George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

Eric Cartman

tylercheribini wrote: »

Garda firing stray bullets into any household is surely a no-no though.

It would be, but thankfully that didnt happen and all the bullets landed in the thug swinging a knife around. Gardai have to account for every shot fired

screamer

ParkRunner wrote: »

I’m sure she said he was carrying his protector and I understood it to mean the knife?

Yes I heard the same and took the same meaning from it....

newmember2

Eric Cartman wrote: »

jay0109 wrote: »

"It is now believed that George was in the middle of a mental health crisis at that moment"

Absolute abhorrent lies. Its very clear RTE has turned its back on the irish people to feed into this stupid multicultural agenda, an absolute disgrace

You're a psychiatrist now in your spare time now are ya? :rolleyes:

tylercheribini

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It would be, but thankfully that didnt happen and all the bullets landed in the thug swinging a knife around. Gardai have to account for every shot fired

So the bullet holes were all staged so?

newmember2

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It would be, but thankfully that didnt happen and all the bullets landed in the thug swinging a knife around. Gardai have to account for every shot fired

Speaking of lies...^^

People complaining that the store manager or the mob of protestors wasn't mentioned?? WTF has that got to do with the examination of the shooting? The assault at the Eurospar was mentioned, the family were interviewed as their sibling was shot, what else did you want - an interview with the garda who pulled the trigger? They went into how the Garda are trained and more or less inferred that correct procedure was followed. The issue they were trying to highlight was the inadequate resourcing of the Gardai - whether it would have saved this guy's life nobody knows.

screamer

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

If that’s true it’s more than the Garda they’re throwing under the bus......

Hellokitty1212

newmember? wrote: »

You're a psychiatrist now in your spare time now are ya? :rolleyes:

Is his sister ???

statesaver

newmember? wrote: »

You're a psychiatrist now in your spare time now are ya? :rolleyes:

He still went for a Garda with a knife.

Eric Cartman

Hellokitty1212 wrote: »

Is his sister ???

Youll get some excuse now. The mental health accusations are just as bad as the ‘32 previous convictions’ ones, baseless and ourely there tk defend an agenda

Burkie1203

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40202912.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Eric Cartman

tylercheribini wrote: »

So the bullet holes were all staged so?

If they are real... which I doubt, theyre probably from the correctly aimed shots that took out a violent criminal that passed through his body.

TheChizler

Hellokitty1212 wrote: »

I’m just off a Facebook chat where I asked a pal who believes the whole story - every bit.

I asked “what kind of mental health issues did he have ? Anxiety like my wife has? Dementia like the mother in law ? autism like next door’s wee one ???”

“He was in a mental health crisis”

Few minutes of back and forward and ending in “why can’t you just accept he was ill??”

There’s no moving some people from their views, no matter how deluded.

It's not exactly unbelievable that he might have been experiencing some sort of psychotic event, he did act completely irrationally and attack Gardaí while being hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned.

Not that it forgives or changes what he did before anyone tries to say I'm defending his actions.

SEPT 23 1989

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

They don't do that to their own

Never have

If they do it's a whole different ball game

Eric Cartman

TheChizler wrote: »

It's not exactly unbelievable that he might have been experiencing some sort of psychotic event, he did act completely irrationally and attack Gardaí while being hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned.

Not that it forgives or changes what he did before anyone tries to say I'm defending his actions.

How long was this psychotic event, because unless it started when he decided to start carrying that knife around, its no excuse.

Cordell

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

No, it seems to be the normal process, and rightly so.

The decision is part of a procedural process within Gsoc and follows an initial examination of the incident and a decision that a full investigation into “potential” criminal offences is required.

Various sources have stressed this does not mean it suspects the garda who shot Mr Nkencho committed a criminal offence, but that a full investigation is needed to determine whether that is the case.

The same process was instituted in the Gsoc investigation into the shooting dead by a garda of Mark Hennessy in May 2018, which resulted in the DPP directing that no criminal prosecution should be taken against the garda

It will be foolish for them to cave in to the pressure of the deluded mob and a dangerous precedent.

