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Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

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    #782
    ~Rebel~
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    FuzzyThinking wrote: »
    It's sickening to see someone make comments like that about a fellow Irish person. You don't have to be a fan of someone's politics, but he's Irish and proudly so. So is Hazel Chu, who gets torrents of abuse online from people espousing this toxic nonsense.

    Would anyone have given Éamon de Valera that kind of abuse or consider him anything but one of the most iconic Irish leaders in history? A man born in New York to an Irish mother and a Cuban/Spanish father.

    Would anyone consider a guy like Roger Casement anything but an Irish hero? An Irish revolutionary, stood for human rights above all else, and even exposed the horrors of the Belgian Congo and was a gay man.

    There are countless others too who are part of who we are.

    To me being Irish is very inclusive. It's about connection. It's often a state of mind and its historically about being and backing the underdog.

    I don't recognise this exclusionary, punching down, nativist nonsense as being Irish at all.

    It's horrible. It doesn't sit with our history, as a nation that was scattered all over the planet as emigrants driven by bad circumstances on this island and as a culture that has connections everywhere though family and other links.

    It's long past time we start calling this toxicity out. It's not what we're about and we need to recognise that and be capable of embracing what it really is to be Irish, because it's not the Trumpish tripe that they're pushing.

    As a slight aside, there's a great documentary about his time in and around Brazil that'll be screening at the Galway Film Fleadh. Hopefully RTE will give it an airing at some stage.


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    #783
    seamus
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    Annasopra wrote: »
    Even Gemmas previous supporters feel she is now going too far in her racism. Sure she used to have a good few supporters on this site too. They've disappeared now.
    It's hilarious that now all these people are going, "Oh my god, this is terrible, you can't be saying these things".

    Nobody who goes on record with their racism is ever "slightly" racist. They are always out-and-out racists, they just tone it down.

    They always reveal themselves eventually.


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    #784
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    Dav010 wrote: »
    Not to popular in Cork mind.

    Ah yes, Cork.....the Rebel County! Famous, of course, for.......*checks notes*........shooting the only real rebel we've ever produced in the head :pac:


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    #785
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ah yes, Cork.....the Rebel County! Famous, of course, for.......*checks notes*........shooting the only real rebel we've ever produced in the head :pac:

    and a fellow corkman at that.


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    #786
    ancapailldorcha
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ah yes, Cork.....the Rebel County! Famous, of course, for.......*checks notes*........shooting the only real rebel we've ever produced in the head :pac:

    The Rebel Country moniker comes from the county's support of the pretender for the English throne, Perkin Warbeck. The nickname was given by Henry VII, the first Tudor King.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #787
    thomil
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    And ever since then, the people of Cork have never missed an opportunity to bet on the wrong horse! :pac:

    I actually like Cork and have made it my home, but the propensity of the local population to regularly shoot themselves in the foot with a 12" naval gun is pretty obvious...

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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    #788
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    Annasopra wrote: »
    Even Gemmas previous supporters feel she is now going too far in her racism. Sure she used to have a good few supporters on this site too. They've disappeared now.

    Nope they are still posting in other threads, such as the GB News one, the multicultural Ireland one. They just don't bother with the likes of this one or the thread about the recent issue in Canada because it's hard to try and come up with excuses other than ah well she and John are mental, when she actually says a lot of the same things that they do on here.


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    #789
    ancapailldorcha
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    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Nope they are still posting in other threads, such as the GB News one, the multicultural Ireland one. They just don't bother with the likes of this one or the thread about the recent issue in Canada because it's hard to try and come up with excuses other than ah well she and John are mental, when she actually says a lot of the same things that they do on here.

    There's a reason that racists like to dogwhistle. It gives them just enough deniability that they can push white genocide, great replacement or whatever deranged nonsense they've read. Smarter ones will say things accepting that Leo is Irish because of some vague cultural reason but it's all the same beneath the dogwhistling.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #790
    Tacitus Kilgore
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    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Nope they are still posting in other threads, such as the GB News one, the multicultural Ireland one. They just don't bother with the likes of this one or the thread about the recent issue in Canada because it's hard to try and come up with excuses other than ah well she and John are mental, when she actually says a lot of the same things that they do on here.

    It's hilarious tbh,

    Like my friend on FB - has Mick Collins as a profiler (with the proclamation as a background) A 26+6=32 cover photo with tricolour - he's been sharing GB news clips and giving out about the leftie liberal snowflakes for the past few days now,

    The ironing is delicious, and what's even funnier is he will definitely be voting SF in any election that comes up...


