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Single person renting - electricity bill

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  • 01-01-2021 1:53pm
    #1
    Tv2013
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭


    Hi

    does this bill look high or is it normal. Why is standing chare and pso levy so high

    Thanks for any help


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    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    Hi

    does this bill look high or is it normal. Why is standing chare and pso levy so high

    Thanks for any help
    What bill?


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    Smee_Again
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Standing charge and pso levy are fixed and don’t change or depend on usage.


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    shar01
    Registered Users Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.


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    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    shar01 wrote: »
    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.

    Seems normal enough


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    What type of space and water heating do you have, do you have an electric shower, do you use the dryer a lot?


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    Tv2013
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    TheChizler wrote: »
    What type of space and water heating do you have, do you have an electric shower, do you use the dryer a lot?

    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week
    Is the space and water heating electric or something else?

    Just saw the screenshot, doesn't look particularly unusual.


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    Tv2013
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Is the space and water heating electric or something else?

    Just saw the screenshot, doesn't look particularly unusual.

    It electric.

    The standing charge and pso levy when added together is more than usage is what I really can’t understand. I am paying more for that than the electric part


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It electric.

    The standing charge and pso levy when added together is more than usage is what I really can’t understand. I am paying more for that than the electric part
    That's just because your usage is relatively low. Levy is fixed for everyone as is standing charge for the most part.


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    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Have you come to the end of your discount period? I can't see where your discount is being applied. It looks like you've been charged for 3 months pso levy too. From your end, 226 units for 2 months is fantastic there isn't much less you could use.


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    Tv2013
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Have you come to the end of your discount period? I can't see where your discount is being applied. It looks like you've been charged for 3 months pso levy too. From your end, 226 units for 2 months is fantastic there isn't much less you could use.

    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled
    So the first bill was for less than 1 month and this one is for 2, it roughly makes sense.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Looks about right. I switched recently and got an estimated bill for €90 for the 2 months.


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    [Deleted User]
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    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:


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    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:

    Happened in the 09 recession, ESB were taking a huge hit with lots of empty houses, rather than adapt government gave them minimum charges


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,516 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    3.5KWh per days is very average. So yes it’s fine


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    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:


    yeah it is. Though one way to try to reduce the cost for low users of electricity is to try find the cheapest standing charge. When I switched last year standing charges ranged from 128 per year (Glow Power) up to 243 per year (Bord Gais). So if you are a low user of electricity it can often be better to seek out the lowest standing charge rate even if it means paying a high unit cost rate. Its a matter of doing the maths of how many KwH you use a year but for me anyway choosing the lowest standing charge will save me money over the other options.


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    C3PO
    Registered Users Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Looks very cheap for two months - I live on my own (and heat with gas) and my bill is significantly higher than that.


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    magicbastarder
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    shar01 wrote: »
    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.
    per month, or per billing period?


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    Shamboo1801
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Shamboo1801


    Count yourself lucky. My units for the same period was over 800, compared to your 225.


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    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Over 1200 for me... Small wonder energia won't let me leave:D


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    StefanFal
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭StefanFal


    Mine is typically between 200 and 300 a month in Winter. About 120 in summer. That’s inclusive of water and bins.


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    ted1
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    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Over 1200 for me... Small wonder energia won't let me leave:D

    What type heating are you using ? Have you changed your lighting over to LED? Are i you u using the immersion?


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    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    ted1 wrote: »
    What type heating are you using ? Have you changed your lighting over to LED? Are i you u using the immersion?

    Oil heating. CFC bulbs not led. Immersion is isolated at the board, never used. Electric cooker, dishwasher, clothes dryer, the missus puts the clothes on a horse overnight with the dehumidifier in the room, that has reduced dryer time a lot (not the bills though). I use the oil to heat the water in the summer, just for half an hour a day since I got the electric shower. Summer bills are sore enough too I was thinking of asking ESB networks to check the meter as they're very high.


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    A Law
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭A Law


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled



    You signed up with 22.5% discount and 50€ cash back? Could the 50€ have come off the first bill?


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    An Ri rua
    Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    StefanFal wrote: »
    Mine is typically between 200 and 300 a month in Winter. About 120 in summer. That’s inclusive of water and bins.

    What electricity provider also sells you water and bin collection?? None, I imagine.


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    An Ri rua
    Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week

    I'd imagine you'd have wanted the heaters on more in month 3 than month 1. Yes? Months 4&5 and even 6 could be in a similar vein so.


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,516 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Oil heating. CFC bulbs not led. Immersion is isolated at the board, never used. Electric cooker, dishwasher, clothes dryer, the missus puts the clothes on a horse overnight with the dehumidifier in the room, that has reduced dryer time a lot (not the bills though). I use the oil to heat the water in the summer, just for half an hour a day since I got the electric shower. Summer bills are sore enough too I was thinking of asking ESB networks to check the meter as they're very high.

    First thing to do is to replace your bulbs with LED much better lights than CFL.

    Dehumidifiers are very expensive to run. I’d check the model and see how much power it uses. A clothes line in the summer and a tumble dryer could be a much better option. A dehumidifier can use 400 w an hour if it’s in for 8 hours that 3.2kwh a dryer cycle should use less


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    Gooser14
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Also bear in mind the PSO levy increased by 130% from about Eur 34 to 78 p.a. (ex VAT) with effect from 1 Oct 20.


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    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    ted1 wrote: »
    First thing to do is to replace your bulbs with LED much better lights than CFL.

    Dehumidifiers are very expensive to run. I’d check the model and see how much power it uses. A clothes line in the summer and a tumble dryer could be a much better option. A dehumidifier can use 400 w an hour if it’s in for 8 hours that 3.2kwh a dryer cycle should use less

    I found the light from LEDs to be very harsh it's very difficult to find ones that are easy on the eyes. Obviously in the summer we use the clothes line and unplug the dehumidifier. It's a meaco dehumidifier it doesn't run constantly, when the clothes are on the horse we give them a blast of it for an hour on the laundry setting and then put it back to its 55% setting and head for bed. The rated power is 370W The clothes are almost dry in the morning, less than 40 mins in the dryer has them sorted and put away.


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