COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

ACitizenErased

titan18 wrote: »

Depends, are the EMA asking for lots more data than others resulting in AstraZeneca having to gather lots more on their side to even submit an application

Astrazeneca should have the data ready, they've obviously dealt with the EMA before

MerlinSouthDub

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Its a different type of approval which requires more data

If EMA is going to take a month longer (or more), then I'm expecting an EU country to break ranks and grant its own emergency approval.

kazamo

Minister Donnelly on the radio atm.

Apparently vaccinating 40,000 people a week is a very ambitious target.
With a population of 4.4m, it would take 110 weeks to complete this process.

So COVID free in March23.......wow

Happydays2020

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

If EMA is going to take a month longer (or more), then I'm expecting an EU country to break ranks and grant its own emergency approval.

Perhaps as a separate contract and presumably they will then have to withdraw from the EUR procurement process.

stephenjmcd

kazamo wrote: »

Minister Donnelly on the radio atm.

Apparently vaccinating 40,000 people a week is a very ambitious target.
With a population of 4.4m, it would take 70 weeks to complete this process.

So COVID free in March23.......wow

Based on one vaccine. Not sure how difficult it is to understand that, more that come through the approval process the quicker the vacination process progresses.

The whole timeline is based on only 1 vaccine

stephenjmcd

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

If EMA is going to take a month longer (or more), then I'm expecting an EU country to break ranks and grant its own emergency approval.

Can do that if they want but they won't have supply through the EU purchasing.

hynesie08

kazamo wrote: »

Minister Donnelly on the radio atm.

Apparently vaccinating 40,000 people a week is a very ambitious target.
With a population of 4.4m, it would take 110 weeks to complete this process.

So COVID free in March23.......wow

How many people should we be vaccinating with 40, 000 doses?

funnydoggy

Gonna have faith in Leo and Micheal with them both expecting normality by late summer. This all hinges on more than one vaccine being distributed which is almost a certainty.

We're in the endgame.

ACitizenErased

The second pfizer delivery has arrived apparently

Stheno

Second delivery has arrived
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1343909526467174408?s=19

funnydoggy

I hope Annie isn't too nervous

ACitizenErased

Not a sign of it being live on telly ffs, they should be showing this everywhere

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Not a sign of it being live on telly ffs, they should be showing this everywhere

Theres not a hope of that happening, they are obsessed with privacy

funnydoggy

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Not a sign of it being live on telly ffs, they should be showing this everywhere

Second biggest thing in 2020 and they're not telivising it. Shame!

GooglePlus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Not a sign of it being live on telly ffs, they should be showing this everywhere

The media doesn't work to benefit the nation, they want to raise viewership and the vaccine delivery card has ready been drawn. Not everyone is as interested as this as those on this forum.

VinLieger

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Based on one vaccine. Not sure how difficult it is to understand that, more that come through the approval process the quicker the vacination process progresses.

The whole timeline is based on only 1 vaccine

How does more vaccines magically make it easier to vaccinate more people if by the minister for healths own admission we cant even make use of all the ones we currently have?

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The second pfizer delivery has arrived apparently

Once they delivery on the 40k each week in the next 2 weeks then they can be fairly confident in the supply chain

GooglePlus

kazamo wrote: »

Minister Donnelly on the radio atm.

Apparently vaccinating 40,000 people a week is a very ambitious target.
With a population of 4.4m, it would take 110 weeks to complete this process.

So COVID free in March23.......wow

That's not taking into account the potential for a need for annual vaccines. This isn't necessarily a lifelong immunity.

stephenjmcd

VinLieger wrote: »

How does more vaccines magically make it easier to vaccinate more people if by the minister for healths own admission we cant even make use of all the ones we currently have?

Well if you've more vaccines available you can reach more people....

What do you mean not make use of the ones we currently have?

ACitizenErased

Bingo
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1343913632019730433?s=21

VinLieger

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well if you've more vaccines available you can reach more people....

What do you mean not make use of the ones we currently have?

