George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

Stovepipe

I've seen the Hungarian police quell a Neo-Nazi attempt to disrupt a gay pride parade, in a country not known for tolerating gay pride in the first place. It wasn't pretty but neither was the sight of Neo-Nazis encouraging their kids to throw stones at gay people. I've also seen the French CRS deal with football hooligans. No guff tolerated by either police force. You play stupid games,you will win stupid prizes, at the point of a police baton, as required.

Necro

Hunky Monster wrote: »

If this year has shown us anything it's to not trust mainstream media in this country one bit. We're being lied to ALL the time.

OS_Head wrote: »

I wouldn't just say it was this country. MSM in general, from Hollywood to any of the Evening news broadcasts to all of the Newspapers, they all have an agenda. If the truth goes against their agenda then it's not published and usually the opposite is claimed.

Mod:

Get back on topic.

If you want to discuss this further then I advise you both to visit the Conspiracy Theory Forum

Biafranlivemat

Hunky Monster wrote: »

All the heroes on this thread. Has anyone here ever tried to control someone having a psychotic episode or someone high on drugs?

I have, the lunatic calmed down, when the armed police arrived.

TomTomTim

DeanAustin wrote: »

Seen this sort of stuff posted a bit. Not sure we should be aspiring to be like Poland or Romania.

Why? Poland have just created a great law that stops tech companies from suppressing free speech, while we're doing the opposite with our hate speech laws. The positives of Poland outweigh the negatives, especially if you are a traditionalist.

Tipperary animal lover

Wouldn't hurt a fly i tells ya .... the full story always comes out.

Signore Fancy Pants

The racism brigade on Twitter are having a field day with this story.

Shouting down people because there are no "facts" that the perpetrator was a bold boy. Yet they have been screaming that AGS conducted a racially motivated murder of an innocent young man....obviously despite them having no "facts"

Really harming actual victims of racism, well in my view.

Ah of course there’s the obligatory “Irish people are soft” post :rolleyes:

corks finest

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah of course there’s the obligatory “Irish people are soft” post :rolleyes:

And of course its correct

tikkahunter

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

The racism brigade on Twitter are having a field day with this story.

Shouting down people because there are no "facts" that the perpetrator was a bold boy. Yet they have been screaming that AGS conducted a racially motivated murder of an innocent young man....obviously despite them having no "facts"

Really harming actual victims of racism, well in my view.

Liberal left at it’s finest.

hynesie08

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

The racism brigade on Twitter are having a field day with this story.

Shouting down people because there are no "facts" that the perpetrator was a bold boy. Yet they have been screaming that AGS conducted a racially motivated murder of an innocent young man....obviously despite them having no "facts"

Really harming actual victims of racism, well in my view.

The same ones saying that he's not a criminal (despite the fact he has had convictions quashed or thrown out) are the same ones who tweeted "not guilty doesn't mean innocent" after a certain trial a few years ago.

I'd bet money on it.......

Sam Quentin

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah of course there’s the obligatory “Irish people are soft” post :rolleyes:

Yes we are soft,. soft on crime,soft on insurance fraud etc..
I will say that the Gardaí have certainly done and do their utmost on their particular side of things and have really toughened up certainly in recent years..they are Policing our Country as best they can with what they have.

boombang

I don't believe this was a racist killing at all, but we should not kid ourselves that Ireland is free of racism. It would be a great shame if the BS in response to this case was to retard the course of eliminating racism in Ireland.

For the record, the racism I have witnessed has been from young scumbags directed towards blacks and asians. I have never seen racist treatment of people by "official" Ireland.

givyjoe

DeanAustin wrote: »

Didn’t Poland elect a homophobic president recently and are in the bad books of the EU because the government is trying to control the judiciary?

Isn’t there a scandal in Romania currently because they watered down disinfectant in hospitals to save money and caused an outbreak of Covid?

More people from both of those countries want to come here than vice versa...and Irish people are generally very proud of their country.

Is that really the best you can come up with re: Romania?! The absolute sh1t show that is the HSE and their management of Covid overshadows anything they've done/failed to do. At least in Romania they are strictly enforcing movement limits (my otther half is from Oradea). They also don't record case numbers on pen and paper.

Jinglejangle69

Brid going full on again.

Now going the whole it wasn't a machete angle to try worm her way out.

Please please people put us put of our misery at the Balot box next time.

Burkie1203

Officers say they had previously been called to deal with disturbances arising from his behaviour at the house in Manorfields. Members of the family had obtained protection orders against the young man on the basis that he posed a threat to their safety.

Nkencho did not live at the family home but had various addresses in Ireland and Britain. Some sources believe he was moving between properties in Ireland while others say he had returned from the UK to spend Christmas with his family.