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    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    It's hilarious tbh,

    Like my friend on FB - has Mick Collins as a profiler (with the proclamation as a background) A 26+6=32 cover photo with tricolour - he's been sharing GB news clips and giving out about the leftie liberal snowflakes for the past few days now,

    The ironing is delicious, and what's even funnier is he will definitely be voting SF in any election that comes up...
    A bizarre merging of the left and right can occur at times these days.

    PBP folk championing Gemma.

    "Feminist" men giving women who critique TRA fanaticism misogynistic abuse.

    There's a sea change in political discourse now - and one positive is that it's bringing moderates - whether liberal or conservative - together.


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    #792
    Tacitus Kilgore
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    Lurleen wrote: »
    A bizarre merging of the left and right can occur at times these days.

    PBP folk championing Gemma.

    "Feminist" men giving women who critique TRA fanaticism misogynistic abuse.

    There's a sea change in political discourse now - and one positive is that it's bringing moderates - whether liberal or conservative - together.


    It's a complete lack of understanding of politics and motive tbh, - the guy i refer in my post is just an idiot, he's openly racist, hates the idea of socialism, but is a dole lifer, hates the idea of immigration but is a huge shinner.

    He has a vote though, and by god will he use it to vote against his beliefs.


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    #793
    branie2
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    Be right back wrote: »
    Slightly off topic, I see that Aisling O'Loughlin has had her instagram deleted by Facebook. She was a great one for giving bizarre opinions on vaccines etc..

    It was mentioned on the Facebook page for the Clare Champion


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    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    It's a complete lack of understanding of politics and motive tbh, - the guy i refer in my post is just an idiot, he's openly racist, hates the idea of socialism, but is a dole lifer, hates the idea of immigration but is a huge shinner.

    He has a vote though, and by god will he use it to vote against his beliefs.
    Lol, reminds me of Moe in The Simpsons or one of the other lads always at the bar.


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    #795
    Hangdogroad
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSeJPDGC0Vg


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    #796
    Kaybaykwah
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    Lurleen wrote: »
    A bizarre merging of the left and right can occur at times these days.

    PBP folk championing Gemma.

    "Feminist" men giving women who critique TRA fanaticism misogynistic abuse.

    There's a sea change in political discourse now - and one positive is that it's bringing moderates - whether liberal or conservative - together.


    Arlene and Gemma, mssrs Poots and Waters are on an ecumenical merge. They share opinions and values on so many topics that unification seems like a definite possibility if power is handed to them as a coalition.


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    #797
    PhoneMain
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    Kaybaykwah wrote: »
    Arlene and Gemma, mssrs Poots and Waters are on an ecumenical merge. They share opinions and values on so many topics that unification seems like a definite possibility if power is handed to them as a coalition.


    Why does religion go so much with nationalism? I'd have thought religion would advise tolerance to people from other backgrounds? There's another Flanagan one on Twitter who used be regularly on Twitter who also espouses a lot of the things the Gems did and regularly talked about homosexuality, abortion, trans rights and now the Covid vaccine being the work of the devil. It's actually bizarre. And the thing is, she presents herself as quite articulate so it's harder to just dismiss her ramblings as utter waffle (it's complete waffle!!!).


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    #798
    The Nal
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    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Why does religion go so much with nationalism? I'd have thought religion would advise tolerance to people from other backgrounds? There's another Flanagan one on Twitter who used be regularly on Twitter who also espouses a lot of the things the Gems did and regularly talked about homosexuality, abortion, trans rights and now the Covid vaccine being the work of the devil. It's actually bizarre. And the thing is, she presents herself as quite articulate so it's harder to just dismiss her ramblings as utter waffle (it's complete waffle!!!).

    Religious peopoe have insane beliefs when you think about it. Its only natural they'd believe in other mad sh1t aswell.


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    #799
    Tacitus Kilgore
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    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Why does religion go so much with nationalism? I'd have thought religion would advise tolerance to people from other backgrounds? There's another Flanagan one on Twitter who used be regularly on Twitter who also espouses a lot of the things the Gems did and regularly talked about homosexuality, abortion, trans rights and now the Covid vaccine being the work of the devil. It's actually bizarre. And the thing is, she presents herself as quite articulate so it's harder to just dismiss her ramblings as utter waffle (it's complete waffle!!!).

    That's all the american evangelical shite, folk going around quoting leviticus and all that - you can thank youtube for that muck


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    Just letting you guys know.... I don't like Gemma.


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    #801
    aciquestion
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    FuzzyThinking wrote: »
    To me being Irish is very inclusive. It's about connection. It's often a state of mind and its historically about being and backing the underdog.

    I don't recognise this exclusionary, punching down, nativist nonsense as being Irish at all.

    It's horrible. It doesn't sit with our history, as a nation that was scattered all over the planet as emigrants driven by bad circumstances on this island and as a culture that has connections everywhere though family and other links.

