George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

Lumen

briany wrote: »

Could they have shot to disable rather than shot to kill, for example?

The only way to do that is to have the victim restrained first, and if you've done that you don't need to shoot them.

SafeSurfer

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It doesn't, but I fear if I ask certain questions people will think I'm a blue haired twitter BLM person.

Well why mention the fact that he was black twice in your post?
You didn’t mention any other aspect about him apart from his race.

hynesie08

Ragepager747 wrote: »

A lot of comparisons flying around of previous instances where white men wielding knives were successfully disarmed and arrested. Or the €25 fine instance where a topless lad was fined for attacking Gardaí. This comparison is the main tool been used to stoke the race fire. What do you guys think?

When non lethal force was applied, he dropped the knife. If George had dropped the knife he'd be in a padded cell right now.

Jinglejangle69

briany wrote: »

I don't think that right-on Twitterites are doing their case any good by posting things such as "Rest in power, George Nkencho" when there are reports and videos of him lunging at the Gards with a knife (the knife part being from the reports rather than the videos I saw, because the videos are too far away). That just makes them look totally out of touch with reality.

But, to give balance on this, to say it was a totally justified killing, I don't know if that's clear yet. It's hard to tell, looking at portrait-aspect shaky Twitter videos filmed from across a green. Could they have shot to disable rather than shot to kill, for example? Or were they trying to shoot to disable, but missed?

I'm interested in how the facts of the case develop. I'm sure the usual suspects will be seeking to use the incident for radicalisation purposes, but then they always do.

How do you shoot to disable?

Mules

titan18 wrote: »

Amazed people think that mental illness is an excuse for this guys behaviour. As a mentally ill person myself, it's a bit sh1t to be associated with scumbags like this guy.

Or maybe I should be out attacking guards and assaulting people too

I agree with you 100%

Ohmeha

Ragepager747 wrote: »

A lot of comparisons flying around of previous instances where white men wielding knives were successfully disarmed and arrested. Or the €25 fine instance where a topless lad was fined for attacking Gardaí. This comparison is the main tool been used to stoke the race fire. What do you guys think?

I'd be confident if you search these BLM muppets tweets from 2 years ago you will see tweets from them delighted with the gardai for popping off Mark Hennessy

briany

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ENkencho/status/1344403452223516673

He lunged at gardai with a machete just to state the fact

Some composure he's showing there to write that. I think that if I'd witnessed a family member be fatally shot, I'd be in such a state of shock that I wouldn't be in a fit state to remember what year it was, never mind post put up a reasonably well-formatted post on Twitter, hours after the fact.

CinemaGuy45

Bonniedog wrote: »

Not a night to be wandering about Balbriggan or Tyrellstown or getting the north line DART.

I am sure there will be balanced reflection and no jumping to conclusions.

This is Ireland I am sure there will be no looting or riots until the full facts of this case have been examined.;)

myshirt

PsychoPete wrote: »

Does buttering your bread with a machete make it any less dangerous

What they should have done here when he lunged with the knife was to grab some ham and some bread.

The natural instinct to make a sandwich would have kicked in, and the crisis would have been averted. To level it up, if they had had some mayonnaise, a cuisine de france bread roll, and a spicy chicken fillet on hand, the urge to make a hot chicken roll would have overridden the minor issue of a direct threat to life of another human being. Absolutely.

This man had just been in Spar, and such was the depth of feeling of his experience in there he broke the managers nose, split his lip, and cracked his teeth. He didn't get any chicken fillet roll. He left the shop chicken fillet roll-less.

It is clear proper procedure was not followed. A more experienced Garda force would have handled this better.

strandroad

Bonniedog wrote: »

Perhaps some Irish people will now come to comprehend the puzzlement of Americans at the outrage globally when a hood's luck runs out. No one who has to live close to these people no matter their origin or pigmentation or excuse misses them. You can take that to the bank, and that there will be lots of this person's neighbours, black, white and pink who will sleep easier tonight. not a nice way to be remembered, but it happens to be true, all the bullsh1t aside.

If you're comparing this situation with George Floyd's death, they couldn't be more different...

Witcher

briany wrote: »

Some composure he's showing there to write that. I think that if I'd witnessed a family member be fatally shot, I'd be in such a state of shock that I wouldn't be in a fit state to remember what year it was, never mind post put up a reasonably well-formatted post on Twitter, hours after the fact.

