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2020 has been great

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    The thing is you’re just assuming how they feel. Should everyone start their posts with a disclaimer if they’re even possibly going to be received as positive?

    *Disclaimer I feel great empathy and sorrow for all those who’ve lost their lives, this post which may be humorous or positive in nature is by no means intended to offend, mock, make light of, or undermine the current global situation in any way. Please read posts with caution, some disproportionate outrage may occur.

    Starting a thread called 2020 has been great shows lack of consideration from the outset..

    Pure I’m allright jack mentality.

    Nothing to do with disclaimers....in fact you will see the poster who says...we don HAVE to feel empathy ...and hopes for more lockdowns so they don’t have to engage with people when others are dying alone is poor.

    It’s important to say positive, but saying 2020 has been great is a step to far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    anewme wrote: »
    Starting a thread called 2020 has been great shows lack of consideration from the outlet.

    Pure I’m allright jack mentality.

    Nothing to do with disclaimers....in fact you will see the poster who says...we don HAVE to feel empathy ...and hopes for more lockdowns so they don’t have to engage with people when others are dying alone is poor.

    It’s important to say positive, but saying 2020 has been great is a step to far.

    Ah but it's great for some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    GarIT wrote: »
    Great thing about COVID is you don't have to be creeped out by that weird person who hangs out in your social group and won't leave despite knowing they aren't wanted.

    Maybe I am a little glad that people like that suffered.

    What kind of person is glad that another person is suffering from Loneliness?


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Alfred123


    boardise wrote: »
    I wonder does the dog feel the same ? :-)

    Dog's thinkin:" this guy's spendin an inordinate amount of feckin time indoors ! He's always loafing about. Gets a bit Moody as well .. etc ..

    Be nice have the place to meself now and then .. this honeymoon period's over, mate. Shape up in 2021 - get a job .. or else ..

    Meanwhile, wheres me grub ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Nah its been sh!te.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Alfred123 wrote: »
    Dog's thinkin:" this guy's spendin an inordinate amount of feckin time indoors ! He's always loafing about. Gets a bit Moody as well .. etc ..

    Be nice have the place to meself now and then .. this honeymoon period's over, mate. Shape up in 2021 - get a job .. or else ..

    Meanwhile, wheres me grub ?

    What about the poor dogs that have got the raw deal. Apparently in Spain some guy was caught literally renting out his dog for walks (walking your pet was one of the exceptions for going outdoors) and people spotted the dog had been out like ten times in one day :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    Just shows you there are c*nts that are loving this- probably big fans of sociopathic nazi war criminals like Klaus Schwabb...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    anewme wrote: »
    What kind of person is glad s that another person is suffering from Loneliness?

    One that's sick of hearing their ****e and them trying to bring me down with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    GarIT wrote: »
    One that's sick of hearing their ****e and them trying to bring me down with them.

    Wishing badness on someone else only reflects on yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    anewme wrote: »
    Wishing badness on someone else only reflects on yourself.

    Grand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Just shows you there are c*nts that are loving this- probably big fans of sociopathic nazi war criminals like Klaus Schwabb...

    Oh my god how did you know? Careful this guy has the inside track :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    anewme wrote: »
    Wishing badness on someone else only reflects on yourself.

    So does thanking a post that calls people cúnts and Nazis because they dare to be happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Alfred123


    They'll be controlling how we feel about our dogs next . You should feel this and not that about Shep etc -

    Even the Ministress of Justice is bringing out some 'Hate law' thingy in 2021 (? .. ) .. more Control anyway

    It all seems a bit muddly and confused .. but basically boils down to .. from 2021, it'll be illegal to hate even yourself ..

    and if eg. If you spot yourself giving yourself dirty looks while shaving in front of mirror some morning - ..that right there is SELF HATE .. you shd fess up hand yourself into local Garda station ..

    Once we can control the feelings, we got em ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Antares35 wrote: »
    So does thanking a post that calls people cúnts because they dare to be happy.

    Nothing to do with daring to be happy.

    Mioreso happy at the expense of others and openly acknowledging that others misery makes them happy.

    Reminded me earlier that during the wars one side must have been happy at others misery.

    Didnt make it morally right though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    anewme wrote: »
    Nothing to do with daring to be happy.