    It's long past time we start calling this toxicity out. It's not what we're about and we need to recognise that and be capable of embracing what it really is to be Irish, because it's not the Trumpish tripe that they're pushing.

    Signed up just to say how much we loved this post.

    Don't know how anyone Irish could look at our history, our rightful pride in our diaspora (well..most of them!), and then turn around and attack anyone who would look to make their home on our shores.


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    Kaybaykwah
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    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Why does religion go so much with nationalism? I'd have thought religion would advise tolerance to people from other backgrounds? There's another Flanagan one on Twitter who used be regularly on Twitter who also espouses a lot of the things the Gems did and regularly talked about homosexuality, abortion, trans rights and now the Covid vaccine being the work of the devil. It's actually bizarre. And the thing is, she presents herself as quite articulate so it's harder to just dismiss her ramblings as utter waffle (it's complete waffle!!!).

    Right. Looking up Rhonda, "Ian Paisley's daughter's" Wikipedia page, found that her Alma Mater was Bob Jones University; an Evangelical college in Saath Caahlina.
    What a great thing to put on your CV. These guys are all one step away from snake worshipping.


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    #803
    Gentlemanne
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    aciquestion wrote: »
    Signed up just to say how much we loved this post.

    Don't know how anyone Irish could look at our history, our rightful pride in our diaspora (well..most of them!), and then turn around and attack anyone who would look to make their home on our shores.

    Agree completely, but on a side note, if you're the "aciquestion" on twitter who posts about Gemma and John, thank you for helping me keep up with these lunatics lol


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    #804
    quinneerr
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    aciquestion wrote: »
    Signed up just to say how much we loved this post.

    Don't know how anyone Irish could look at our history, our rightful pride in our diaspora (well..most of them!), and then turn around and attack anyone who would look to make their home on our shores.
    Hold on a minute, times got hard in Ireland, many left and those who stayed suffered and eventually made Ireland into a decent country with their hard work, and you now think this means that those who remained in Ireland are obliged to throw open the doors and welcome everyone into Ireland just because some Irish left these land in years past.
    Is that the gist of it?
    Those that stayed are to pay the bill of those who left?


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    #805
    ancapailldorcha
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    quinneerr wrote: »
    Hold on a minute, times got hard in Ireland, many left and those who stayed suffered and eventually made Ireland into a decent country with their hard work, and you now think this means that those who remained in Ireland are obliged to throw open the doors and welcome everyone into Ireland just because some Irish left these land in years past.
    Is that the gist of it?
    Those that stayed are to pay the bill of those who left?

    You've spectacularly missed the point there. I don't know if you're outragemongering or whatever but the point that was being made, as I inferred was that racism is vile.

    At no point did the post state that Ireland should adopt open borders immigration.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #806
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    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Why does religion go so much with nationalism? I'd have thought religion would advise tolerance to people from other backgrounds? There's another Flanagan one on Twitter who used be regularly on Twitter who also espouses a lot of the things the Gems did and regularly talked about homosexuality, abortion, trans rights and now the Covid vaccine being the work of the devil. It's actually bizarre. And the thing is, she presents herself as quite articulate so it's harder to just dismiss her ramblings as utter waffle (it's complete waffle!!!).


    Take a look at the Christianity forum on here and you will see plenty of the same thing for some reason people who see themselves as a "real Christian" have the same views while eryone else is wrong and doomed to eternal damnation.

    Not that it's limited to "Christians" obviously

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-lgbt-idUSKBN20W2HL

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/covid-vaccine-rabbi-gay-b1788543.html?amp

    However karma or what ever you want to call it can certainly do it's thing at times

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-37116661


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    #807
    The Nal
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    Its her supporters I feel for. What a bunch of thickos.

    https://twitter.com/erodoran/status/1405830217139163138


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    #808
    Seth Brundle
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Its her supporters I feel for. What a bunch of thickos.

    https://twitter.com/erodoran/status/1405830217139163138
    Looking at one of the placards, I think "Death Jab" would be a brilliant name for a metal band!


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    #809
    dan1895
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Looking at one of the placards, I think "Death Jab" would be a brilliant name for a metal band!

    Or the finishing move of a pro wrestler.

    "Oh he's caught him with the death jab"


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    #810
    ohnonotgmail
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    Kaybaykwah wrote: »
    Right. Looking up Rhonda, "Ian Paisley's daughter's" Wikipedia page, found that her Alma Mater was Bob Jones University; an Evangelical college in Saath Caahlina.
    What a great thing to put on your CV. These guys are all one step away from snake worshipping.

    where do you think her dad got his honorary doctorate?


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    #811
    seamus
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    The video above presumably is Gemma O'Doherty committing more defamation against Beaumount Hospital, en route to her court case where she is being sued for....defamation against Beaumount Hospital.


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