Strange experience with drugs/anyone else??

Wildkid

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone ,if i take pain killers for an injury etc I get a good buzz off them with no issues etc so here’s the strange thing .......whenever I try cocaine ,ecstasy ,ketamine etc etc I get like an instant expedience of really really bad depression like I feel really depressed ,it’s not a come down it’s as soon as the drugs kick in the exact opposite of what the Drugs are meant to do actually Happens ....it’s so strange because Iv no problem with alcohol or mental health etc it’s actually funny looking at it after the depression ends like what the **** is that all about ? Anyone else experience this ? The drugs in taken over the years (rarely ) have been with different friends etc so it’s not like I just got a bad batch one night it’s a consistent thing over time , Il prob never touch them again because it’s such a horrible experience but I’d still like to know why it Happens to me and no one else

simongurnick

Wildkid wrote: »

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone ,if i take pain killers for an injury etc I get a good buzz off them with no issues etc so here’s the strange thing .......whenever I try cocaine ,ecstasy ,ketamine etc etc I get like an instant expedience of really really bad depression like I feel really depressed ,it’s not a come down it’s as soon as the drugs kick in the exact opposite of what the Drugs are meant to do actually Happens ....it’s so strange because Iv no problem with alcohol or mental health etc it’s actually funny looking at it after the depression ends like what the **** is that all about ? Anyone else experience this ? The drugs in taken over the years (rarely ) have been with different friends etc so it’s not like I just got a bad batch one night it’s a consistent thing over time , Il prob never touch them again because it’s such a horrible experience but I’d still like to know why it Happens to me and no one else

Very weird. Especially with stimulants. Avoid all drugs dude

jmlad2020

Wildkid wrote: »

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone ,if i take pain killers for an injury etc I get a good buzz off them with no issues etc so here’s the strange thing .......whenever I try cocaine ,ecstasy ,ketamine etc etc I get like an instant expedience of really really bad depression like I feel really depressed ,it’s not a come down it’s as soon as the drugs kick in the exact opposite of what the Drugs are meant to do actually Happens ....it’s so strange because Iv no problem with alcohol or mental health etc it’s actually funny looking at it after the depression ends like what the **** is that all about ? Anyone else experience this ? The drugs in taken over the years (rarely ) have been with different friends etc so it’s not like I just got a bad batch one night it’s a consistent thing over time , Il prob never touch them again because it’s such a horrible experience but I’d still like to know why it Happens to me and no one else

Are you taking any medication etc? Are you an otherwise healthy individual that does a lot of exercise and eats well?

Wildkid

jmlad2020 wrote: »

Are you taking any medication etc? Are you an otherwise healthy individual that does a lot of exercise and eats well?

No medication whatsoever ,yes I play sports and am healthy ,in my mid 30s

Jmccoy1

As Mr. Garrison says "Drugs are baad". Use your brain and stay away from the drugs, they don't do anyone any good.

85603

different drugs, different people, at different times, will probably result in different effects.

what i mean is if you go to a doctor for a symptom of some kind (migraine, or whatever) then that doctor will carefully assess you as an individual based on weight, age, gender, etc.

im sure you know the process. from there its to a pharmacist who will have carefully measured doses. the net result is you get something planned/foreseen.

illicit drugs follow the same natural rules of cause and effect as the legally prescribed drugs.

its just that in the case of using a doctor and a pharmacist the prescription (the cause) is very specifically planned. and so you get what they planned.

whereas for the dealer the cause/the deal is just one size fits all. so you get a random result.
theres no planning. you might be the type who gets a great buzz. or you may be the type that it kills. or anything in between.

tl;dr you took a random chemical, you got random results.

simongurnick

85603 wrote: »

different drugs, different people, at different times, will probably result in different effects.

what i mean is if you go to a doctor for a symptom of some kind (migraine, or whatever) then that doctor will carefully assess you as an individual based on weight, age, gender, etc.

im sure you know the process. from there its to a pharmacist who will have carefully measured doses. the net result is you get something planned/foreseen.

illicit drugs follow the same natural rules of cause and effect as the legally prescribed drugs.

its just that in the case of using a doctor and a pharmacist the prescription (the cause) is very specifically planned. and so you get what they planned.

whereas for the dealer the cause/the deal is just one size fits all. so you get a random result.
theres no planning. you might be the type who gets a great buzz. or you may be the type that it kills. or anything in between.

tl;dr you took a random chemical, you got random results.