Sorry the ones we should start receiving in the next week or so.

kazamo wrote: »

Minister Donnelly on the radio atm.

Apparently vaccinating 40,000 people a week is a very ambitious target.
With a population of 4.4m, it would take 110 weeks to complete this process.

So COVID free in March23.......wow

We supposedly are going to be getting 40k pfizer vaccines per week very soon yet the minister for health has clearly said 40k vaccinations per week is an ambitious target ,therefore it may not be possible so how in your own words does more vaccines make it magically possible to then vaccinate more people if we wont be able to vaccinate 40k per week when we are receving that number on a weekly basis?


IE once oxford is approved and start shipping and we have lets say 40k of them plus 40k of pfizer per week how do we then do 80k vaccinations per week if 40k is again as the minister says ambitious?

Bubbaclaus

https://twitter.com/CcoHse/status/1343913704631513090?s=19

Stheno

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CcoHse/status/1343913704631513090?s=19

I'm amazed they actually published that

Its good to see

Gael23

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CcoHse/status/1343913704631513090?s=19

You got there before me!

ACitizenErased

And the fun begins....

Gael23

Stheno wrote: »

I'm amazed they actually published that

Its good to see

It would be published with her permission of course

stephenjmcd

VinLieger wrote: »

Sorry the ones we should start receiving in the next week or so.





We supposedly are going to be getting 40k pfizer vaccines per week very soon yet the minister for health has clearly said 40k vaccinations per week is an ambitious target ,therefore it may not be possible so how in your own words does more vaccines make it magically possible to then vaccinate more people if we wont be able to vaccinate 40k per week when we are receving that number on a weekly basis?


IE once oxford is approved and start shipping and we have lets say 40k of them plus 40k of pfizer per week how do we then do 80k vaccinations per week if 40k is again as the minister says ambitious?

Stroage requirements of moderna and Oxford will allow both GPs and Pharmacists to administer them taking away the pressure on public health vacination teams and therefore speeding up the process while allowing vacination teams to concentrate on the most vulnerable that might not be able to attend mass vaccination centres, GP or pharmacy.

I'm not sure how its that difficult to follow to be honest.

kazamo

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Based on one vaccine. Not sure how difficult it is to understand that, more that come through the approval process the quicker the vacination process progresses.

The whole timeline is based on only 1 vaccine

Problem won’t be approval, it’s access to the vaccines and capacity to administer and willingness to do it with any sense of urgency.

Have heard all morning that we are administering the first dose after 1.30 this afternoon. Heaven forbid we may have started it at 9am, but hey, we should all be very happy, it is a day earlier than planned.

Another 30k vaccines are due in today, but we are just looking at administering a fraction of half of what arrived last Saturday.
So out of possibly 40k vaccines available, it will be less than 5k administered by the end of the week.

Not even been told how many will be vaccinated this week. That question has been dodged twice today already.

40k vaccines a week is not very ambitious....it’s low balling and the Health Minister wasn’t challenged on it.

AdamD

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Stroage requirements of moderna and Oxford will allow both GPs and Pharmacists to administer them taking away the pressure on public health vacination teams and therefore speeding up the process while allowing vacination teams to concentrate on the most vulnerable that might not be able to attend mass vaccination centres, GP or pharmacy.

I'm not sure how its that difficult to follow to be honest.

I don't think you're following his point at all. The minister has said 40k per week is an ambitious target, if he is saying that from a logistical rather than supply POV then we're in trouble. We need to be comfortably doing multiples of that per week by Spring to have any hope of normality

ACitizenErased

AdamD wrote: »

I don't think you're following his point at all. The minister has said 40k per week is an ambitious target, if he is saying that from a logistical rather than supply POV then we're in trouble. We need to be comfortably doing multiples of that per week by Spring to have any hope of normality

With pharmacies and GPs we will be doing many multiples of 40k per week. 40k per week is Pfizer alone. Head of task force said today when the deliveries start flowing we could be looking at 500k doses a week arriving.