COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Gael23

timsey tiger wrote: »

Pure pr guff, Brexiteer posturing and bolloxology, by the time the UK are done, we'll be well on our way with our supply lines sorted.

If they continue to take deleveries beyond what they need, they should give them to poor countries. Otherwise they would just not exercise their contracts and let the suppliers deliver the vaccines to the next customer.

Of course if they want to pay for our vaccines thanks :rolleyes:

Such a deal I imagine would come with major strings attached

Doc07

frozen3 wrote: »

They are not virologists

We should have them addressing the nation

Cilian de Gascun is a full time virologist and sits at the green table with Tony and Philip Nan every week , he’s also chair of NPHETs expert advisory group.

KrustyUCC

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mutation-of-kent-variant-detected-in-samples-could-help-virus-evade-immune-system-12206375

Worrying development

Hopefully it doesn't become dominant in all the UK strain

Vicxas

So apparently the Russian Sputnik V is 91.6% effective

AdamD

markodaly wrote: »

It is not my opinion, it is the opinion of a member of NPHET... which outweighs yours.

People need to be positive, but they also need to be realistic, because if we go and make the same mistake as we did twice already, then there will be no one to blame but ourselves when we find ourselves in another lockdown.

Case in point, do people remember the mantra about 'deserving' a summer or a Christmas? How did that go?

Things will get better, but it will be a much slower burn then the last few times. The reasons are obvious.

What about the obvious reasons to the contrary?

Better weather is almost certainly a factor
We will have significant chunks of the population vaccinated by summer
We should be coming off a low base of cases by the end of this lockdown

Comparisons between this upcoming summer and what happened at Christmas are laughable

snotboogie

AdamD wrote: »

What about the obvious reasons to the contrary?

Better weather is almost certainly a factor
We will have significant chunks of the population vaccinated by summer
We should be coming off a low base of cases by the end of this lockdown

Comparisons between this upcoming summer and what happened at Christmas are laughable

I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of this. Brazil is currently at its highest 7 day average new cases ever and its the middle of their summer.

josip

Vicxas wrote: »

So apparently the Russian Sputnik V is 91.6% effective

Once it's published in the Lancet we can trust the results?
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

It's a relatively cheap, double doser, normal fridge storage kinda vaccine.
https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/

Tyrone212

Better than the Oxford vaccine.

polesheep

polesheep wrote: »

Does 'responded well' mean increased antibodies? Thanks.

Very much so.

astrofool

Cork2021 wrote: »

Ah but that’s fantastical thinking. We shall not return to normal.
Vaccines will be in mass rollout come April. Some people will just have to get used to it!! Normality will return. Some things will stay like some will always now wear masks especially in winter more people will get the flu jab, more people will attend loca primary health care rather then go to a&e all these are positive and will help us in the future.

It will be normal based on previous events, e.g after 9/11, extra airport security became normal, but over time we'll go back to the same (barring having mRNA as a viable treatment for many illnesses) and masks and distancing will go the way of the salt stockpiles from the Beast from the East.

It's also good to see 99% uptake on Vaccines, it looks like anti-vaxxers change their mind as they get older for some reason.

Mr.Wemmick

This is very worrying coming out of the UK re: covid outbreaks in vaccinated elderly. Makes the 12 week wait for the second vaccine shot a very bad decision.

https://twitter.com/runnermandoc/status/1356337026757492738?s=20

Quantum Baloney

When do people think we will be able to go into cafes and shops without masks? End of the year, or earlier?

Quantum Baloney

astrofool wrote: »

It will be normal based on previous events, e.g after 9/11, extra airport security became normal, but over time we'll go back to the same

I'm not sure 9.11 is a very good example as a lot of the measures brought in still remain there today, which is its own story.

