Another full lockdown looming? - mod warning in OP

ShineOn7

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

Re:

Organised indoor gatherings

These are controlled environments with a named event organiser, owner or manager

For example: business, training events, conferences, events in theatres and cinemas or other arts events (excluding sport).

No organised indoor gatherings should take place.

Does anyone know what power, if any, the Guards have to break up house parties tomorrow night? Are fines now law?

oldtimeyfella

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Does anyone know what power, if any, the Guards have to break up house parties tomorrow night? Are fines now law?

"Ah here, lads! Do ye not have any homes to go to?"

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

Also to add to this....over 100 people a day with between 20-30 close contacts?! Madness

People are taking the piss.

The number of people bumping into me in Dundrum Shopping Centre when I parked there to visit the dentist the other day was astounding. So many were making no attempt to avoid, I was trying to do a slalom of social distancing only to be smacked in the side by somebody else making zero attempt to slow down, stand aside etc. I got two men's elbows in side of my belly. People standing close to each other by Hotel Chocolate café; having removed the seating it seems more have been squeezing themselves in standing having their coffee, at least at one point as I passed on the escalator.

Treseemme.

Dempo1 wrote: »

Mehole appears to be blaming this on the new strain? Absolute and total Boll***, that strain was only picked up in the past 2 weeks. This surge cases is down to relaxation of previous restrictions, Shopping Frenzy over the past 3 weeks.

Governments around the world seem to think vaccine role out is going to sort this out, at this rate they won't be able to vaccinate quick enough to keep up with case numbers.

Lockdown welcome but far to late and needed because of short term greed over the past 3 weeks. They we're warned and ignored the advice given.

They just tweak the science a little bit

They're politicians after all

Dempo1

Here we go, Government spin (sorry press conference), Leo will be devasted at Gym's closing

Dempo1

Treseemme. wrote: »

They just tweak the science a little bit

They're politicians after all

Well said

Dempo1

O christ, Eamonn Ryan speaking, please stop, Please

Poorside

ShineOn7 wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

Re:


Does anyone know what power, if any, the Guards have to break up house parties tomorrow night? Are fines now law?

Yes, just cancel it.

dwainec

Work in a phone shop. In march we were closed but the latest restrictions update says on an emergency basis only. Does this mean behind closed doors?

ShineOn7

Poorside wrote: »

Yes, just cancel it.

I won't be hosting a house party tomorrow night

I want the opposite in fact

mrpdap

Hi, when do these restriction kick in? Its clear that gyms / non essential retail close from the of of business tomorrow, but all the others? Particularly the 5km limit and sporting activity

Dempo1

dwainec wrote: »

Work in a phone shop. In march we were closed but the latest restrictions update says on an emergency basis only. Does this mean behind closed doors?

Snap me too, technically yes but just lets say we've been told doors open fully

leck

What about construction - is that classified as an essential service? Construction was halted in the first lockdown, but was allowed in the most recent lockdown. My neighbour is in the middle of a bathroom renovation and hoping it can go ahead.

Dempo1

leck wrote: »

What about construction - is that classified as an essential service? Construction was halted in the first lockdown, but was allowed in the most recent lockdown. My neighbour is in the middle of a bathroom renovation and hoping it can go ahead.

I don't think they'll ever restrict construction again also trade people were not restricted either, home repairs, maintenance etc all fine

Treseemme.

Can I go to the toilet ?

I'm bursting

khalessi

Treseemme. wrote: »

Can I go to the toilet ?

I'm bursting

Is it within 5km?

Dempo1

khalessi wrote: »

Is it within 5km?

As long as its not over neighbours hedge your fine

xhomelezz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Regarding the idea that it's up to everyone to assess their own risk and act as they see fit, we all share the same air space.

An analogy: "It's up to each pilot to assess the risks of flying their airplane in this weather system". (I hasten to add that in real life mist world-class standard airlines impose a set of safety rules within which each pilot is required to fly.) What if you or I have paid an air ticket, and are allocated board the aircraft where the pilot thinks it's ok to take off direct into a severe thunderstorm with a few warning lights going off? We are there for ride innocently into needless danger.

The people who willingly take extra risks are ever more likely to be the ones frequenting your an my air space, sharing their potential viral load.

Bang on!

MrMusician18

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Harris is an expert in one thing and that’s self promotion

And being twee, he loves being twee. It's sickening.