    Mioreso happy at the expense of others and openly acknowledging that others misery makes them happy.

    Reminded me earlier that during the wars one side must have been happy at others misery.

    Didnt make it morally right though.
    Do you accept that we can be sad for global human suffering while also manage to be happy in ourselves? Those positions are not mutually exclusive. If you can't, then covid aside, how do you get through the day? And I'm not being smart, but there is suffering everywhere. If you don't allow yourself to be happy just because others are suffering then when will you be happy?

    And for the avoidance of doubt, I never said I was happy because people died from covid or lost their jobs etc. But I do hope that going forward, employers recognise that WFH can contribute to a better work life balance.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GarIT wrote: »
    Great thing about COVID is you don't have to be creeped out by that weird person who hangs out in your social group and won't leave despite knowing they aren't wanted.

    Maybe I am a little glad that people like that suffered.

    Jaysus :(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's kinda funny that the OP has made three posts in the last year and nine months. Their last post would suggest they are busy playing GTA5.

    Hopefully they'll check out their thread at some point and at least think to themselves "cripes."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    I like 2020. It was kewl. I did a poo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Valresnick


    Don’t think we should blame it all on 2020. We’ve been going downhill for a good few years now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Alfred123


    Joe Duffy will be on €1000, 000 p.a bfore we see any real changes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This is a weird thread.

    Can people not accept that everyone is an individual, with a different personality, a different outlook on life and different life circumstances?

    Of course this year had positives for some people while being overwhelmingly negative for others, but everyone should still be able to give their perspective.

    On the whole it's been negative for me, but it's heartening to see that others have enjoyed it.

    Every cloud and all that, live and let live and whatever other cliche you want to throw at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Alfred123 wrote: »
    Joe Duffy will be on €1000, 000 p.a bfore we see any real changes

    Won't cost you anything extra unless the licence fee goes up. Last time that happened was a €2 increase 13 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Cilar wrote: »
    2020 has been great.

    Well maybe, but only for those who live in a parallel universe where negativity, uncertainty & worry (about getting the virus) are ok :cool:

    It's been a different year, that's for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Do you accept that we can be sad for global human suffering while also manage to be happy in ourselves? Those positions are not mutually exclusive. If you can't, then covid aside, how do you get through the day? And I'm not being smart, but there is suffering everywhere. If you don't allow yourself to be happy just because others are suffering then when will you be happy?

    And for the avoidance of doubt, I never said I was happy because people died from covid or lost their jobs etc. But I do hope that going forward, employers recognise that WFH can contribute to a better work life balance.

    Im in agreement that you can be happy while acknowledging that you cant change the situation for others.

    You have supported posters who have expressed happiness at others misery. Happiness should never be at someone else's suffering.

    As regards WFH, it is a watershed. WLB- that remains to
    Bb seen though. Different problems.

    That machine can be operational in your home 24 /7 .
    New Rules apply and you need to be rigid.

    It's in everyone's interest to drive it forward.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 35 Eamon_


    RLF71 wrote: »
    Might have been great for you. But not so much for ones who have lost loved ones to it or can only see them through a window during their last days. So continue going about your life with I'm alright Jack attitude.

    Gotta love this holier than thou attitude.

    Fact is everyone is out for themselves!

    Back when Corona was a novelty, people were shamed for going for a walk on a massive beach!! That's because the shamers were happy to stay cooped up inside.

    As summer went on though the selfishness grew more and more.

    "Leave the gyms open, its important for my health"
    "let the pubs open, they've shown they are responsible"
    "let non essential shops open, you're not gonna get corona in them!"

    People are selfish and will always only look out for themselves, don't try and fool people into thinking otherwise. People will only support things when it's not an inconvenience to themselves. Just like the "supporting local!"....people only supporting it because they benefit and feel good about themselves, but let's see them support them when money is running low, see how much they care about supporting them then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Eamon_ wrote: »
    Fact is everyone is out for themselves!
    /QUOTE]

    No, that's not a fact at all.

    There is a bigger picture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    anewme wrote: »
    Im in agreement that you can be happy while acknowledging that you cant change the situation for others.

    You have supported posters who have expressed happiness at others misery. Happiness should never be at someone else's suffering.

