for half that number because they want to administer the vaccine via GPs at 60 eu a pop rather than just set up mass vaccination centres in every county and give it to all-comers.

Stovepipe wrote: »

Feel free. If you have a plan to cut out the heel-dragging, political and medical infighting,let us know.

You think we are behind the UK because of a requirement for GP's to administer the vaccine? wow.

Have the EMA advised on an observation period after the injection or will that be left up the national authorities?