ShineOn7

Static Jak on Reddit Ireland with a full re-cap



Full level five restrictions will be in place for a period of four weeks - until January 31st

• School holidays extended until Monday 11 January after Cabinet decision today
• As things stand the decision to extend school holidays until Jan 11th does NOT apply to childcare or crèches
• Non-essential retail are to close, and visits to other households (other than on necessary and compassionate grounds) will be banned, from 6pm tomorrow evening

And other points brought up today:

HSE Chief Clinical Officer Dr Colm Henry said the reproductive number now stands at 1.8.


He said getting the R number below 1 would now take an enormous national effort.


Dr Henry said even if we managed to get the R number down to 1.4, this would still translate into 2,000 cases per day by mid-January, and perhaps 3,000 per day by the end of January.



He said the corresponding number in hospitals at that stage could be as high as 800.

Philip Nolan:


Growth rate of 7-10% per day.


“We must take action immediately to prevent an almost unimaginable scenario, where case numbers in 7 to 10 days time are TWICE what they are today. Stay home.”

455 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 37 are in ICU.
60 additional hospitalisations in the past 24 hours.

De facto confirmation from a Cabinet minister that a 5km travel limit will be in place until January 31st - that's the criterion which triggers an eviction ban.

Travel ban from Britain extended until 6th Jan and ban will also apply to South Africa as another new strain of Covid 19 has been found there

PTH2009

Let's hope this is the very very last full lockdown

If they can accelerate the vaccine roll out to 7 days a week then no excuses

My sister is getting married early March and preparing for 25 guests. Be massively frustrating for her if its still 6 guests only by then. Having paddys day a week after won't be a help (NPHET will be very cautious around big drinking days)

dwainec

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope this is the very very last full lockdown

If they can accelerate the vaccine roll out to 7 days a week then no excuses

My sister is getting married early March and preparing for 25 guests. Be massively frustrating for her if its still 6 guests only by then. Having paddys day a week after won't be a help (NPHET will be very cautious around big drinking days)

Well it's not a full lockdown. Also getting married in march and not Holding much hope

Windmill100000

I don't know why anyone would get married now. Being told I could have only 25 people or whatever would do my head in. Wait and have your wedding on your terms, where you want and with who you want!

SCOOP 64

dwainec wrote: »

Well it's not a full lockdown. Also getting married in march and not Holding much hope

This is it ,its not, did they mention construction?

SouthWesterly

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope this is the very very last full lockdown

If they can accelerate the vaccine roll out to 7 days a week then no excuses

My sister is getting married early March and preparing for 25 guests. Be massively frustrating for her if its still 6 guests only by then. Having paddys day a week after won't be a help (NPHET will be very cautious around big drinking days)

A friend's niece got married this year. It went from a few hundred guests to 25 to 6 days before the wedding.

dwainec

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

This is it ,its not, did they mention construction?

Construction is okay. I work in a phone shop and restrictions say emergency only but we're basically allowed open as normal

Most shops will do "click and collect" but that's also a farce as I've seen people inside shops trying on clothes etc when they're meant to be cloctk and collect only

Flowergirl201

dwainec wrote: »

Construction is okay. I work in a phone shop and restrictions say emergency only but we're basically allowed open as normal

Most shops will do "click and collect" but that's also a farce as I've seen people inside shops trying on clothes etc when they're meant to be cloctk and collect only

Have they said click and collect is allowed?

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope this is the very very last full lockdown

I presume it will be extended again, which will only serve to annoy people, albeit it would be justifiable the way figures are carrying on.


I'm not sure why they don't just install a 2 month lockdown from now (til end feb) and then at least people can accept that, work around it, and plan for a mid-march opening (paddy's day will of course be cancelled, and rightly so).




In the background, vaccines will be getting rolled out, and the worry of having to return to another full on level 5 will be alleviated.


Rather than the current situation of 31st january being the deadline, when everyone knows that will be extended.


They need to get cracking on making people work from home again, though, and having legitimate restrictions on who is and is not essential. First time around, only the frontline emergency workers were essential. Second time around everyone bar the pub owners were essential.

weldoninhio

ShineOn7 wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

Re:


Does anyone know what power, if any, the Guards have to break up house parties tomorrow night? Are fines now law?

Can’t see Gardai bothering with house parties tomorrow. There’ll be enough trouble on the streets to keep them occupied.

faceman

On the plus side, we won’t be ordering as much from Amazon during this lockdown because, Brexit