    As regards WFH, it is a watershed. WLB- that remains to
    Bb seen though. Different problems.

    That machine can be operational in your home 24 /7 .
    New Rules apply and you need to be rigid.

    It's in everyone's interest to drive it forward.

    I'll take my chances! Though I agree it has its downside. Sure doesn't everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I'll take my chances! Though I agree it has its downside. Sure doesn't everything.

    For me it opens doors now I could have only hoped for in retirement, due to long hours.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    GarIT wrote: »
    Great thing about COVID is you don't have to be creeped out by that weird person who hangs out in your social group and won't leave despite knowing they aren't wanted.

    Maybe I am a little glad that people like that suffered.


    Callous and cold-heated, but at least now we all know where you stand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Callous and cold-heated, but at least now we all know where you stand.

    He's the same one that was on about his friends laughing at overweight exes and girlfriends. I wouldn't even expect anything less from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    He's the same one that was on about his friends laughing at overweight exes and girlfriends. I wouldn't even expect anything less from him.

    And did I say that I would do that? And it wasn't laughing at the women, it was slagging each others taste for having dated a fat person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Cilar wrote: »
    Probably controversial as everybody seems to be cheering the "return to normal", but:

    - Lower traffic & traffic pollution
    - Shops much quieter / less people / more peaceful
    - No airplane noise pollution
    - Less traffic noise pollution
    - Working from home, no commuting, no seeing people you don't really like anyways, less stressful
    - People walking locally instead of taking car
    - Better cycling infrastructure being built
    - Loads of savings from not spending
    People dying and losing their jobs..some people now with lasting health issues?? Yeah ...great.

    Some people lost family members over this and couldn't go to their funerals or be there with them for their last moments.

    Controversial? Its lacking compassion and being unable to see a world beyond one's own bubble of experience.

    I had an easy lockdown ..no one died...doesn't mean most people had it like that.
    People will only support things when it's not an inconvenience to themselves. Just like the "supporting local!"....people only supporting it because they benefit and feel good about themselves, but let's see them support them when money is running low, see how much they care about supporting them then!

    Going broke to support local business is not an inconvenience ..its something you just can't do.

    It doesn't mean people are out for themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭2lazytogetup


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s been shîtè. No positives.

    If you are a green headed and hearted individual maybe you can rock up to somebody who has lost somebody through getting covid and impart the above....over 78,000 of us sick with it, over 2000 died from it.... stress, illness, death, worry, depression, fear en mass...

    It’s not controversial what you posted, it’s wrong though. 2020 wasn’t great, far from it.

    so every year in the last 50 years you could say isnt great. famines in africa, war, billions of people surviving on less than 1dollar a day. AIDs, ebola virus, smallpox, SARS the original.

    Oh wait 78,000 of us got sick. sure feck people in other countries living through the above plight, we only care about ourselves.

    grow up.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's been overall positive for me living in Vietnam.

    I had a bunch of time off work early in the year on half pay and a good break was welcome. It killed my small online business as everyone flocked to Zoom and honestly, I'm okay with that now. I haven't coded in months and am happier for it. No more getting a message and hoping it isn't a client with a problem either.

    Life's been perfectly normal for ages now. No masks or social distancing or anything. Work, meet friends for beers, and hang out with my new girlfriend. That could all change if it seeps into Vietnam badly but it's come back twice now and they've caught it both times so I think it'll be ok here until the vaccine comes about.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    People dying and losing their jobs..some people now with lasting health issues?? Yeah ...great.

    Some people lost family members over this and couldn't go to their funerals or be there with them for their last moments.

    Controversial? Its lacking compassion and being unable to see a world beyond one's own bubble of experience.

    I had an easy lockdown ..no one died...doesn't mean most people had it like that.



    Going broke to support local business is not an inconvenience ..its something you just can't do.

    It doesn't mean people are out for themselves.

    That is your experience, and opinion though. Has PC gone so far that people now feel obliged to tell others how they should feel or how happy/sad they should be?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    That is your experience, and opinion though. Has PC gone so far that people now feel obliged to tell others how they should feel or how happy/sad they should be?
    Don't start that nonsense.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Don't start that nonsense.

