The UK COVID variant

WoollyRedHat · 20-12-2020 4:43pm

No rush lads, take your time about deciding on whether to curtail flights out of UK arriving here, sleep on it maybe?

gmisk · 20-12-2020 4:43pm

GarIT wrote: »

We can stop them for the Christmas and survive. almost all essential workers aren't essential anyway, builders are considered essential, they can take two weeks off.

For "the Christmas" what time period does that cover?
Nurse, doctors etc not essential?

GarIT · 20-12-2020 4:43pm

faceman wrote: »

We already know from multiple studies done on travel and the virus that travel bans only delay spread by a few weeks so a travel ban of a couple of days will mean feck all beyond a PR exercise.

Of course if mandatory testing and enforcement was in place a travel ban wouldn’t need to be considered.

Although on the flip side, if a ban is put in place is this the first time in the history of the state that we can say “Brits Out!” And actually mean it?

(Sorry)

We're heading into the time with the most transmissions, something we haven't experienced anything like before. And we're a few weeks away from the vaccine, so a few week delay is perfect.

theguzman · 20-12-2020 4:47pm

GarIT wrote: »

We're heading into the time with the most transmissions, something we haven't experienced anything like before. And we're a few weeks away from the vaccine, so a few week delay is perfect.

Scientists predict the next mutation will take the deathrate above 90%, we are facing the collapse of Civilisation if this occurs which now only a matter of weeks.

gmisk · 20-12-2020 4:48pm

theguzman wrote: »

Scientists predict the next mutation will take the deathrate above 90%, we are facing the collapse of Civilisation if this occurs which now only a matter of weeks.

Where are you seeing that?
I don't see anyone predicting covid is going to turn into ebola...

jam_mac_jam · 20-12-2020 4:51pm

Does everyone think that there are loads of empty flights between London and Belfast at the moment a few days before Christmas.

Obviously if you stop flights from England a lot less people will come over.

GarIT · 20-12-2020 4:52pm

gmisk wrote: »

For "the Christmas" what time period does that cover?
Nurse, doctors etc not essential?

Most other countries are saying until the 1st or the 6th. An exception could be made for healthcare staff. We could possibly survive without them, I don't know the number of healthcare staff working cross border.

nacho libre · 20-12-2020 4:52pm

gmisk wrote: »

Where are you seeing that?
I don't see anyone predicting covid is going to turn into ebola...

gmisk wrote: »

Where are you seeing that?

He did not see it anywhere.

It's his way of saying this has all been overblown.

I wonder will some folks link an EU travel ban to Brexit?

SeaFields · 20-12-2020 4:53pm

48 hours restrictions. Seriously?? Have some fcuking balls and make a proper decision lads.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-12-2020 4:54pm

SeaFields wrote: »

48 hours restrictions. Seriously?? Have some fcuking balls and make a proper decision lads.

It's 48 hours until a cabinet meeting to extend it.

bush · 20-12-2020 4:57pm

gmisk wrote: »

Where are you seeing that?
I don't see anyone predicting covid is going to turn into ebola...

I think he just made it up.

igCorcaigh · 20-12-2020 5:02pm

SeaFields wrote: »

48 hours restrictions. Seriously?? Have some fcuking balls and make a proper decision lads.

Only until they can meet and extend.

theguzman · 20-12-2020 5:02pm

bush wrote: »

I think he just made it up.

https://scitechdaily.com/its-evolving-coronavirus-genetic-mutation-may-have-made-covid-19-more-contagious/

igCorcaigh · 20-12-2020 5:02pm

bush wrote: »

I think he just made it up.

He's our new Paddy, just not as funny.

gmisk · 20-12-2020 5:05pm

theguzman wrote: »

https://scitechdaily.com/its-evolving-coronavirus-genetic-mutation-may-have-made-covid-19-more-contagious/

It's doesn't say anything in there about covid 19 mutating to become 90 percent fatal....can you paste it here?