I'd say the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree between himself and his 'big bro', maybe I'm wrong.

Kermit.de.frog

briany wrote: »

Some composure he's showing there to write that. I think that if I'd witnessed a family member be fatally shot, I'd be in such a state of shock that I wouldn't be in a fit state to remember what year it was, never mind post put up a reasonably well-formatted post on Twitter, hours after the fact.

Also if it was a member of my family I don't think i'd refer to them as "mentally-ill" either tbh. I guess different people handle things in different ways.

Fade Into You

The Gardaí are the worst.

Feisar

Ragepager747 wrote: »

A lot of comparisons flying around of previous instances where white men wielding knives were successfully disarmed and arrested. Or the €25 fine instance where a topless lad was fined for attacking Gardaí. This comparison is the main tool been used to stoke the race fire. What do you guys think?

As an unarmed service that'll be the case. However if there is superior firepower available it should be utilized. Why not? Less risk for the Gardaí.

CinemaGuy45

titan18 wrote: »

Amazed people think that mental illness is an excuse for this guys behaviour. As a mentally ill person myself, it's a bit sh1t to be associated with scumbags like this guy.

Or maybe I should be out attacking guards and assaulting people too

Don't worry whatever condition you have to deal with you come across as a decent person.

You make a great point also.

youtheman

Donald Trump wrote: »

Perhaps they could have calmed him down by singing a lullaby to him?

Or they could have shouted "Ah here !"

walshb

Fade Into You wrote: »

The Gardaí are the worst.

Worst post ever!

ElJeffe

This is the moment the Paul Murphy's of this country have been waiting for. They will be only to happy to attack the brave men and women of the Gardai who put their lives on the line each and every day to defend us against criminals like this thug.

Spanish Eyes

What the actual F motivates these twitter morons. I am so disgusted with Hazel Chu. The Lord Mayor of Dublin no less and a Greenie too. What right has she to speak for me, a Dub all my life. I am fekkin sick of this now.

The Gardai did their job, as they would have WRT to anyone in that man's situation. Race doesn't come into it, assessment of danger does.

ElJeffe

ElJeffe wrote: »

This is the moment the Paul Murphy's of this country have been waiting for. They will be only to happy to attack the brave men and women of the Gardai who put their lives on the line each and every day to defend us against criminals like this thug.

No doubt he’ll RISE to the defense of the Gardai and injured shop worker.

Eivor

Fade Into You wrote: »

The Gardaí are the worst.

I know yeah. Terrible in this day and age you can’t just swing a machete around like a lunatic when it tickles your fancy. Sickening.

hynesie08

Right, I've actually seen someone on twitter suggest they should have thrown a net over him........ That's enough Internet for today.

Danzy

Ragepager747 wrote: »

“ Today the Garda murdered my mentally ill brother in-front of my eyes with no remorse. They didn’t even try detain him they just used brute force. Then identify him as a thug and people stand here and tell me BLM?”

So his brother is blatantly lying. This family must be a real staple of the community.

They certainly have made an impact on the community in the last few years.

hynesie08

Eivor wrote: »

I know yeah. Terrible in this day and age you can’t just swing a machete around like a lunatic when it tickles your fancy. Sickening.

Lugs brannigan would have a neck so thick the machete would break. Today's lads are weak.....

Spanish Eyes

Anyway, tomorrow we can moan about lockdown for NYE, ok.

TallGlass2

Seen a video there, seems like it's like a powder keg in parts of Blanch tonight

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Also if it was a member of my family I don't think i'd refer to them as "mentally-ill" either tbh. I guess different people handle things in different ways.

Better than referring to previous convictions.

Bonniedog

I see one of our esteemed academics likes a statement on the BLM page condemning the "brutal killing."

Why are our tax € paying the wages of these ultra leftist fanatics to "teach"?

CinemaGuy45

Gardesana Pecher wrote: »

I would have thought tomorrow's public march down O Connell street wouldnt be allowed under restrictions?

Just to expand on the question what do we now consider a march?;)

TallGlass2

TallGlass2 wrote: »

Seen a video there, seems like it's like a powder keg in parts of Blanch tonight

No. That’s just the normal Eve of New Years Eve party.