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The above line from the Times article sort of flies in the face of the brothers assertions on Thursday about the family not being able to carry on without his brother around seen as they didnt want him near them

PokeHerKing

boombang wrote: »

I don't believe this was a racist killing at all, but we should not kid ourselves that Ireland is free of racism. It would be a great shame if the BS in response to this case was to retard the course of eliminating racism in Ireland.

For the record, the racism I have witnessed has been from young scumbags directed towards blacks and asians. I have never seen racist treatment of people by "official" Ireland.

Wherever there are humans there will be prejudices and tribalism and in multicultural societies we will call it racism. But really its just humans being humans. Nowhere is free of it and no one demographic or race owns it.

DeanAustin

weldoninhio wrote: »

Silly Romanians, messing up their disinfectant.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-over-a-million-units-of-recalled-hand-sanitiser-sent-to-health-facilities-1.4390519

There is a difference between mistakes and deliberate acts. You know when your health minister is saying about the health system that “everything beneath me is rotten, corrupt, demotivated. They don’t give a **** about anything out there” that you have a problem. The guy’s name is Vlad Voiculescu.

Meleftone

I haven't seen it mentioned but would the armed response officers not have body cams?

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

Maybe working with you drove them to drink haha. Any polish I know work their arse off and send most money home. I live in an area full of them due to the abundance of farm work here.

I never said they weren't hard workers or how much they send home. I said they were all, to a man, big time garglers.

Necro

Mod:

Once again, can we please stay on topic - this is not the thread to discuss multiculturalism - we have another thread here

Discussion of Polish or Romanian people working in Ireland is not needed in this thread.

weldoninhio

DeanAustin wrote: »

There is a difference between mistakes and deliberate acts. You know when your health minister is saying about the health system that “everything beneath me is rotten, corrupt, demotivated. They don’t give a **** about anything out there” that you have a problem. The guy’s name is Vlad Voiculescu.

Mistake? They knew for weeks before recalling it. Also the tender to supply the sanitiser went to a stationary company. €7.5m for defective sanitiser. I’m sure heads will roll and there was nothing corrupt about the rewarding of the contract.

dzsfah2xoynme9

boombang wrote: »

I don't believe this was a racist killing at all, but we should not kid ourselves that Ireland is free of racism. It would be a great shame if the BS in response to this case was to retard the course of eliminating racism in Ireland.

For the record, the racism I have witnessed has been from young scumbags directed towards blacks and asians. I have never seen racist treatment of people by "official" Ireland.

Every single country in the world has racism. It's a human trait sadly and never won't be. No matter how much money is thrown at it, how many ad campaigns etc its always going to exist. It always has been and always will be. I'm a white Irish fella and I've experienced racism on my world travels. But I just brushed it off. As some of you saw in those videos from Blanchardstown a few days ago, some of those protesting were extremely racist. But somehow its completely glossed over..

bilbot79

Meleftone wrote: »

I haven't seen it mentioned but would the armed response officers not have body cams?

No. It was initially mentioned that following this incident they should have.

monty_python

hynesie08 wrote: »

he has had convictions quashed or thrown out.....

Have you a source to verify this

Grab All Association

Presuming the 15 or so black people that got off in Colbert Station were at some protest in Dublin. Non essential journey in a pandemic. I was confronted by a bus driver here (CIE bus) trying to get out to UHL ffs. Referral letter in hand clearly with UHL yadda yadda yadda Limerick.

What happened to the Gardaí at Heuston questioning commuters?

soiseztomabel

Any word on the protests in Balbriggin?

Grab All Association

Grab All Association wrote: »

Presuming the 15 or so black people that got off in Colbert Station were at some protest in Dublin. Non essential journey in a pandemic. I was confronted by a bus driver here (CIE bus) trying to get out to UHL ffs. Referral letter in hand clearly with UHL yadda yadda yadda Limerick.

What happened to the Gardaí at Heuston questioning commuters?

I traveled to Cork via train in November during lockdown and I never saw a Garda.

hynesie08

monty_python wrote: »

Have you a source to verify this

The Sunday world.

Although George Nkencho was arrested during a previous incident at his home on Manorfields Drive in Hartstown last January, the matter was later dealt with under the provisions of the Mental Health Act.

Sources also say that two minor matters over which Mr Nkencho was charged in the past were subsequently struck out.

[CrimsonGhost]

hynesie08 wrote: »

monty_pyton wrote:

Have you a source to verify this

The Sunday world.

Have you a reliable source to verify it?

walshb

Regina Immense Shorts wrote: »

Every single country in the world has racism. It's a human trait sadly and never won't be. No matter how much money is thrown at it, how many ad campaigns etc its always going to exist. It always has been and always will be. I'm a white Irish fella and I've experienced racism on my world travels. But I just brushed it off. As some of you saw in those videos from Blanchardstown a few days ago, some of those protesting were extremely racist. But somehow its completely glossed over..

This is it in a nutshell..

Constantly highlighting racism, poking it and trying to find it everywhere is doing more harm than good. Anti racism is now more dangerous than racism..