    The nonsense started when people started to tell others that they didn’t feel sad enough, or that they shouldn’t be saying they had a good year. Since when have people been obligated to feel the same emotions as others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    The nonsense started when people started to tell others that they didn’t feel sad enough, or that they shouldn’t be saying they had a good year. Since when have people been obligated to feel the same emotions as others?
    Give it a rest please. Stop politicizing everything. Some common sense.

    Im not inserting an emotion chip in you if i say don't laugh at a funeral.

    Not everything is about politics.


  • Posts: 0 Nelson Tiny Specs


    Give it a rest please. Stop politicizing everything. Some common sense.

    Im not inserting an emotion chip in you if i say don't laugh at a funeral.

    Not everything is about politics.

    That’s neither here nor there & it’s not nonsense. It’s matter of fact that some posters here took a direct route down several peoples throats for daring to mention one or two good things that happened this year.

    YES covid is a horrible existence.
    YES 2020 has been a bit toss
    YES people have unfortunately passed away, a lot of people.

    But despite all of that - we can still look at the good things.

    For me, the year wasn’t a total write off.

    - I’ve managed to thankfully stave away covid so far
    - no one I know has been ill with it/died from it (touch Wood)
    - I moved into my new, permanent house. No more renting!

    Yet despite those small highlights, if some people are anything to go off, I’m not allowed be happy about them. And if I do choose to be happy in any part of my life, I lack empathy & according to one post in particular my opinion doesn’t matter at that point.


    Now, can we ALL just grow up a bit & stop telling people how to feel?

    You have empathy? Fab!
    You don’t have empathy? Fair enough!

    You’re not changing peoples opinions by going after them for how they feel, you just look like a doofus.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Give it a rest please. Stop politicizing everything. Some common sense.

    Im not inserting an emotion chip in you if i say don't laugh at a funeral.

    Not everything is about politics.

    Would you go around telling people at the funeral how sad they should be?

    It is not politics, it is political correctness gone awry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Would you go around telling people at the funeral how sad they should be?

    It is not politics, it is political correctness gone awry.


    No. For the same reason i wouldn't laugh at one. Manners.

    Stop politicizing covid. Stop linking EVERYTHING to a political theory.

    Hey don't laugh at my mother's funeral is not a political theory.

    In fact i think you would find a lot of right wingers would feel even more strongly about it.
    I have always believed in the idea that right wingers are very decent people with a concern for human decency and despite the current climate i still hold that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    That’s neither here nor there & it’s not nonsense. It’s matter of fact that some posters here took a direct route down several peoples throats for daring to mention one or two good things that happened this year.

    YES covid is a horrible existence.
    YES 2020 has been a bit toss
    YES people have unfortunately passed away, a lot of people.

    But despite all of that - we can still look at the good things.

    For me, the year wasn’t a total write off.

    - I’ve managed to thankfully stave away covid so far
    - no one I know has been ill with it/died from it (touch Wood)
    - I moved into my new, permanent house. No more renting!

    Yet despite those small highlights, if some people are anything to go off, I’m not allowed be happy about them. And if I do choose to be happy in any part of my life, I lack empathy & according to one post in particular my opinion doesn’t matter at that point.


    Now, can we ALL just grow up a bit & stop telling people how to feel?

    You have empathy? Fab!
    You don’t have empathy? Fair enough!

    You’re not changing peoples opinions by going after them for how they feel, you just look like a doofus.

    Don't forget there has also been some pretty nasty name calling, referring to posters as cúnts, nazis etc. Pretty horrible stuff but there you go. Some people just never learned to play nice.

    I personally pointed out where I had experienced difficulty this year with a first time pregnancy and birth, without my parents close by and them not being able to meet their first grandchild and all I got was "you need support? Sure years ago women had six kids with no support". When I tried to point out that we can be sad for global issues while still being happy in our own selves, I was told I was full of shít and self-centred. So, while empathy is being peddled and lauded here, it seems that it's application is quite selective! :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No. For the same reason i wouldn't laugh at one. Manners.

    Stop politicizing covid. Stop linking EVERYTHING to a political theory.

    Hey don't laugh at my mother's funeral is not a political theory.