This isn't really true. Yes, illicit drugs have all types of everything in it, but essentially drugs are either uppers or downers. And downer doesn't mean being depressed. If the OP is feeling depressed no matter what the drug, that is abnormal. So my advice is avoid all drugs.

km991148

Maybe anxiety about taking them is hitting you harder than you think?
Subconsciously you don't want to take them and are tense?
Ask your gp next time you are in?

the_syco

simongurnick wrote: »

If the OP is feeling depressed no matter what the drug, that is abnormal. So my advice is avoid all drugs.

Possibly certain drugs causes a dopamine deficiency in him?

OP; talk to your doctor about this, as you may get a reaction from legal drugs that you get prescribed to you.

ILoveYourVibes

Your body likes opioids ...you would become a heroin addict in a jiffy. Like seeing heroin and you would be gone for life.

Regarding cocaine etc ....you never know what you are getting.

They say that it can damage the part of the brain that allows people to feel pleasure.

I guess with any other drug they would call it a bad trip...for some reason with cocaine they call it overamping. (which is a slang term that means a lot of things to a lot of people ..but its generally just more or less slang for when a speed or cocaine trip goes wrong in anyway ...it can mean it was unpleasurable .it brought you down.or it gave you seizures etc ..it also has nothing to do with the dosage it just refers to a bad experience with those things ..)

Its a really bad sign as over ramping is linked to seizures ..scar tissue on the heart and of course ...heart attacks which are notoriously linked to cocaine . Most people who use it will probably have issues with their heart later on in life ..due to the fibrosis of the heart it causes in like 73% of users.

Most cocaine users have scarring on their heart tissue and don't even realize it. It will affect them later in life.

While an overdose of opioids has clearly defined symptoms related to the suppression of the central nervous system, overamping is any sort of negative experience related to using stimulants such as cocaine or methamphetamine. These experiences are not necessarily dependent on taking too much

you overamped.

Suicidal thoughts etc ....are not uncommon when you overamp. For some people anxiety is the issue ..but people expect that from stimulants they don't expect suicidal thoughts though.

And very few people know that most cocaine users have scarring on their hearts that is permanent.

Its not uncommon ....i would say you felt VERY dark at the time. A lot of people do. Unfortunately dosage of stimulants is less easy to predict than with opioids because it can actually depend very much on your own body chemistry AT THE EXACT TIME ...meaning how much sleep you had ..how much you had to eat ...drastically alters your reaction to stimulants ...i have heard people even say being in a situation they were not comfortable in made it unpleasant ...indicating even your EMOTIONAL state affects the dosage ..whereas opioids are more reliable ..so one day one dosage of cocaine is fine for you...the next ..its awful...depending totally on how you felt that day.

Coffee always works MORE on me when i am nervous. That is as far as i go with drugs. I don't need scar tissue on my heart thanks!

StefanFal

Sounds to me like you might not be taking enough? Try and double drop next time and report back.

ILoveYourVibes

StefanFal wrote: »

Sounds to me like you might not be taking enough? Try and double drop next time and report back.

Agreed! Mix in a naggin and some heroin! :P

US2

You're probably not taking enough of the drugs to get a proper happy high. If you don't like being high, why take them?

igCorcaigh

Could be the social setting?

I used to get bad social anxiety with MDMA.

Lewis_Benson

Wildkid wrote: »

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone ,if i take pain killers for an injury etc I get a good buzz off them with no issues etc so here’s the strange thing .......whenever I try cocaine ,ecstasy ,ketamine etc etc I get like an instant expedience of really really bad depression like I feel really depressed ,it’s not a come down it’s as soon as the drugs kick in the exact opposite of what the Drugs are meant to do actually Happens ....it’s so strange because Iv no problem with alcohol or mental health etc it’s actually funny looking at it after the depression ends like what the **** is that all about ? Anyone else experience this ? The drugs in taken over the years (rarely ) have been with different friends etc so it’s not like I just got a bad batch one night it’s a consistent thing over time , Il prob never touch them again because it’s such a horrible experience but I’d still like to know why it Happens to me and no one else

Ffs, stay off the drugs...