All I can see is the below.
"The good news is that this mutation is rare and does not appear to make the disease more severe for infected patients. "

igCorcaigh · 20-12-2020 5:06pm

So, this variant has also been detected in Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark.
(Sky News)

I wonder how much of the big second wave in Europe is due to this?

stephenjmcd · 20-12-2020 5:07pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

So, this variant has also been detected in Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark.
(Sky News)

As has been stated previously its not new to the UK and nowhere else has seen this 70% increase in transmission.

Personally I put it down to London and the South East being out of lockdown long before any other part of the UK, more people moving around, more in pubs etc. More information still required to be independently verified

theguzman · 20-12-2020 5:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

All joking aside....the 3rd wave of the spanish flu was said to be, by far the deadlist

As this will be too, if as expected the new mutations (of which there are multiple) will see the new vaccines be ineffective against them then 2021 will see the world enter its darkest hour since the dark ages.

Mrs OBumble · 20-12-2020 5:10pm

GarIT wrote: »

The reason COVID-19 is dangerous is because it is highly contagious, not because of lethality. Some report said this strain could be up to 70% more contagious.

If it's highly contagious, how come there are so many situations where close contacts don't get it? I personally know of kids sharing bedroom with a sibling, adult bed-sharing couples, and a ice-cream sharing granny. In each one, a person got it, multiple others didn't.

JeffKenna · 20-12-2020 5:11pm

theguzman wrote: »

Scientists predict the next mutation will take the deathrate above 90%, we are facing the collapse of Civilisation if this occurs which now only a matter of weeks.

I'm glad I went out last night if civilisation is collapsing in a few weeks. Make the most of the time we've left.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-12-2020 5:11pm

theguzman wrote: »

As this will be too, if as expected the new mutations (of which there are multiple) will see the new vaccines be ineffective against them then 2021 will see the world enter its darkest hour since the dark ages.

A nice cheery ending

GarIT · 20-12-2020 5:12pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If it's highly contagious, how come there are so many situations where close contacts don't get it? I personally know of kids sharing bedroom with a sibling, adult bed-sharing couples, and a ice-cream sharing granny. In each one, a person got it, multiple others didn't.

No idea why they didn't get it but other viruses are less contagious, they might not have gotten something else either.

theguzman · 20-12-2020 5:14pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If it's highly contagious, how come there are so many situations where close contacts don't get it? I personally know of kids sharing bedroom with a sibling, adult bed-sharing couples, and a ice-cream sharing granny. In each one, a person got it, multiple others didn't.

I spent 3hrs sitting next to a Covid positive person last month on a plane, I never contracted it, I cannot explain why other than my own immune resistance due to having had the virus previously (untested) in March.

GarIT · 20-12-2020 5:18pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jesus...really?

No

There are at least 3 vaccines targeting different aspects of the virus, in the worst case scenario you might need to take more than one of them. We can also make new variations of the vaccine quickly.

Necro · 20-12-2020 5:20pm

theguzman wrote: »

As this will be too, if as expected the new mutations (of which there are multiple) will see the new vaccines be ineffective against them then 2021 will see the world enter its darkest hour since the dark ages.

Mod:

Don't post in this thread again please seeing as you want to troll

Kermit.de.frog · 20-12-2020 5:30pm

Germany from midnight...

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340693704621907969

CrabRevolution · 20-12-2020 5:30pm

I'd be curious to see Michael Gove's take on this new variant, considering he was demanding that China pay the UK billions as a result of being the source of the original virus.

SortingYouOut · 20-12-2020 5:32pm

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I'd be curious to see Michael Gove's take on this new variant, considering he was demanding that China pay the UK billions as a result of being the source of the original virus.

Well the UK didn't cause the new variant, nature did.

cmac2009 · 20-12-2020 5:34pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Germany from midnight...

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340693704621907969

For all these countries, are they banning inbound and outbound flights?

Kermit.de.frog · 20-12-2020 5:50pm

Appears to be both inbound and outbound. Netherlands, Italy and Belgium are both.

However, it appears the continent will be acting together soon

https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/1340679106384588800

The UK COVID variant

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