    You may have to accept that not everyone feels the way you do, and it is wrong for you to think they have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    You may have to accept that not everyone feels the way you do, and it is wrong for you to think they have to.
    I know not everyone feels as I do.

    That is why we fake it.

    When i go to your mother's funeral ...i fake it. Because i don't feel as you do. But i want you to think i do. To help you feel less alone.

    .

    I am not asking them to feel it. I am asking them to fake it.

    As i said i had a much easier 2020 than most people.

    The idea that this is a leftest thing only ....is really insulting to right wing people....many of whom have been there for ME at such times ..when i am sure their feelings didn't match mine ..and they would much rather be off doing their own thing rather than comforting me.

    I take offense at you calling it a purely PC thing its not ..its a right wing thing too...that is if the phrase taking offense is allowed now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    I know not everyone feels as I do.

    That is why we fake it.

    When i go to your mother's funeral ...i fake it. Because i don't feel as you do. But i want you to think i do. To help you feel less alone.

    .

    I am not asking them to feel it. I am asking them to fake it.

    As i said i had a much easier 2020 than most people.

    The idea that this is a leftest thing only ....is really insulting to right wing people....many of whom have been there for ME at such times ..when i am sure their feelings didn't match mine ..and they would much rather be off doing their own thing rather than comforting me.

    Jesus christ but that's taking shìt talk to another level :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    I know not everyone feels as I do.

    That is why we fake it.

    When i go to your mother's funeral ...i fake it. Because i don't feel as you do. But i want you to think i do. To help you feel less alone.

    .

    I am not asking them to feel it. I am asking them to fake it.

    As i said i had a much easier 2020 than most people.

    The idea that this is a leftest thing only ....is really insulting to right wing people....many of whom have been there for ME at such times ..when i am sure their feelings didn't match mine ..and they would much rather be off doing their own thing rather than comforting me.

    Does that mean we aren't allowed to say out loud that we, personally, have experienced positives in 2020? 2020 was the best year of my life so far because I met my daughter. Why would I pretend that isn't the case? Should I fake being miserable because she was born in 2020?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Jesus christ but that's taking shìt talk to another level :pac:
    Hello you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does that mean we aren't allowed to say out loud that we, personally, have experienced positives in 2020? 2020 was the best year of my life so far because I met my daughter. Why would I pretend that isn't the case? Should I fake being miserable because she was born in 2020?
    Of course not!

    Congrats! :)

    Im delighted for you.


    But now be honest. You wouldn't laugh at a funeral any more than i would come in full mourning to your daughter's christening now would you?

    Both would be ..rather not the done thing.

    And i hope you have lovely christening for her when the time comes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Of course not!

    Congrats! :)

    Im delighted for you.


    But now be honest. You wouldn't laugh at a funeral any more than i would come in full mourning to your daughter's christening now would you?

    Both would be ..rather not the done thing.

    And i hope you have lovely christening for her when the time comes.

    I'm an atheist so my daughter won't be baptised. You shouldn't assume these things.

    Why the fixation on funerals? Nobody in their right mind would laugh at a funeral. The issue arose because posters were being told off for expressing online that they have had positives in 2020. That isn't laughing at a funeral.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know not everyone feels as I do.

    That is why we fake it.

    When i go to your mother's funeral ...i fake it. Because i don't feel as you do. But i want you to think i do. To help you feel less alone.

    .

    I am not asking them to feel it. I am asking them to fake it.

    As i said i had a much easier 2020 than most people.

    The idea that this is a leftest thing only ....is really insulting to right wing people....many of whom have been there for ME at such times ..when i am sure their feelings didn't match mine ..and they would much rather be off doing their own thing rather than comforting me.

    I take offense at you calling it a purely PC thing its not ..its a right wing thing too...that is if the phrase taking offense is allowed now?

    It the risk of labouring the analogy, for a considerable number of people there has been no “funeral”, they have not been negatively impacted nor do they have anyone close to them that have. You can’t go walking up to a random person on the street and say “ Do you not realise I’m sad, you should be too”.

    Other people are not obligated to share your sadness, though they may elect to do so. I think it is an extreme form of arrogance and political correctness that one person tries to dictate another persons emotional response, and then chastises them if they don’t agree.


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