COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

frozen3

frozen3 wrote: »

It is brilliant alright

Encouraging, interesting and scary at the same time, sometimes its nearly better not to read thoughts of those scientists, alot I don't understand anyway

Scientists are going to have many sleepless nights with this Sars Cov 2

Well the important takeaway is that the vaccines should prove effective in controlling the current variants.

ACitizenErased

Anyone know how we're looking for vaccination timeframes now with the extra AZ doses and the Pfizer ramp up?

eigrod

timsey tiger wrote: »

Are we testing the close contacts yet?

https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1355863200353427457?s=21

Malcomex

frozen3 wrote: »

We are looking good

But no white flags yet.

Its still out there planning its next move

It is but the signs are good that science will prevail

Summer2020

Water John wrote: »

stay the course.

If I hear that phrase one more f*cking time... really irritating phrase.right up there with ‘hold firm’.

zuutroy

Summer2020 wrote: »

If I hear that phrase one more f*cking time... really irritating phrase.right up there with ‘hold firm’.

You need to redouble your efforts at staying the course imo.

Summer2020

zuutroy wrote: »

You need to redouble your efforts at staying the course imo.

Of course. Sure the next 2 weeks are crucial.

josip

Now that Oxford has been approved by the EMA do we know:

1. When the first vaccines will arrive?
2. How many vaccines will be in the initial delivery?
3. When will the first 85+ person actually get vaccinated?

lbj666

https://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/share/radio1/11276561

7 mins in. Dobbo says the HSE plans/had planned to use AZ in older groups but I don't think that's yet confirmedafter meeting over the weekend.
Head of heath products regulation authority, interviewed says there will be substantial data from US trial in march end confirming efficacy but there's no doubt it will be effective based on immunity result just a question of how much.

There still seems to be mixed signals on what the plan is. But it's not up to the HPRA to make the call.

ACitizenErased

Updated vaccination number: 199800
150,500 first doses - 49,300 second doses

is_that_so

josip wrote: »

Now that Oxford has been approved by the EMA do we know:

1. When the first vaccines will arrive?
2. How many vaccines will be in the initial delivery?
3. When will the first 85+ person actually get vaccinated?

Next week
We'll have to wait and see.
Probably the following week as that is the mid-February planned start point.

josip

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Updated vaccination number: 199800
150,500 first doses - 49,300 second doses

Going by the SBB infographic in January, 150,000 would exceed nursing home residents and FCWs by roughly 25,000.






Are nursing home staff considered FCWs or Group 4, other HCWs ?
If so, it would appear that all of Groups 1, 2 and 3 have received their first dose?

Or are the SBB numbers incorrect?

Responder XY

Has there been a definition of "overcrowded settings" in respect of phase 8?

is_that_so

josip wrote: »

Going by the SBB infographic in January, 150,000 would exceed nursing home residents and FCWs by roughly 25,000.






Are nursing home staff considered FCWs or Group 4, other HCWs ?
If so, it would appear that all of Groups 1, 2 and 3 have been vaccinated?

Some GPs and other community HCWs would have been done as well. They will be needed.

titan18

Lots of group 4 and some of group 6 have likely been done, and of course some who should not have been close to done yet

ACitizenErased

josip wrote: »

Going by the SBB infographic in January, 150,000 would exceed nursing home residents and FCWs by roughly 25,000.






Are nursing home staff considered FCWs or Group 4, other HCWs ?
If so, it would appear that all of Groups 1, 2 and 3 have received their first dose?

Or are the SBB numbers incorrect?

Fairly certain group 4 is basically done now too. Have a family member in group 4 and already has his second dose

is_that_so

Responder XY wrote: »

Has there been a definition of "overcrowded settings" in respect of phase 8?

Disadvantaged sociodemographic groups more likely to experience a higher burden of infection.

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Updated vaccination number: 199800
150,500 first doses - 49,300 second doses

About 1% of the population fully vaccinated. I know it doesn't sound like alot, but it's those at most risk.

Mitch Connor

is_that_so wrote: »

Next week
We'll have to wait and see.
Probably the following week as that is the mid-February planned start point.

if the vaccines start to arrive on Monday, the should be getting administered by tuesday or wednesday. We need to speed up the rollout and waiting a week would be tragic.

BigMo1

Seems to be a decent amount of good news after a really disheartening couple weeks. Hopefully February brings some more and we can gather momentum.

lbj666

josip wrote: »

Going by the SBB infographic in January, 150,000 would exceed nursing home residents and FCWs by roughly 25,000.






