2021 Last Person Standing January Quiz

duffman13

Green&Red wrote: »

Morning

So I was doing a clear out of an old shed last week and came across a filing cabinet with old bills in it.

I have an ESB bill for October 1978, how much is it for?

1,439 units were used, no mention of what a unit is but I presume its kWh. For reference on my house bill 1 kWh is 17.53c

Also on the bill are a standing charge and "HP instalment No. 15 of 30" so I guess that could be paying for the meter.

HP is probably an appliance from the good old days when the ESB where the big sellers of white goods.

This doesn't help me a jot though:(

Purgative

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Greenie, I really appreciate the work you're putting in to making my questions look normal!

Funny you never realise what the good times were until they're over.

Mollyb60

Did they still use shillings and farthings in 1978? I wasn't born then so I'm not sure about the money situation. :pac::pac::pac:

duffman13

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Did they still use shillings and farthings in 1978? I wasn't born then so I'm not sure about the money situation. :pac::pac::pac:

Eh yeah are we talking punts? I was assuming punts but presuming and this quiz aren't a good combo

Zaph

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Did they still use shillings and farthings in 1978? I wasn't born then so I'm not sure about the money situation. :pac::pac::pac:

We used groats back then. And if you had no cash, some places accepted chickens.

Purgative

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Did they still use shillings and farthings in 1978? I wasn't born then so I'm not sure about the money situation. :pac::pac::pac:

Shilling yes. Farthing no.


Edit no it was after decimalisation so neither

rainbowtrout

Green&Red wrote: »

Morning



Also on the bill are a standing charge and "HP instalment No. 15 of 30" so I guess that could be paying for the meter. [/B]

That's for an appliance bought on credit. ESB used to have shops as such, and you could buy appliances on credit and pay them off over a period of time on the bill. 30 payments, that's a 60 month repayment plan.

How are we supposed to know what the HP payment was for an unknown appliance?

HeidiHeidi

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That's for an appliance bought on credit. ESB used to have shops as such, and you could buy appliances on credit and pay them off over a period of time on the bill. 30 payments, that's a 60 month repayment plan.

How are we supposed to know what the HP payment was for an unknown appliance?

In fairness, I'd say that's the least of your worries with a question like this.

Anyone want to go splits on a random number generator for the rest of this competition?

Green&Red

Kolido wrote: »

In which currency would you like the answer G?

Punts

rainbowtrout

Green&Red wrote: »

Morning

So I was doing a clear out of an old shed last week and came across a filing cabinet with old bills in it.

I have an ESB bill for October 1978, how much is it for?

1,439 units were used, no mention of what a unit is but I presume its kWh. For reference on my house bill 1 kWh is 17.53c

Also on the bill are a standing charge and "HP instalment No. 15 of 30" so I guess that could be paying for the meter.

Is VAT added on to the bill after all the charges?

Posy

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That's for an appliance bought on credit. ESB used to have shops as such, and you could buy appliances on credit and pay them off over a period of time on the bill. 30 payments, that's a 60 month repayment plan.

How are we supposed to know what the HP payment was for an unknown appliance?

Yep, that sounds like an appliance(s) bought on HP from the ESB, which was common enough I think.

I'm just giving a pure guess because I don't care enough to try and work out what the appliance was, if there was more than one and how much household appliances were back in the 1970's. :pac:

Sephiroth_dude

I have a pass but gonna submit an answer anyway, Is it a monthly bill or every two months?

rainbowtrout

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I have a pass but gonna submit an answer anyway, Is it a monthly bill or every two months?

Normally every two months. It shouldn't matter for this as it's charged based on units used.

Sephiroth_dude

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Normally every two months. It shouldn't matter for this as it's charged based on units used.

what about hours per day? is it 24hrs? god I'm so confused , I was just looking at a formula for calculating electricity and my head hurts.

rainbowtrout

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

what about hours per day? is it 24hrs? god I'm so confused , I was just looking at a formula for calculating electricity and my head hurts.

Units are kilowatt hours. If an appliance has a rating of 1kW, then if you used it for an hour it would use 1kW of electricity. It doesn't matter when the electricity is used. Granted there are night savers plans for cheaper rates for night use, but I can't imagine that was around in 1978.