White Clover

Wildkid wrote: »

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone ,if i take pain killers for an injury etc I get a good buzz off them with no issues etc so here’s the strange thing .......whenever I try cocaine ,ecstasy ,ketamine etc etc I get like an instant expedience of really really bad depression like I feel really depressed ,it’s not a come down it’s as soon as the drugs kick in the exact opposite of what the Drugs are meant to do actually Happens ....it’s so strange because Iv no problem with alcohol or mental health etc it’s actually funny looking at it after the depression ends like what the **** is that all about ? Anyone else experience this ? The drugs in taken over the years (rarely ) have been with different friends etc so it’s not like I just got a bad batch one night it’s a consistent thing over time , Il prob never touch them again because it’s such a horrible experience but I’d still like to know why it Happens to me and no one else

If you're emotionally stable, why are you taking drugs?

Wildkid

White Clover wrote: »

If you're emotionally stable, why are you taking drugs?

Sane reason I drink shots on a night out just to get a buzz and enjoy myself ,I very rarely take them ,I did at the weekend ,last time I took turn before that was probably 2 years ago !

Wildkid

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Agreed! Mix in a naggin and some heroin! :P

Il try some heroin next at Least il know for sure then 😂

Wildkid

km991148 wrote: »

Maybe anxiety about taking them is hitting you harder than you think?
Subconsciously you don't want to take them and are tense?
Ask your gp next time you are in?[/quote

You could be onto something with this usually when I Take them it’s more out of curiosity or i treat them like a shot of tequila etc just another thing to get a emotional high off

ILoveYourVibes

Wildkid wrote: »

Il try some heroin next at Least il know for sure then ��

GOOD LUCK!

B.A._Baracus

Stay away from drugs op.
You are not getting the results you want and not to mention you don't know what's in drugs as it is.

A report from the states in 2017 stated coke is usually only 61% pure. While many other powders are used to cut it, washing powder is a popular choice. Best to stay away from all drugs mate. Some local drug dealer is not going to have any issues loading it up with whatever he has to hand.

J Mysterio

Drugs very often amplify your current state/ feelings. So, for example, if you are worried/ anxious you shouldn't take some mushrooms, as you will likely have a ****ty trip.

If I'm a little down, smoking weed can leave me feeling a little more depressed.

It may be that you simply have a subconscious thought process where you expect to have a bad trip, and this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. As with others, I would say you should probably avoid taking drugs to be honest, particularly as you don't seem to have had any good experiences - learn the lesson.

White Clover

White Clover wrote: »

If you're emotionally stable, why are you taking drugs?

Only emotionally stable people should take drugs

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

Only emotionally stable people should take drugs

Is taking drugs usually what emotionally stable people do?

But if only emotionally stable people should take drugs ...?? WAIT WHAT?

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Is taking drugs usually what emotionally stable people do?

But if only emotionally stable people should take drugs ...?? WAIT WHAT?

Pretty straightforward; ideally only those with their life together should get black out drunk. Those that aren't secure might turn it into an addictive escape.

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty straightforward; ideally only those with their life together should get black out drunk.

Why would they want to?

I mean if you have your life together ...that means you don't get black out drunk. Its part of having your life together..not being black out drunk. Black out drunk sort of makes life not together

Oh no wait ...no WAIT

I GET IT !!!

When you have your life together YOU GET black out drunk!

ah get ya

Gregor Samsa

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Your body likes opioids ...you would become a heroin addict in a jiffy. Like seeing heroin and you would be gone for life.

OP didn't mention taking any opioids at all.

ILoveYourVibes

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

OP didn't mention taking any opioids at all.

Yes he did. He mentioned taking painkillers for injuries gave him a high.

These are opioids.

Even prescriptions or over the counter drugs ..are well drugs.

I take solpadeine on my period i get it over the counter...and its an opioid. So is paracetamol tramadol etc.

ohnonotgmail

Wildkid wrote: »

A bit about me ,I rarely take drugs I’d drink maybe once a week but not every week and very very very rarely twice a week ,Iv no mental health problems I’m emotionally very stable ,if I drink I get a great buzz and the next day I experience little bit of fear just like everyone...

is this a normal thing for people? I've never experienced it or heard any mention of it before.

corner of hells

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Yes he did. He mentioned taking painkillers for injuries gave him a high.

