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George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

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    #1292
    Mimon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    The family are innocent.

    Videos showing a man being shot are nothing more than gratuitous.

    We don't need to know the narrative until the investigation is finished.

    People are trying to twist the narrative and people are rioting because of this.

    Of course the truth needs to be known now.


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    #1293
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.


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    #1294
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The local blanch lads are already planning revenge. And they are some dangerous heads involved. I am seeing the WhatsApp chats.

    Gardai need to get a grip on this quick.

    Revenge for what? Would opportunism be a better description.


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    #1295
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Seen videos of them smashing up Dublin buses now and a Spar shop. How the hell are locals tolerating this trash that are destroying their local community.?

    The Gardai need to saturate the area with units. I've got a bad feeling the situation could escalate rapidly


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    #1296
    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Tchaikovsky wrote: »
    Genuine question: what are they protesting? It's sad that someone has been killed but when there were protests in the US and UK it was because the killings of unarmed black people were getting out of hand. This guy was not unarmed and there hasn't been a string of murders by the Gardai.

    I think it's certain individuals trying to whip up a social media frenzy and appear relevant, ignorant of the history of Ireland as the land of the oppressed, as opposed to that of the slave owners and colonisers in the US, France and UK.

    they want to be american, everyone does


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    #1297
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.

    Backed by video??

    Explain please.

    And what reports?


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    #1298
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,670 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The local blanch lads are already planning revenge. And they are some dangerous heads involved. I am seeing the WhatsApp chats.

    Gardai need to get a grip on this quick.

    Revenge on who? The Gardai?

    Or innocent bystanders, shop owners or bus drivers?


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    #1299
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    You realise that sound and light travel at different speeds right?

    The gardai have bodycams. Let's wait for the investigation to run it course.


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    #1300
    lolokeogh
    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭lolokeogh


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.
    what news reports??im not doubting you at all but would like to take a gander


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    #1301
    Bigmac1euro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    Gardai at the scene doing feck all as usual

    https://streamable.com/7ahhro


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    #1302
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,332 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Just to say, that picture of the supposed shop victim is fake. Its a photo of an English football fan that was attacked.


    https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1344665473384927233

    https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1344665543278780423


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    #1303
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,196 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Bigmac1euro wrote: »
    Few young lads showed up


    https://streamable.com/6ki71c

    All young again....


    That's who's all blowing this up. Young douches with no cop on.


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    #1304
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Birneybau wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1344665473384927233

    Fake news. Not him.


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    #1305
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The gardai have bodycams.

    Do they?


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    #1306
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Is she posting her own personal opinions using an IrelandInMusic account?

    That the wan from Limerick?


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    #1307
    furiousox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,979 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The local blanch lads are already planning revenge. And they are some dangerous heads involved. I am seeing the WhatsApp chats.
    Gardai need to get a grip on this quick.

    Oh well, happy new year!! :(

    CPL 593H



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    #1308
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,332 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Fake news. Not him.

    Wow, quick to jump the gun...


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    #1309
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.
    This is true.

    There are also a lot of falsehoods circulating.

    The shots were fired before. Its written in the times.

    There are also witnesses who say they are not sure if there was a knife at the exact time of the shooting.


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    #1310
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,869 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Bigmac1euro wrote: »
    Gardai at the scene doing feck all as usual

    https://streamable.com/7ahhro


    Spitting on the Garda car, such model citizens.


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    #1311
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Who’ll pay the mortgage now?

    This is the funny thing to note here.

    In London, or Paris, these new "poor marginalised" whathaveyous, from what I gather they are housed in council estates the natives long since vacated. I remember seeing in Glasgow a large high rise estate had its demolition cancelled because the Home Office needed to move asylum seekers out of London.

    This isn't the case in Blanchardstown. Or most of West Dublin. For whatever reason, despite the fact many of these people arrived when the DCC couldn't pay people to live in the Ballymun towers, they weren't sent there. Nor were they by and large sent to the sketchy local authority estates in Blanch (Corduff, Fortlawn, Sheepmoor, Whitestown)

    By and large they were sent to private rental homes, some 70s built areas like Huntstown but largely more boom time built brand new areas. Large 3 bed semi detached homes built with the upper working/ lower middle class buyer in mind.

    These people should really be reminded that Tyrellstown, Ongar and Clonee in no way resemble a French banlieue in architecture or social class. The only large groupings of these in actual council housing is in the large new estates Parnell and Avondale that were built about a decade ago. The allocation of so many of these homes to the newcomers being one of the main drivers of the House the Irish First movement out there, as the people who grew up in the neighbouring older estates felt sidelined.

    While plenty of these people undoutedtly got jobs and bought homes in the area, a good deal of these people are unemployed/ semi employed, living off rental subsidies, and have the jockeys bollocks to accuse the state of not treating them right. Some of these people have spent the last 2 decades living in the same 3 bed that at the booms height was probably worth 400K, and plenty of poor bastards who grew up in Blanch have spent the same two decades commuting daily from Virginia and Mullingar and the like because they couldn't afford to live in these same estates.

    It is absolutely staggering ungratefulness.


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    #1312
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The local blanch lads are already planning revenge. And they are some dangerous heads involved. I am seeing the WhatsApp chats.

    Gardai need to get a grip on this quick.

    Tanked up coked up

    New Years Eve

    What could go wrong


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    #1313
    gary550
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭gary550


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.

    Watch the video yourself

    He has his back turned and then proceeded to swing from the left in the direction of the guards which is when the first shot is fired, then followed by 3 more of which 2 hit (he was still standing). It was only the final shot where he went out of frame and obviously onto the ground.

    From what I can gather it is unequivocally justified.


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    #1314
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    ED E wrote: »
    Do they?

    Armed response unit do, yes.


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    #1315
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    donkey balls wrote: »
    Are you sure about that?

    Pretty sure Irish people are good and running down their own.

    Cannot see the media running the story of the blacks running riot either.

    Hate speech laws incoming to make discussing the problem impossible.


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    #1316
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,224 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    He looks like his back was turned and he was going into the house when they opened fire...that's the way it looks in the video, he came back out then they dropped him with a few shots.
    Unless there was a guard in the house he wasn't running for one..


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    #1317
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I would say there are a lot of fake videos posted on this thread tbh.


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    #1318
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,503 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    KyussB wrote: »
    Current news reports (backed by the video) say that gunshots happened before he swung the knife at any guard.

    Everyone backing the police is stating that this happened the other way around.

    So keep in mind: People defending the police here, are defending initial shots being fired, when there is no evidence of him attempting to attack a guard with the knife beforehand.

    A pretty gigantic/major key part of the story, here.

    Despite the fact that there appears to be a video disproving the above, I don't think anyone should be surprised that the Gardaí forcefully stopped a person acting in a highly threatening manner from entering a dwelling with a knife - especially given what occurred leading up to that moment.


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    #1319
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Backed by video??

    Explain please.

    And what reports?
    I won't post the video as I don't know if it's against the rules here (and shows the mans death), but it's easily found with searching.

    Here is the relevant snippet from the article:
    ...
    A gunshot can be heard before the man in blue is seen swinging his arm towards the officers. ...
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/video-of-fatal-garda-shooting-of-man-in-front-garden-of-dublin-house-to-be-examined-1.4447683?mode=amp


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    #1320
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Tanked up coked up

    New Years Eve

    What could go wrong

    actually that could be scary later on with emotions running so high


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    #1321
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It's a disturbing situation when senior politicians are siding with a man who tried to kill several people and who has a history of extreme violence.

    It's frightening in fact.


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