A typical electric shower has a rating of 9kW. Using it for an hour at todays rates of about 18c per unit would cost €1.62 per hour. But we didn't have electric showers in Ireland in 1978 :pac:

Green&Red

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Is VAT added on to the bill after all the charges?

Theres no VAT

Green&Red

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I have a pass but gonna submit an answer anyway, Is it a monthly bill or every two months?

Monthly bill


Just waiting on Baile &Seph

Green&Red

So everyone in, again one person has way overshot the runway, Reberetta this time. £51.24 was the correct answer, 2.55p/kWh and £11.20 for the HP. Hurlingman was the closest and receives a bye tomorrow

Hard luck Reberetta




HeidiHeidi £4.72
Shorty69664 £12.00
Kolido £15.00
Pawwed Rig £16.00
Posy £18.00
Trigger £18.46
Toto Wolfcastle £23.17
Zaph £27.42
Electric Nitwit £34.00
Purgative £35.00
rainbowtrout £35.37
Osh £36.00
wrestlemaniac £37.55
KathleenGrant £42.00
Also Starring LeVar Burton £42.23
Irish Aris £50.00
hurlingman97 £51.50
duffman13 £58.00
BuileBeag £60.52
Clarabel £60.88
Sephiroth_dude £65.50
Loughc £78.12
Mollyb60 £100.00
ShaneU £133.86
Reberetta £200.00

Electric Nitwit

My dodgy maths gave me £40 without the HP which was basically bang on. I didn't trust it and went lower, should always...

Clarabel

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

My dodgy maths gave me £40 without the HP which was basically bang on. I didn't trust it and went lower, should always...

Ummm what maths?

hurlingman97

Class :-)
I was just gonna say 50 then decided I'd go a bit above incase 50 was the lowest and I thought surely someone else would go for it.

Mollyb60

Whew! Cutting it fine there Mol! Must try harder/better tomorrow.

Electric Nitwit

Clarabel wrote: »

Ummm what maths?

1,439 units
Current price 17.53c
1,439 * 17.53 = €250 (ish)
Divide by five, my guess at inflation = €50
Multiply by 0.8 to get it into punts = £40

ShaneU

I hate maths questions, down with this sort of thing.

Jellies in the Jar is what the people want!

Clarabel

ShaneU wrote: »

I hate maths questions, down with this sort of thing.

Jellies in the Jar is what the people want!

I did no maths.

I went my bill is 200. Must be less than that. What's less than 200. Ummm. Punts are about the same.....be grand

I originally submitted 11 but thought, gosh stuff was expensive back then salaries were no.....it was probably more.

Green&Red

Morning

In 1991 Frank Dunlop paid £112,000 in order to get the lands where Liffey Valley Shopping Centre is build rezoned.

This money was paid to bribe Dublin City councillors, how many did it buy him?

Trigger

Green&Red wrote: »

Morning

In 1991 Frank Dunlop paid £112,000 in order to get the lands where Liffey Valley Shopping Centre is build rezoned.

This money was paid to bribe Dublin City councillors, how many did it buy him?

I only read the Mahon Tribunal papers for a course there last year confident here

Edit: reading that last line has thrown me off a bit hmm

How many councillors did it buy? Or how many lands?

Green&Red

Deleted User wrote: »

How many councillors did it buy? Or how many lands?

Councillors

Green&Red

Green&Red wrote: »

Councillors

Thank you!

Green&Red

Just three stragglers this evening


Clarabel
ShaneU
wrestlemaniac

wrestlemaniac

Green&Red wrote: »

Just three stragglers this evening


Clarabel
ShaneU
wrestlemaniac

Answer sent in. Apologies. Crazy day at work!

Electric Nitwit

wrestlemaniac wrote: »

Answer sent in. Apologies. Crazy day at work!

It looked like he was going to be eliminated, but somehow he stays alive...