These are opioids.

Even prescriptions or over the counter drugs ..are well drugs.

I take solpadeine on my period i get it over the counter...and its an opioid. So is paracetamol tramadol etc.

Paracetamols an opiod ? Since when ?

Padre_Pio

Jmccoy1 wrote: »

As Mr. Garrison says "Drugs are baad". Use your brain and stay away from the drugs, they don't do anyone any good.

Mr. Mackey:pac::pac:

Is it perhaps a subconsious realisation that you're supporting the kind of people who murder teenagers and shoot each other in front of children? The kind of people who'd petrol bomb your parent's house if you owed €100?


But sure it's all a bit of a laugh. "That kinda thing would never happen to me".

km991148

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Why would they want to?

I mean if you have your life together ...that means you don't get black out drunk. Its part of having your life together..not being black out drunk. Black out drunk sort of makes life not together

Oh no wait ...no WAIT

I GET IT !!!

When you have your life together YOU GET black out drunk!

ah get ya

I'd love to get black out drunk right now, but my life is no where near together enough.

Wait.. because I don't want to get black out drunk, I should do it?
Is that it??

Gregor Samsa

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Yes he did. He mentioned taking painkillers for injuries gave him a high.

These are opioids.

Even prescriptions or over the counter drugs ..are well drugs.

I take solpadeine on my period i get it over the counter...and its an opioid. So is paracetamol tramadol etc.

Drugs ≠ opioids

Painkillers ≠ opioids

Paracetamol is not an opioid. The OP said "painkillers" - there's loads of different kinds of painkillers that aren't opioids. Paracetamol, aspirin, ibuprofen, acetaminophen, naproxen, etc. etc. Just because you're taking substances containing opioids doesn't mean the OP is.

85603

simongurnick wrote: »

This isn't really true. Yes, illicit drugs have all types of everything in it, but essentially drugs are either uppers or downers. And downer doesn't mean being depressed. If the OP is feeling depressed no matter what the drug, that is abnormal. So my advice is avoid all drugs.

Actually its entirely true.

Different people react differently to different chemicals. Its the whole reason why doctors will consider gender, weight, age etc.

The rules that doctors and pharmacists use dont suddenly disappear just because a substance is listed as illegal. You're still subject to the rules of pharmacology whether you get your pills in a chemists or from a shady character.

Street drugs are one size fits all. Yet people vary widely.

So how could there ever be a guarantee of how you will respond. There simply isn't.

If you disagree with that then you're simply wrong.

MetzgerMeister

I've only ever done weed and hash and the last time I did it was in 2004. I'm in my mid 30's and I will never again touch the stuff. Main reason being I do not like the way it makes me feel if it's a bad trip and I have no control over it and just have to wait it out. I'd rather just not do it than take a chance.

I very rarely drink either like yourself because drink doesn't agree with my stomach.

As others have said, just stay away from all these chemical concoctions because you have no idea what you're putting into your body.

Airyfairy12

Drugs effect people differently. Ive taken cocaine several times throughout my life, everything from cheap stuff to expensive coke from wealthy coke heads and never got any buzz or high from it, might aswell snort sugar as far as im concerned. Some people live for the high they get from it.
Weed makes me anxious and take panic attacks while it has the total opposite effect on other people, most people smoke it to help with anxiety and to destress.

Everyone is different

White Clover

Wildkid wrote: »

Sane reason I drink shots on a night out just to get a buzz and enjoy myself ,I very rarely take them ,I did at the weekend ,last time I took turn before that was probably 2 years ago !

Apples and oranges. The shots you buy on a night out come from a highly regulated industry unlike the drugs you are taking. Anything from rat poison to all other kinds of nasties are included to "bulk them up" .

gctest50

White Clover wrote: »

Anything from rat poison to all other kinds of nasties are included to "bulk them up" .

Oh no not the rat poison ! It's everywhere -They're mad for it

Look: they now have a drive thru rat poison dealer !

https://irishheart.ie/news/irelands-first-drive-thru-warfarin-clinic-open-for-business/