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Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

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    #122
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to


    There may be a few involved, but yellow vests and most certainly Irexit can be comfortable classed as right wing. Still though, they'd be like a bag of cats if they ever tried to form a political party.


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    #123
    sydthebeat
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

    Yellow vests in Ireland are very very much a right wing / conspiracy theory group.


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    #124
    Annasopra
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    Dank Janniels wrote: »
    I reckon with the week that was and all that happened she might maybe get some clarity and tone it down abit. Same goes for the other right wing talking heads, they dont want rise their heads too far above the parapet incase of being deplatformed also

    Ye what? Gemma was thrown off twitter, facebook snd youtube ages ago. Gemma tones up not down.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #125
    Annasopra
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    A mix of lefties and righties, in one party! I can't see that working

    Lefties? Who?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #126
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,380 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to
    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    There may be a few involved, but yellow vests and most certainly Irexit can be comfortable classed as right wing. Still though, they'd be like a bag of cats if they ever tried to form a political party.
    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Yellow vests in Ireland are very very much a right wing / conspiracy theory group.
    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Lefties? Who?

    as discussed....


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    #127
    Annasopra
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

    Nah - Yellow Vests and Irexit are racist so definitely on the far right

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #128
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,380 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Nah - Yellow Vests and Irexit are racist so definitely on the far right

    as discussed, id say theres a few lefties around there alright, but i do also accept, primarily righties


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    #129
    Annasopra
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    as discussed, id say theres a few lefties around there alright, but i do also accept, primarily righties


    Ok but where is the evidence of these left wing yellow vest people. And its not righties. They are far right.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #130
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,380 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Ok but where is the evidence of these left wing yellow vest people. And its not righties. They are far right.

    am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?


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    #131
    The Nal
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    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

    They're all full of hate and anger. Thats why mot of them spend their evenings talking into a laptop screen to the same few dozen people in an echo chamber.

    Most of them are overly sensitive cowards aswell so they don't like opposing views.


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    #132
    TaurenDruid
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?

    No, you're not.

    It's quite possible some left-wingers were involved in the very early days of YVI, when it wasn't quite clear what it was and before it had its split and then one side of that split disappeared completely.

    As soon as it did become clear that what remained was all far-right populism, that support disappeared.


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    #133
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters, conspiracy theorists arent always ‘far right’
    Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years


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    #134
    Annasopra
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?

    No. When Yellow Vests started there was an alternative left wing yellow vest group that set up.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #135
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters, conspiracy theorists arent always ‘far right’
    Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

    While SF are a left wing party a significant minority of their support most certainly is not, there are more than a few far right nationalist types in that support, usually thick as **** too.


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    #136
    BobbyMalone
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

    'solid left wing conspiracy'? Fairly common in fascist arguments from the 30s, and is seen in many of the Qanon and alt-right conspiracy theories today.


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    #137
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    While SF are a left wing party a significant minority of their support most certainly is not, there are more than a few far right nationalist types in that support, usually thick as **** too.

    Their ‘lefty’ position is just to get the young onboard , the diehard voters are the opposite of this and im sure the ‘woke’ position has been explained to the core. Its done so a lager swilling perpetually unemployed ‘up de ra’ type can tell his single mother daughter ‘shure mary lou will get you a free gaf’


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    #138
    TaurenDruid
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Their ‘lefty’ position is just to get the young onboard , the diehard voters are the opposite of this and im sure the ‘woke’ position has been explained to the core. Its done so a lager swilling perpetually unemployed ‘up de ra’ type can tell his single mother daughter ‘shure mary lou will get you a free gaf’

    What's it actually like - having to generate so much energy to reserve for bile and hatred of huge swathes of society? Is it not exhausting?!


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    #139
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    What's it actually like - having to generate so much energy to reserve for bile and hatred of huge swathes of society? Is it not exhausting?!

    When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

    Other discussions - ‘huge swathes of society’


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    #140
    TaurenDruid
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

    Other discussions - ‘huge swathes of society’

    But it's not just "welfare leeches" you hate, though, is it.


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    #141
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    But it's not just "welfare leeches" you hate, though, is it.

    Realistically its most of it, anyone who is not a net benefit to the economy I have issue with. And ofcourse anyone who supports politics that increase tax or decrease freedoms for me.


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    #142
    namloc1980
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Realistically its most of it, anyone who is not a net benefit to the economy I have issue with. And ofcourse anyone who supports politics that increase tax or decrease freedoms for me.

    People on long term sick and disability - what would you like done with them?

    I'm guessing you're the kind who wants loads of services but don't want to pay for any of it.


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    #143
    tdf7187
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

    Er, no, it's a right wing conspiracy theory that a tiny tiny minority who claim to be on the left have been sucked into.


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    #144
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters

    Have you any evidence for this assertion?


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    #145
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

    Are you referring to tax evasion and avoidance by MNC's and the super-rich? Probably not. Your type always pick on the weakest targets.


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    #146
    AndrewJRenko
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    The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

    https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496


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    #147
    Acosta
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    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Er, no, it's a right wing conspiracy theory that a tiny tiny minority who claim to be on the left have been sucked into.

    The only antisemitism I've come across on social media is from members of the national party and their supporters. I remember one who I think attended the noose rally, or another one of theirs around that time, getting kicked off twitter for it because the antisemitism was so bad.


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    #148
    francois
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    https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496?s=19


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    #149
    Acosta
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

    https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496

    It's tough on the Guards having to deal with this lot but there's not much they can do. Despite a lot of talk from the government at various stages since last March, there is no legislation as far as I know that means they can do anything other than advise people.


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    #150
    gmisk
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

    https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496
    Blaring and screeching about the constitution....to a PSNI office....thick scumbag.

    Her favourite fashion accessory the crutch is back...lol


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    #151
    gmisk
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    Acosta wrote: »
    It's tough on the Guards having to deal with this lot but there's not much they can do. Despite a lot of talk from the government at various stages since last March, there is no legislation as far as I know that means they can do anything other than advise people.
    Huh?
    That is simply not true.
    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/coronavirus-ireland-fines-levelfive-rules-19593366

    Very few have been it doesn't mean they can't.

    France have been handing out a tonne of fines etc.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-france-fines-update-christophe-castaner-a9440146.html
    As have Spain.


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