Cork2021

Another vaccine on the way..
They will apply to the EMA, so we’ll need to wait and see after that but with the Lancet publishing some great results from Sputnik V there’s no reason for it not to get approved.

https://twitter.com/sputnikint/status/1356590945324724225?s=21

astrofool

Mr.Wemmick wrote: »

This is very worrying coming out of the UK re: covid outbreaks in vaccinated elderly. Makes the 12 week wait for the second vaccine shot a very bad decision.

https://twitter.com/runnermandoc/status/1356337026757492738?s=20

The immune response of the elderly will be lower than others, so this makes sense. What's missing is the severity of symptoms of those that developed COVID-19, that's what really matters.

seamie78

what sort of production capacity have the Russian, will it be a case of having supplies ready to go once approved

Cork2021

seamie78 wrote: »

what sort of production capacity have the Russian, will it be a case of having supplies ready to go once approved

It’s all in the article. They’ve plenty of product sites across the world.
They’ve said already if approved by the EMA, they’ve 100m doses ready for Q2.

polesheep

astrofool wrote: »

It will be normal based on previous events, e.g after 9/11, extra airport security became normal, but over time we'll go back to the same (barring having mRNA as a viable treatment for many illnesses) and masks and distancing will go the way of the salt stockpiles from the Beast from the East.

It's also good to see 99% uptake on Vaccines, it looks like anti-vaxxers change their mind as they get older for some reason.

Or else they die younger😉

Irish Stones

snotboogie wrote: »

I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of this. Brazil is currently at its highest 7 day average new cases ever and its the middle of their summer.

I remember when, at the beginning, they would tell us that the summer would have brought in a steep improvement because the heat was a killer for the virus, but they forgot to look at the side of the world where it was hot and still people were getting sick!

astrofool

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

I'm not sure 9.11 is a very good example as a lot of the measures brought in still remain there today, which is its own story.

There's some events that we look back on and realise the stupidity of our ways (domestic US flights had basically no security back then), other examples would be Chernobyl, which changed how we built nuclear reactors forever more, others that we just switch away from when the event is over.

braychelsea

Mr.Wemmick wrote: »

This is very worrying coming out of the UK re: covid outbreaks in vaccinated elderly. Makes the 12 week wait for the second vaccine shot a very bad decision.

And just to combat this anecdotal evidence.....


https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1356581395536244738?s=20

astrofool

Irish Stones wrote: »

I remember when, at the beginning, they would tell us that the summer would have brought in a steep improvement because the heat was a killer for the virus, but they forgot to look at the side of the world where it was hot and still people were getting sick!

It's more that people are outside more often reducing transmission vectors rather than cooped up inside as we are now. It doesn't look like the virus is that effected by weather, but our behaviour (and the behaviour which is more likely to result in transmission) definitely is effected by the weather.

astrofool

braychelsea wrote: »

And just to combat this anecdotal evidence.....


https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1356581395536244738?s=20

Again, the age profiles for this data is the important thing.

KrustyUCC

josip wrote: »

Once it's published in the Lancet we can trust the results?
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

It's a relatively cheap, double doser, normal fridge storage kinda vaccine.
https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/

Very promising results

Would be great to have another approved vaccine

Happydays2020

Irish Stones wrote: »

I remember when, at the beginning, they would tell us that the summer would have brought in a steep improvement because the heat was a killer for the virus, but they forgot to look at the side of the world where it was hot and still people were getting sick!

A European summer is different to summers elsewhere. We are out on the fresh air more. It is not the same in hot and humid and crowded cities.

Harry Palmr

Any word on the number of vaccines administered so far?

Bubbaclaus

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Any word on the number of vaccines administered so far?

199,800 doses up to Sunday night.

gally74

Cork2021 wrote: »

Another vaccine on the way..
They will apply to the EMA, so we’ll need to wait and see after that but with the Lancet publishing some great results from Sputnik V there’s no reason for it not to get approved.

https://twitter.com/sputnikint/status/1356590945324724225?s=21

from reading is it a stronger or better vaccine than oxford?

astrofool

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Any word on the number of vaccines administered so far?

200k injections and counting, details on who is here:
https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout-covid-19-vaccines-ireland.html

Worldwide data here (some countries data is a few days behind, but good for trends):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

RugbyLad11

seamie78 wrote: »

what sort of production capacity have the Russian, will it be a case of having supplies ready to go once approved

There is so much vaccine news these days so it's hard to keep track. But I think I read something about Russia saying they can provide 100m doses to the EU in Q2.