George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

gypsy79

punisher5112 wrote: »

Hazel Chu can be contacted here....
I will be, disgusting behaviour from such an official..,.

lordmayor@dublincity.ie

Done

_Kaiser_

amacca wrote: »

It just seems like incoherent rambling to me.....is this person an actual doctor/does she have a phD?

I hope she writes a thesis/research paper with higher level of coherence than she speaks in that video....

Not at all .. the intent is very clear. To get out with a spin-laden version of the guy in time for the early news shows on radio and again for the main RTE News bulletins. No doubt her being a regular guest on those bulletins didn't hurt with getting their "new narrative" out

It's actually very dangerous as it targets exactly the same middle Ireland demographic who would have taken the 6PM "report" at face value - not even knowing/caring about social media generally nor the very different reality it showed from the peaceful protest at the Garda Station and "George wouldn't hurt a fly" interview

If you take it at face value from that perspective, coupled with the "media blitz" then it might indeed seem like a tragic accident or unjustified shooting.

Highly dangerous. A couple of decades ago this sort of thing might have been termed propaganda

ElJeffe

punisher5112 wrote: »

I still can't for the life of me understand why people are turning this into a race war which has absolutely nothing to do with it.....

Suppose the shooting the knife or having the knife in front of the courts sounds more reasonable to these folk.....


I really don't want to see Ireland turn into the UK or USA

I'll be honest and it brings me no joy to say it but i think it's too late for that.

Social media and liberalism has turned us all into one big melting pot. These kids/young adults look and act just like the wanna be gangsters in London or NY.

Nationalism and pride in your own country and culture is frowned upon and even referred to as racism by certain sectors.

whisky_galore

drogon. wrote: »

Saw some videos being sent around about the protest. One has them screaming, "No justice, No peace"

Are they serious ? GSOC is investigating the incident and everything will be released in due course. Sounds like they are just stirring this stuff, claiming things are as bad as it is in the US.

Also would like to know, how many of the kids protesting today, their parents came over here claiming asylum. I would say a good 70% or more, they have been given a good life here with housing etc provided and now they chant, "No justice, No peace" ?

Heard that too.

Would one read that as "if we don't get the justice we want, we declare war?"

Not at all helpful.

bilbot79

Hector Savage wrote: »

You give me hope, you are almost awake to the bull**** BLM is , just apply it to the US the same way you do to this incident

Don't get too hopeful. I really do think the police in the USA are more casual with black lives because they can get away with it. I would say some of them think nothing of their lives. But I don't think we have that here.

Sorry to disappoint

oldtimeyfella

punisher5112 wrote: »

Hazel Chu can be contacted here....
I will be, disgusting behaviour from such an official..,.

lordmayor@dublincity.ie

See, this would be a good idea if hard leftists/idpol types didn't regard any and all criticism they receive as "targeted harrassment by the hard right" so that they don't have to address it.

PearseCork92

amacca wrote: »

Oh....do you happen to know what she qualified in? ....based on that video it's hard to believe she's an academic of any standing.

PhD from the School of Social Justice in UCD.

If you hear anyone on the radio talking absolute rope about boilerplate intersectional feminist nonsense, and they have a "Dr." before their name, there's a high chance they've been through that degree mill.

Suckit

Does anyone know
If he had a list of convictions as long as is being mentioned about, how come he was not deported?
Has Ireland actually ever deported somebody for convictions, and if so, what did they do to get deported?

85603

SporadicMan wrote: »

This data is from 2016 and only counts people who actually filled in the cencus form.


Anyone who's actually stepped left their house for a prolonged period of time would probably have to be insane to believe that it's 1.3%.

Well what percentage do you put the Irish-African population at then?

I mean you'll dismiss a census for being 4 years old, but you don't dare put forward a number yourself.

Probably cause it would be a number you pulled from your ass.

Granted the census is 4 years old so lets agree on a whopping 2%.

The 2% Brixton is upon us lads. T'is like Lagos out there.

Mules

Has the video footage been taken down? I saw it earlier but it seems to be gone now.

PearseCork92

titan18 wrote: »

I feel news articles would have mentioned if he was employed somewhere.