Kivaro

Instead of Prime Time tonight, I continued watching a fictional series on Netflix, as I knew it would be more realistic than anything RTE would provide us on this shooting.

RTE are probably the biggest divisive entity in the whole country. Their sole purpose these last number of years is to create division (and derision) across the nation, as they feel it will continue to make them relevant. Don't forget that the RTE boss and her stars all became millionaires at our expense. We are forced to pay their abhorrent wages and luxurious benefits. It appears that their smugness only enhances with a high number of complaints, as they are indeed untouchable, and they know it.

RTE despises the normal/regular Irish person; they see us as subservient. We are actually immaterial to their needs since the government will introduce a new media/household tax this year on every household in this country in order to support the lifestyles of the rich and famous at RTE.
It is a sad state of affairs.

TheChizler

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

Completely normal procedure for shooting deaths involving a police force, even in the trigger happy U S of A.

Meeoow

Meeoow wrote: »

Gsoc saying it will be a criminal investigation now. Sounds like they are going to throw the guard under the bus.

That's just procedure, GSOC won't be finished their investigations for ages. Could be 12 or 24 months!

newmember2

Hellokitty1212 wrote: »

Is his sister ???

She probably wouldn't need to be a psychiatrist to know something was up with her own brother - and if the Garda already had run-ins with this guy before but charges were never brought then I'd imagine there might be some justification for the view that he might have had mental issues, no? You don't wanna hear that though as it "doesn't fit in with your narrative" ...ffs .

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They don't do that to their own

Never have

If they do it's a whole different ball game

GSOC are not gardai.
They are an independent body.
Gardai are definitely not 'their own'

munster87

Everyone should claim that anything they’ve done wrong was due to a mental health crisis at this point.

newmember2

tylercheribini wrote: »

Garda firing stray bullets into a household is surely a serious breach of procedures though, we had to shoot the occupants to save them.

Certainly does not look good although at least the bullet holes are low if that counts for anything.

TheChizler

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How long was this psychotic event, because unless it started when he decided to start carrying that knife around, its no excuse.

I'm not saying it was one for sure never mind how long it lasted, it would be pretty idiotic for someone who's not involved and a non-expert to make a definite statement like that. It's just not an impossibility like that poster was stating.

Though a brief psychiatric episode is less than a month by definition, they're not quick events.

newmember2

statesaver wrote: »

He still went for a Garda with a knife.

He did yeh, in front of armed garda - the actions of either a madman or someone off their head on something.

zerosugarbuzz

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They don't do that to their own

Never have

If they do it's a whole different ball game

Remember Maurice McCabe ...

ParkRunner

The sister didn’t seem overly upset at all. She said “her family are shocked, devastated, disappointed, sad and anxious” but one week after the event she didn’t come across as a person grieving for her brother.

Hellokitty1212

I can’t decide whether the sister is putting on a fake Dub accent or the thug brother is putting on a Nigerian/London wannabe gangster one.

newmember2

ParkRunner wrote: »

The sister didn’t seem overly upset at all. She said “her family are shocked, devastated, disappointed, sad and anxious” but one week after the event she didn’t come across as a person grieving for her brother.

What did you want - slit wrists?

TheChizler

ParkRunner wrote: »

The sister didn’t seem overly upset at all. She said “her family are shocked, devastated, disappointed, sad and anxious” but one week after the event she didn’t come across as a person grieving for her brother.

What does a grieving person look like? Anger and denial are two of the famous stages after all.

screamer

TheChizler wrote: »

I'm not saying it was one for sure never mind how long it lasted, it would be pretty idiotic for someone who's not involved and a non-expert to make a definite statement like that. It's just not an impossibility like that poster was stating.

Though a brief psychiatric episode is less than a month by definition, they're not quick events.

Doesn’t matter what sort of psychosis he may or may not have been experiencing, it does not trump the immediate threat to life he presented. Overall his mental state is not a factor, and it never can be in these split second life or death situations.