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Have you lived 90% or more in the same 20 mile radius?

  • 27-12-2020 11:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭


    Saw an article of life in the USA. It said that most people lived nearly all their lives within 20 miles of where they were born. Is the same true here? I know some have worked abroad for a while. Not talking about college or a week or three on holidays etc.

    Have you left where where you were born (more than 20 miles) 146 votes

    Never left the area (20 miles). Except holidays education etc.
    59% 87 votes
    Left Ireland for a time. More than 4 months or so.
    17% 25 votes
    Live abroad now
    19% 28 votes
    Live in different part of Ireland.
    4% 6 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭ShadyAcres


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Saw an article of life in the USA. It said that most people lives nearly all their lives within 20 miles of where they were born. Is the same true here? I know some have worked abroad for a while. Not talking about college or a week or three on holidays etc.
    Lived all over Ireland...North, South East and West.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭robinbird


    i'd say it would be less in Ireland. Most people would live most of their lives within 5 miles of where they were born (excluding college, time abroad, jail time etc )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,508 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    ShadyAcres wrote: »
    Lived all over Ireland...North, South East and West.

    Dessie O'Hare?


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭robinbird


    ShadyAcres wrote: »
    Lived all over Ireland...North, South East and West.

    So have I. So have a lot of people. I still ended up about 3 miles from where I was born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    The only people this would apply to in Ireland would largely be Dubs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Loved abroad a bit but bought a house around a mile to the family home. Ties to the community make it a no brainer and being in Dublin, its convenient from a career perspective. I would say a lot of people are like this but for a while I never thought I'd come back to Ireland at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Was born in Holles Street. Live slightly under 20 miles from it. Where I've lived before was even closer to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Live more than 20 miles from where I was born and raised. Still live in the same county though :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Yep.

    Not that I haven't traveled a bit, but the promises of moving are outweighed by the costs and bs involved, have various family ties and responsibilities.

    I could up stakes and do the 'uhhh i had a big job in Manhattan and then i lived in a rare tree in Borneo what did you do with your life' thing, but its just not worth it for now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I get around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Just checked, from the house I grew up in (rural Donegal) to the furthest I moved from that house in Derry, is 22 miles away.

    I'm now back in Donegal but still bang on 22 miles from my childhood home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I would think a lot of Irish people would live most of their lives near where where they were born but boards people may be more mobile. Then again if you lived say in a big county like Cork there wouldn't be a need to leave it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Born in Dublin. Live about 10 miles as the crow flies from my childhood home. So do most of my friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That US 90% seems odd as there is far more of a tradition of going far, far away for university in the US and far more than 10% do third level there.

    I've worked abroad, worked in a field role in Ireland that means I've been to nearly every town and village in the country; used to do 2-3 month holidays where my Dad is from - but I do still live within a 2km, let alone 20 mile, radius of where I went to school. 22km from where I was born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    There's probably a huge portion of the US population that don't move around much but you never meet them because they're not the ones that travel. Any American 25+ I met while backpacking would always tell me they were from New York or LA but once you asked a few more questions it turns out they'd just been living there a few years and were actually from somewhere like Missouri.

    They have a culture of dropping everything and moving to a city halfway across the country for a job offer. I wouldn't take a job that I couldn't commute to in 45 minutes or less, nevermind move city for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    As the crow flies, I'm over 400 miles from where I was born. Been here most of my life but have lived all over the place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    That would explain the high level of inbreeding in Ireland, cousins unknowingly riding their cousins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    My parents grew up 6 or 7 miles apart and moved to my mothers town when married.

    I live in a town in-between those 2 towns about 3 miles from each so 3 miles where I grew up.

    My fiances parents live 10 mins walk from our house now.

    My brother lives a 5 min walk from my house.

    My sister is a 10 min drive.

    Of let's say my 10 closest friends....5 live in the town we were brought up in. 4 live 10 mins away. 1 lives 30km away and we tell him he's mad living so far away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Saw this comment in relation to some US state.
    'Three types I've noticed about people who never moved from our hometown.
    The first group was the bright kids who went to college locally or straight into a job. They tend to have comfortable middle class lives, are well read, active in life.
    The second are the ones who never change. Same social circles, same drama who believe hometown is the World. They sometimes think people who left have superior attitudes.
    Third, and possibly the saddest. Those who stayed waiting on the American dream that's no longer possible in a post industrial town. So they are frustrated with low paying jobs, and sad because of all the things they see others around them have experienced.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Just checked, from the house I grew up in (rural Donegal) to the furthest I moved from that house in Derry, is 22 miles away.

    I'm now back in Donegal but still bang on 22 miles from my childhood home.

    Actually I spent the best part of a year based in Dundalk, but it was for work and I only lived there Monday to Friday so it doesn't count.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I literally live 1 minute from where I was born.

    But I've lived in Dublin, Edinburgh, London and Australia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    18 years at home
    3 years away at college
    1 year at home
    2.5 years away
    1.5 years at home
    10 years away
    2 years at home

    So that works out at about 58% within 20 miles of home.