Are nursing home staff considered FCWs or Group 4, other HCWs ?
If so, it would appear that all of Groups 1, 2 and 3 have received their first dose?

Or are the SBB numbers incorrect?

that graphic isnt a greater representation of nursing homes, it doesnt include staff which is nearly 1:1 ration with patients. Nursing homes are well into their 2nd dose including staff.

there are many in group 2 that still haven't had their 1st dose due to pfizer delays.

is_that_so

Mitch Connor wrote: »

if the vaccines start to arrive on Monday, the should be getting administered by tuesday or wednesday. We need to speed up the rollout and waiting a week would be tragic.

They'd need to be checked & distributed first. The over 70s date is mid-February and don't forget there are still a lot of second doses to do each week in care homes.

Mitch Connor

Wolf359f wrote: »

About 1% of the population fully vaccinated. I know it doesn't sound like alot, but it's those at most risk.

until the numbers of people vaccinated starts to allow the lockdowns to be eased, the general population will not like the numbers.

It is great people are being vaccinated, the most vulnerable, but the government is basing its decisions on cases, not mortality. so they need to change their guidelines or hurry the f up.

irishlad.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1356244140917313537

This was a welcome surprise, higher than I expected. We will really see a ramp-up of vaccinations from next week. Its up, up, up from here lads

Mitch Connor

is_that_so wrote: »

They'd need to be checked & distributed first. The over 70s date is mid-February and don't forget there are still a lot of second doses to do each week in care homes.

the AZ shipment is coming a week wearly. so if they were planned for the over 70's, at mid-feb, then the fact they are coming a week earlier should mean they start getting out there a week earlier.

If that means workign day and night from Monday through to getting them out there, so be it. Organize and pay for what is needed. Sitting on them for a week because they came a week early would be pathetic.

polesheep

josip wrote: »

Going by the SBB infographic in January, 150,000 would exceed nursing home residents and FCWs by roughly 25,000.






Are nursing home staff considered FCWs or Group 4, other HCWs ?
If so, it would appear that all of Groups 1, 2 and 3 have received their first dose?

Or are the SBB numbers incorrect?

There's still staff working on Covid wards who have yet to be vaccinated. The INMO has been told that it will be done February 8th.

frozen3

Wolf359f wrote: »

About 1% of the population fully vaccinated. I know it doesn't sound like alot, but it's those at most risk.

Its good

All 1,2,4 with a jab by 1st Feb?

If we have 3 with a jab by 1st March we are in a good place.

Only anecdotal but nursing home my wife works in has had an outbreak over the last 2 weeks in ( Limerick County ) she, lots of staff and residents were vaccinated a week or so before outbreak occurred and so far everone has only had mild symptoms, a similar sized nursing home had something like 18 deaths and alot of sickness over Christmas pre vaccine

Only early days yet there but based on what they've seen, that the one jab is giving some protection for severe illness.

is_that_so

Mitch Connor wrote: »

the AZ shipment is coming a week wearly. so if they were planned for the over 70's, at mid-feb, then the fact they are coming a week earlier should mean they start getting out there a week earlier.

If that means workign day and night from Monday through to getting them out there, so be it. Organize and pay for what is needed. Sitting on them for a week because they came a week early would be pathetic.

Yeah, that's next week. They still have to get through the care homes and HCWs first for 2nd shots. So relax! Taking a week to check everything is properly in place is a good thing and when we get to gen pop it will move a lot faster.

BigMo1

I do wonder when we have 5-10% of population vaccinated and mortality really tails off, how that will effect government plans. Obviously given the situation since Xmas week, harsh lockdowns are widely accepted as they're clearly necessary but when death is very minimal, that may change.

is_that_so

frozen3 wrote: »

Its good

All 1,2,4 with a jab by 1st Feb?

If we have 3 with a jab by 1st March we are in a good place.

Only anecdotal but nursing home my wife works in has had an outbreak over the last 2 weeks in ( Limerick County ) she, lots of staff and residents were vaccinated a week or so before outbreak occurred and so far everone has only had mild symptoms, a similar sized nursing home had something like 18 deaths and alot of sickness over Christmas pre vaccine

Only early days yet there but based on what they've seen, that the one jab is giving some protection for severe illness.

They have skipped a few homes with outbreaks for now and they'll be added on in a month or so.