ShaneU

Green&Red

Exciting day at Last Person Standing Towers, we have three people tied for last

Loughc

Green&Red wrote: »

Exciting day at Last Person Standing Towers, we have three people tied for last

Eliminate all 3 I say (im aware I may be one of these 3 still :P )

Green&Red

So the correct answer was 15, I realised at about 6pm that I should have said that Dunlop claimed he bribed 15 councillors, hes and ex-fianna fail bag man though, friends with Bertie Ahearn, who worked for land developers so we can take his word right? RIGHT??
I decided that ye all had the same info and let it roll

So Molly, LoughC and Trigger are all at the bottom. I've given LoughC his wish and f**ked them all out

Kathleen takes tomorrow's pass


KathleenGrant 14
Posy 13
Also Starring LeVar Burton 12
Kolido 12
Sephiroth_dude 12
BuileBeag 11
Electric Nitwit 11
wrestlemaniac 11
HeidiHeidi 10
Clarabel 9
Osh 8
Irish Aris 7
Purgative 7
duffman13 7
Toto Wolfcastle 7
ShaneU 7
hurlingman97 6
Pawwed Rig 6
Zaph 6
rainbowtrout 5
Shorty69664 5
Loughc 4
Mollyb60 4
Trigger 4

Loughc

Loughc wrote: »

Eliminate all 3 I say (im aware I may be one of these 3 still :P )

Well this back fired :pac:

Green&Red

Only joking obvs, they all roll onto tomorrow for a super bonus knockout round

ShaneU

Loughc wrote: »

Eliminate all 3 I say (im aware I may be one of these 3 still :P )

Electric Nitwit

Green&Red wrote: »

Only joking obvs, they all roll onto tomorrow for a super bonus knockout round

Booooo......!

Trigger

Green&Red wrote: »

So the correct answer was 15, I realised at about 6pm that I should have said that Dunlop claimed he bribed 15 councillors, hes and ex-fianna fail bag man though, friends with Bertie Ahearn, who worked for land developers so we can take his word right? RIGHT??
I decided that ye all had the same info and let it roll

So Molly, LoughC and Trigger are all at the bottom. I've given LoughC his wish and f**ked them all out

Kathleen takes tomorrow's pass


KathleenGrant 14
Posy 13
Also Starring LeVar Burton 12
Kolido 12
Sephiroth_dude 12
BuileBeag 11
Electric Nitwit 11
wrestlemaniac 11
HeidiHeidi 10
Clarabel 9
Osh 8
Irish Aris 7
Purgative 7
duffman13 7
Toto Wolfcastle 7
ShaneU 7
hurlingman97 6
Pawwed Rig 6
Zaph 6
rainbowtrout 5
Shorty69664 5
Loughc 4
Mollyb60 4
Trigger 4

I've mixed it up with the Carrickmines rezoning haven't I :pac:

Electric Nitwit

Green&Red wrote: »

So the correct answer was 15, I realised at about 6pm that I should have said that Dunlop claimed he bribed 15 councillors...

Quiz aside for a moment, that's really shocking

Trigger

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Quiz aside for a moment, that's really shocking

There was another 4 Councillors charged with accepting bribes in another rezoning, which i think I've got mixed up (Carrickmines) The Mahon (previously Flood) Tribunal details most of it in their papers, its a shocking read tbf

Declan A Walsh

Trigger wrote: »

There was another 4 Councillors charged with accepting bribes in another rezoning, which i think I've got mixed up (Carrickmines) The Mahon (previously Flood) Tribunal details most of it in their papers, its a shocking read tbf

One of them was a son of a former Taoiseach, no less!

Green&Red

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Quiz aside for a moment, that's really shocking

More shocking that they were bought for £8k each!

I wouldn't get outta bed for £8k

rainbowtrout

Trigger wrote: »

There was another 4 Councillors charged with accepting bribes in another rezoning, which i think I've got mixed up (Carrickmines) The Mahon (previously Flood) Tribunal details most of it in their papers, its a shocking read tbf

I mixed up the tribunals too.... I'd imagine there isn't a major site in Dublin that hasn't had some shady dealings going on at some level.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/day-of-dishonour-as-15-bribe-politicians-face-public-shame-26120431.html

Green&Red

Trigger wrote: »

There was another 4 Councillors charged with accepting bribes in another rezoning, which i think I've got mixed up (Carrickmines) The Mahon (previously Flood) Tribunal details most of it in their papers, its a shocking read tbf

I'd say the Liam Lawlor days were unbelievable

rainbowtrout

Green&Red wrote: »

More shocking that they were bought for £8k each!

I wouldn't get outta bed for £8k

Electric Nitwit

Green&Red wrote: »

I wouldn't get outta bed for £8k

I knew that milk was overpriced