The UK COVID variant

CrabRevolution

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Well the UK didn't cause the new variant, nature did.

The same could be said of China.

TheValeyard

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Well the UK didn't cause the new variant, nature did.

I'm telling ya now, Daily Mail or the Express will find a way to blame it on immigrants or the EU

SortingYouOut

CrabRevolution wrote: »

The same could be said of China.

Well not really. Nature did it's thing but the conditions for it to happen were allowed happen because of China. Plus the cover up at the beginning which delayed the global response. Can't be compared to the UK now. It could have happened anywhere.

Necro

TheValeyard wrote: »

I'm telling ya now, Daily Mail or the Express will find a way to blame it on immigrants or the EU

Aye, the usual rhetoric from those two rags will spin it that way, absolutely no doubt about it.

faceman

theguzman wrote: »

As this will be too, if as expected the new mutations (of which there are multiple) will see the new vaccines be ineffective against them then 2021 will see the world enter its darkest hour since the dark ages.

Jaysus is this the Daily Mail?

For many viruses that mutate and become more contagious, they become less severe as a result

Of course the media or government won’t share that because it goes against the narrative

Get Real

Is the new variant technically covid-20. A new strain of same virus, discovered in year 2020? Or am I wrong on that?

ancapailldorcha

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I'd be curious to see Michael Gove's take on this new variant, considering he was demanding that China pay the UK billions as a result of being the source of the original virus.

Thanks to Michael Gove and others like him, the UK is about to become little more than a petty nuisance to the Chinese.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Get Real wrote: »

Is the new variant technically covid-20. A new strain of same virus, discovered in year 2020? Or am I wrong on that?

It needs to be sufficiently distinct to get a new name. I believe this is more a mutation which is less distinct.

faceman

Get Real wrote: »

Is the new variant technically covid-20. A new strain of same virus, discovered in year 2020? Or am I wrong on that?

The virus has evolved numerous times since March. Most of the time it’s an insignificant impact

SEPT 23 1989

Just watched the BBC news there

They are in terrible trouble

schmoo2k

j4vier wrote: »

What's interesting is that the Irish government always acts after everyone else has acted.

They shouldn't have to wait to see Europe's response to decide what is best to do to protect Ireland

I thought our pre Christmas lockdown was ahead of the rest of the EU?

faceman

Hmmmm. Something is amiss in the UK with this supposed new strain. See the linked study below

No evidence for increased transmissibility from recurrent mutations in SARS-CoV-2

gmisk

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Just watched the BBC news there

They are in terrible trouble

The BBC? Or the UKs coronavirus response....both probably true...

Blondini

Only a matter of time before .... actually scrap that, it's probably already here.

johnboy1298

Sure just give everyone who travels a substantial meal and tell them to get there before 10pm. Everyone knows thats how you stop the virus, cancelling travel now is about 9 months late anyway :rolleyes:

Darc19

I see sinn fein don't want any flights banned and think we should trust everyone to isolate and answer contact tracing.

How fucin STUPID can you get. No wonder northern Ireland is riddled when you have this type of thinking.

Thank God those fucwits are not in power here.

Calypso Realm

j4vier wrote: »

What's interesting is that the Irish government always acts after everyone else has acted.

They shouldn't have to wait to see Europe's response to decide what is best to do to protect Ireland

Not strictly true. For instance, Ireland locked down earlier than UK, enabling it have a much better handle on things. In contrast UK waited far too long, despite soaring numbers, adopting instead a (rather ridiculous) 'herd' immunity' policy, which only resulted in an alarming number of deaths.

amacca

Is there any verified/trustworthy data available on the new strain?

schmoo2k

amacca wrote: »

Is there any verified/trustworthy data available on the new strain?

Dr. John Campbell Summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINIibH2Iaw

DaSilva

Here is the best actual information I can find on it:

https://virological.org/t/preliminary-genomic-characterisation-of-an-emergent-sars-cov-2-lineage-in-the-uk-defined-by-a-novel-set-of-spike-mutations/563

https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896

Harry Palmr

I wish gubberment leaders would stop sounding so wishy washy and circumspect. Ryan had to be cajoled
by the newsreader just then!

Kermit.de.frog

France going a step further

https://twitter.com/AIMAberdeen/status/1340735710677135365

Inquitus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France going a step further

https://twitter.com/AIMAberdeen/status/1340735710677135365

That's going to create one helluva mess even if just for 48 hours.

SouthWesterly

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France going a step further

https://twitter.com/AIMAberdeen/status/1340735710677135365

Looks like brexit is happening earlier than expected.

The HorsesMouth

Anyone else think this has back fired completely on UK? Maybe they thought this strain was a good excuse to lockdown harder without having to justify why. They probably never thought all these restrictions would actually happen. Just a thought..

DaSilva

DaSilva wrote: »

Here is the best actual information I can find on it:

https://virological.org/t/preliminary-genomic-characterisation-of-an-emergent-sars-cov-2-lineage-in-the-uk-defined-by-a-novel-set-of-spike-mutations/563

https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896

Potential to raise the Ro number by 0.4 to 0.93 even in locked down communities with higher viral loads on top


Some evidence of re-infection aswell



A fair sting in tail to 2020,hopefully we can begin vaccinations before xmas now

patsman07

It's hard to see how this hasn't spread to ourselves and to mainland Europe already. Unfortunately, I would put money on a nationwide level 5 lockdown in January due to the increased infectiousness of this strain. Relatively, we were doing well. It's such a pity.

Harpon

patsman07 wrote: »

It's hard to see how this hasn't spread to ourselves and to mainland Europe already. Unfortunately, I would put money on a nationwide level 5 lockdown in January due to the increased infectiousness of this strain. Relatively, we were doing well. It's such a pity.

Our cases have doubled in the last week, it’s definitely here. Zero point in having level 5 lockdown again as it didn’t work last time, need to do something different this time.

NIMAN

Unless its a proper level 5, like back in March.

Schools, construction, all unnecessary retail closed.

Might work?

Time to bulk buy the bog roll?

GarIT

Harpon wrote: »

Our cases have doubled in the last week, it’s definitely here. Zero point in having level 5 lockdown again as it didn’t work last time, need to do something different this time.

It did work. Yes we could be stricter in future.