Have it on good authority he worked there at some stage. Likely furloughed due to the pandemic if he was still there.

Was also a handy footballer by all accounts if that counts for anything.

Shanotheslayer

PearseCork92 wrote: »

Was also a handy footballer by all accounts if that counts for anything.

I can confirm this

Gatling

Suckit wrote: »

Does anyone know
If he had a list of convictions as long as is being mentioned about, how come he was not deported?
Has Ireland actually ever deported somebody for convictions, and if so, what did they do to get deported?

60/70,000 though dp and we've racked up a massive 1400 deportations in 30 + years .
We've rarely deport criminals including those convicted of serious crimes

drogon.

PearseCork92 wrote: »

Have it on good authority he worked there at some stage. Likely furloughed due to the pandemic if he was still there.

Was also a handy footballer by all accounts if that counts for anything.

Doesn't sound like a person who had any mental health issues then ?

RandomName2

JeffKenna wrote: »

Change the narrative, get information out there about his mental health. This stuff is dangerous.

https://streamable.com/b3qn67

Qualification for citizenship should include a test for basic competency in English.

Drumorig

Lumen wrote: »

I'm not an expert in combat but I'd have thought it would make a big difference in terms of reach and therefore what non lethal options were available. Telescopic baton might be reliable against a knife attacker but not a machete.

More importantly though, why are people repeating "machete" if there's no evidence of it? Does nobody gives a ****e about the facts?

a telescopic baton what if he decided to throw the knife at your head and had good aim. A knife in the eye or a machete splitting your skull wouldn't be good either way...

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

60/70,000 though dp and we've racked up a massive 1400 deportations in 30 + years .
We've rarely deport criminals including those convicted of serious crimes

It's used as an alternative to sentences on occasion. A rare occasion but a smart one if you ask me

touts

Some of the videos on twitter are quote shocking. Gangs roaming parts of Dublin assaulting people today as some form of "protest" and no Gardai to be seen. We have reached a stage where the left wing have put so much fear in the public and the Gardai that violent gangs are allowed to roam free because to stop them would be prorated as racist by the socialist mob.

This is how the racist right rises. When no one officially enforces the law then people take the law into their own hands. We need to put the Gardai riot squad on the streets immediately to crack down on both sets of extremists.

Bonniedog

85603 wrote: »

Well what percentage do you put the Irish-African population at then?

I mean you'll dismiss a census for being 4 years old, but you don't dare put forward a number yourself.

Probably cause it would be a number you pulled from your ass.

Granted the census is 4 years old so lets agree on a whopping 2%.

The 2% Brixton is upon us lads. T'is like Lagos out there.

So by your logic, if there is such a small number, they are certainly punching above their weight when it comes to crime and prison numbers

there are tens of thousands of illegal immigrants here, most of them from the same kip as George. Do you seriously think they fill in Census forms!

Oh, and the state itself admits to not actually knowing how many illegals there are but are amnestying 17,000 names supplied by some NGO!

We are a joke. these people despise us. And they certainly don't have any complex about their origin except when it suits to feign oppression and racism to scame us and hoodwink the idiots who think they are all the Cosby Children.

Venom

drogon. wrote: »

Doesn't sound like a person who had any mental health issues then ?

Well the source of the "mental illness" info also claims the machete was a "butter knife" :rolleyes:

drogon.

drogon. wrote: »

Doesn't sound like a person who had any mental health issues then ?

Plenty of people with mental health issues manage to hold down jobs.

I take 3 tablets every day before I go to work. The key part being that I take the medication.

Gatling

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

It's used as an alternative to sentences on occasion. A rare occasion but a smart one if you ask me

I believe the majority who have been deported in the last few years were Pakistanis breaking student visa requirements

Pa ElGrande

JeffKenna wrote: »

Change the narrative, get information out there about his mental health. This stuff is dangerous.

https://streamable.com/b3qn67

Here is the transcript from that audio clip.

Ebun Joseph wrote:

How can we come up with safe ideas, really important that we not ostracise the same community that we are trying to reach.

So, key thing number one we've talked about is the narrative, a narrative, we want to change the narrative, lets not focus on what we don't know, Let us focus on what we know, unfortunately I can't do a vote here now, but, one of the things that, from this is changing that narrative.