    The other 42% was spread across 3 countries and 3 continents, happy enough to have bought back near home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭NedNew2


    Miles? What are they? I'll ask my grandfather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Edgware wrote: »
    That would explain the high level of inbreeding in Ireland, cousins unknowingly riding their cousins

    You've clearly never set foot in Dundalk, nothing unknowing about it around there :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Ireland is like The Hotel California. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave.
    I've heard stories of old lads who worked the sites in England almost their whole lives and when they retired they came back to Ireland even though some of them had no friends or family left here anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    In my experience the majority of people living in the country tend to end up living their lives very close to the family home, more so than people living in town. You get homebirds all over but in the country there are a lot of houses built on the family farm or next door to the family. Whole generations tend to be close to each other, so you have a family raised in one house and when the kids get older, they build their own house on the family site, get married and raise the kids there.
    Then the brothers and sisters often live either next door or just down the road, and you also see a lot of granny flats too in the country, with a main house built alongside a smaller, separate house for an ageing parent to see out their retirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    Apart from 20 weeks in Galway for FAS which was education I lived 19 1/2 years at home and 19 1/2 years about 500M down the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    L1011 wrote: »
    That US 90% seems odd as there is far more of a tradition of going far, far away for university in the US and far more than 10% do third level there.

    It does seem pretty high. There's a lot of space in the US to move around in where everyone speaks the same language and work for many of the same employers.
    Half the population here lives around the city with most of the jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Have moved about 100 miles from where I started off. Still in same county though which is handy for the lockdowns


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  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭ceannbui


    moved to Korea to teach about 20 years ago, returned to Ireland for a year and have been in Oman for over 10 years now. But will be moving home this summer to a house me and my partner recently bought, can't wait :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Edgware wrote: »
    That would explain the high level of inbreeding in Ireland, cousins unknowingly riding their cousins

    Fairly bad down here in Kerry. Where I'm from east of Castleisland there's a whole road of families where they are all interbred. You can also tell as they all have the hapsburg jaw and they are fairly ugly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Lived all my life no more than 6 miles from where i was born. My siblings the same my children the same. We are some boring ****es.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭arsebiscuits82


    Built our house 550km from my home, my wife on the other hand is 50m from hers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    Most people from Mayo live in Galway. That is why Mayo will never win an All Ireland. Galway would collapse if Mayo won. Plenty of employment here when I finished school so most of us stayed near home. The few who head off elsewhere might meet a partner and settle in their home town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    live in dublin, but not the same "area" as my parents - still within 20km though

    I've lived in australia for a year

    My wife is more than 20km from her home town and she's also lived in 2 other different countries

    my siblings both live within 500m of my parents


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,947 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Lived in the canaries for @4yrs and have travelled a lot since for both work and pleasure.

    International travel is very much part of the Irish/European psyche, whereas in the US only 42% of the population hold a passport.
    The argument is usually that the US is so big, they don't need to travel abroad for beach/snow/nature whatever.

    The thing is tho, that often the best part of travelling is encountering cultural differences and learning to adjust to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Fairly bad down here in Kerry. Where I'm from east of Castleisland there's a whole road of families where they are all interbred. You can also tell as they all have the hapsburg jaw and they are fairly ugly.

    Went out in Castleisland once, it was like a P.T. Barnum show.
    That whole north west cork/east kerry/west limerick area is depressing and gloomy even on a summer day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    17y in Donegal
    4y in Dublin at college
    4y in Donegal again but more than 20miles away
    4y abroad in Asia and N America
    7y back in Dublin again

    Id move back to Donegal tomorrow if i could, but economic and personal factors limit that. I'd guess a large percentage of those who stayed within 20miles are in the cities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Fairly bad down here in Kerry. Where I'm from east of Castleisland there's a whole road of families where they are all interbred. You can also tell as they all have the hapsburg jaw and they are fairly ugly.

    Have a look at the photos of Blasket island. The same face all the time.

    Someone involved in r getting babies adopted overseas once assured me that mental handicap in Ireland is largely due to inbreeding, that when babies were adopted to eg the US and then came back they married close relatives without realising.

    Interesting thread but I don't qualify... Been here 20 years though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The three homes that account for the majority of my life, same postcode.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    I never liver inside a radius of 1.000 km of where I was born. Most of my life lived at least 5.000 km from it.


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    saabsaab wrote: »
    Saw an article of life in the USA. It said that most people lives nearly all their lives within 20 miles of where they were born. Is the same true here? I know some have worked abroad for a while. Not talking about college or a week or three on holidays etc.

    I'm from the USA and that doesn't sound right. Moving to a different city or state to start a new life is quite common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Have a look at the photos of Blasket island. The same face all the time.

    PS re eg Blasket and other offshore islands. They had little choice as transport was by small boat and our winters are harsh. Hence the intermarrying.

    When I was in Orkney, talking to a lady there, she mentioned that the postman was " sib"; ie related to her. They knew all their inter relations and were very careful knowing the dangers. Family trees were very important

    And this probably accounts for the prevalence of MS in Orkney. They are researching still and it is sure that there is a genetic factor.

    Apologies for taking the thread slightly sideways. Population issues are fascinating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    sgthighway wrote: »
    Most people from Mayo live in Galway. That is why Mayo will never win an All Ireland. Galway would collapse if Mayo won. Plenty of employment here when I finished school so most of us stayed near home. The few who head off elsewhere might meet a partner and settle in their home town.
    Maybe it's the lack of local jobs or opportunities but Mayo people seem to move out of it more that other counties it seems. How many other counties have a 'Mayomens association' in every area they move into?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Left home place aged 17. Haven't been living in its vicinity since. Living back in Ireland now but a couple of hours from home place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Graces7 wrote: »
    PS re eg Blasket and other offshore islands. They had little choice as transport was by small boat and our winters are harsh. Hence the intermarrying.

    When I was in Orkney, talking to a lady there, she mentioned that the postman was " sib"; ie related to her. They knew all their inter relations and were very careful knowing the dangers. Family trees were very important

    And this probably accounts for the prevalence of MS in Orkney. They are researching still and it is sure that there is a genetic factor.

    Apologies for taking the thread slightly sideways. Population issues are fascinating.

    Tristan da Cunha is another great place for that. Astma runs rife apparently


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