The UK COVID variant

twinytwo

Valhallapt wrote: »

Time to stop flights. It won’t stop everyone travelling, but it’ll easy reduce the amount of new strain virus entering the country, and that will leave us better prepared to stop it spreading

Wont ever happen, Martin couldn't make a decision if his life depended on it

ZX7R

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

It wasn't in the UK in April. It's September.

So maybe not so sensible.

The first recorded case in the uk is in September.
The strain itself has been in existence since April.

Call me Al

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Stop asking sensible questions.

One of the slides yesterday at the SAGE press conference showed that this variant occurred in the UK in September. Not March.
So no, it's not a sensible question.

Atlantic Dawn

Call me Al wrote: »

One of the slides yesterday at the SAGE press conference showed that this variant occurred in the UK in September. Not March.
So no, it's not a sensible question.

Well September then, also known as 3 months ago.

Call me Al

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Well September then, also known as 3 months ago.

Exactly. 3 months is all it has taken to become the dominant strain running through the UK.

Hence their 534 reported deaths yesterday.

ZX7R

Call me Al wrote: »

Exactly. 3 months is all it has taken to become the dominant strain running through the UK.

Hence their 534 reported deaths yesterday.

So the 534 deaths yesterday are linked directly to the different variant.
Can you back that claim up

Kermit.de.frog

Germany considering a ban. France to make decision on air travel and trains later today.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1340620100060278789

I take it the Common Travel Area will be just too sacrosanct for us as usual.

Call me Al

ZX7R wrote: »

So the 534 deaths yesterday are linked directly to the different variant.
Can you back that claim up

I'm not going to waste my time arguing nonsense with anyone.
Maybe take a look at the sage press conference from yesterday.

Kermit.de.frog

Italy...(and Israel)

https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1340639629188411393

Sir Oxman

Ireland need to ban those flights/ferries now.

ZX7R

Call me Al wrote: »

I'm not going to waste my time arguing nonsense with anyone.
Maybe take a look at the sage press conference from yesterday.

I did watch it Al
And nowhere do they directly link all the deaths to the new variant.
If you want to look at a country
In relation to the new variant look at south Africa where it is more widespread than the uk there death rate with the new variant is no worse than the rate of deaths before it was recorded

Storm 10

Irish government to make a statement today on travel to the UK

GarIT

ZX7R wrote: »

I did watch it Al
And nowhere do they directly link all the deaths to the new variant.
If you want to look at a country
In relation to the new variant look at south Africa where it is more widespread than the uk there death rate with the new variant is no worse than the rate of deaths before it was recorded

But more people catch it.

j4vier

Storm 10 wrote: »

Irish government to make a statement today on travel to the UK

What's interesting is that the Irish government always acts after everyone else has acted.

They shouldn't have to wait to see Europe's response to decide what is best to do to protect Ireland

xhomelezz

j4vier wrote: »

What's interesting is that the Irish government always acts after everyone else has acted.

They shouldn't have to wait to see Europe's response to decide what is best to do to protect Ireland

I have a funny feeling we'll just get another advice, nothing more will be done.

Kermit.de.frog

Donnelly says north will be working more closely this time. I suspect a flight ban possible.

Valhallapt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just fcuking bribe arlene foster and get stormont on.board....whatever it costs,will be a fraction of what another lockdown will be

Even if Dublin flights were cancelled and Belfast was left open this would still reduce the amount of virus coming in.

We should say we can’t stop flights because of Belfast ... don’t make good the enemy of perfect

Sir Oxman

Deleted User wrote: »

Just fcuking bribe arlene foster and get stormont on.board....whatever it costs,will be a fraction of what another lockdown will be

When I say Ireland, I mean the whole of Ireland

drunkmonkey

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Donnelly says north will be working more closely this time. I suspect a flight ban possible.

Headline says strong advice, secret code for do nothing. It's a bit too late anyway, most people I know came last week.

secondrowgal

ZX7R wrote: »

I did watch it Al
And nowhere do they directly link all the deaths to the new variant.
If you want to look at a country
In relation to the new variant look at south Africa where it is more widespread than the uk there death rate with the new variant is no worse than the rate of deaths before it was recorded

It's not the same variant according to this SA doctor.

https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1340359989395861506

Kermit.de.frog

At what point does the north fail (and they have failed) that we put up barriers to travel there?

You can be the biggest United Irelander going but there must come a point where you say enough.

Surely this is not a case we can't do anything with Britain because of the north.

MadYaker

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

At what point does the north fail (and they have failed) that we put up barriers to travel there?

You can be the biggest United Irelander going but there must come a point where you say enough.

Surely this is not a case we can't do anything with Britain because of the north.

We won't going there. We'll ban flights and that'll be it. There's international agreements that guarantee unhindered cross border travel.

ZX7R

secondrowgal wrote: »

It's not the same variant according to this SA doctor.

https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1340359989395861506

The verdict is still out on this.

GarIT

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Headline says strong advice, secret code for do nothing. It's a bit too late anyway, most people I know came last week.

Can give them 12 hours to be out of the country or not let them leave after that.

Cancel flights until march from midnight tonight.

screamer

Best thing the EU could do is get the ****ing vaccines going. The only way to stop mutations in this COVID crap is to cut the hosts available for it to replicate and mutate in. I don’t understand why the delay, UK and US already vaccinating and EU counting it’s fingers as usual.

is_that_so

screamer wrote: »

Best thing the EU could do is get the ****ing vaccines going. The only way to stop mutations in this COVID crap is to cut the hosts available for it to replicate and mutate in. I don’t understand why the delay, UK and US already vaccinating and EU counting it’s fingers as usual.

D-E-C-I-S-I-O-N T-O-M-O-R-R-O-W!

GarIT

screamer wrote: »

Best thing the EU could do is get the ****ing vaccines going. The only way to stop mutations in this COVID crap is to cut the hosts available for it to replicate and mutate in. I don’t understand why the delay, UK and US already vaccinating and EU counting it’s fingers as usual.

Because the UK cut corners not sure about the UK but I'd guess the same. We will have the vaccine in a week or so.

beggars_bush

This government really doesn't like sundays

I'm sure there's a provision in the common travel area treaty to allow for suspension of frew travel due to public health concerns

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1340664845931311105

igCorcaigh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is thousands of people what cross the border everyday to work,many in essential jobs in dublin,no mind the rest of border counties

What do we do with these

Scotland and Wales have closed their borders I think?
Is that situation comparable?