Can we agree to do three media blast, tomorrow, we will come to the protest idea, can we agree to do a media blast? We are not talking about what we don't know let us talk about, Ok, what we know, and we can ue all the channels, that black and Irish have agreed would help, that they would do, you know put out any information out there that we need to put out. The three media blast can be at 8AM, 1PM and 6PM with a #hashtag, so we can decide what hashtag, but it is to humanise, let us start by humanising him. You know if not we will keep being defensive we will be responding to their narrative.

Let us create a new narrative, and the only way we will do that, Protests will not create a new narrative, so let us look at how to use so many angles, so many things, you know to achive the same result, so I don't know are we OK with doing a media blast tomorrow for what we know?, so for example, nation, you know that George (Nkencho) was 27 years old, George was the third child of a family, George you know had mental health issues, we can find some information between now and 8AM and try and put it out they for those of you who've put your numbers out there, but, we can try and use the sme channels we found you to put some of that informtion that can be sent out and then get someone to design, you know like a George Nkencho..(audio terminates).

fredt

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Since when did it become acceptable for mental health to be thrown around as some sort of punchline to try and score points?

New to the last few decades?

Titzon Toast

How can those scumbags running amock today feel justified with with what they are doing?
I've seen pictures of the wounds inflicted on that poor man yesterday.

Why haven't the Gardai broken up the gangs that where battering every white person that had the misfortune of crossing their paths today also?

Hamachi

85603 wrote: »

Well what percentage do you put the Irish-African population at then?

I mean you'll dismiss a census for being 4 years old, but you don't dare put forward a number yourself.

Probably cause it would be a number you pulled from your ass.

Granted the census is 4 years old so lets agree on a whopping 2%.

The 2% Brixton is upon us lads. T'is like Lagos out there.

2% sounds about right to me.

The issue is that the 2% is heavily concentrated in very particular areas. To my eyes (not CSO verified), Dublin 15 is ~10% black / African-origin. Contrast that with North East and South East Dublin, where that demographic is probably < 1% of the population.

I’m not claiming it’s like Brixton, but when too many people from a similar, possibly marginalized background cluster together, it inevitably leads to social problems.

Jinglejangle69

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Since people realised it shuts down all conversation on a topic and instantly makes the person who brought it up "win" the argument.

Her and Lynn Ruanne telling us to kiss their arse for not agreeing with their race bile.

Who the hell do these think they are???

The more I think about it the more I realise, how are all these leftie student types getting into important roles without any of us noticing??

Who voted in Hazel Chu and Lynn Ruanne???

Donald Trump

fredt wrote: »

New to the last few decades?

Wonder if someone claimed that the Guard who fired the shots had some mental illness would they all say "ah that's ok then" and stop their "protests".

oldtimeyfella

Titzon Toast wrote: »

How can those scumbags running amock today feel justified with with what they are doing?

They legitimately believe they are on the right side of this and have numerous politicians and other public figures backing them up in this view.


Welcome to Clown World.

85603

Bonniedog wrote: »

So by your logic, if there is such a small number, they are certainly punching above their weight when it comes to crime and prison numbers

there are tens of thousands of illegal immigrants here, most of them from the same kip as George. Do you seriously think they fill in Census forms!

Oh, and the state itself admits to not actually knowing how many illegals there are but are amnestying 17,000 names supplied by some NGO!

We are a joke. these people despise us. And they certainly don't have any complex about their origin except when it suits to feign oppression and racism to scame us and hoodwink the idiots who think they are all the Cosby Children.

No by my logic we're never going to have anything like the Brixton mentioned by the easily triggered types in here.

And based on the official stats we're not.

Of course official stats aren't going to be enough for you.

So you can triple the number make it 3.9% of our population that is of African origin.

Guess what Einstein, we're still a mile off anything nearly resembling Brixton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Ethnic_groups

Ethnic backgrounds: Irish: 82.2%, Irish Traveller: 0.7%, Other White: 9.5% (total White: 92.4%), Asian: 2.1%, Black: 1.3%, Other: 1.5%, Not Stated: 2.6% (2016)[24]

Science Bitches.