Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

ClanofLams

Wegians89 wrote: »

McAllister
Murphy
Gallagher
Roux
Papalii?
Kerins
Dean
S Fitz
Bod

Look like they’re all out of contract

DTM
Dunne
Sob
De buitlear
All in 3 year of academy

Need to keep Roux obviously. Cillian Gallagher has a lot of natural attributes but has really struggled with injury.

Papalii has a lot of attributes too, think he is definitely worth a punt for another twelve months if possible.

O’Donnell hasn’t played much but thought he looked decent off the bench recently, I can’t recall against who... Given his injury was known when he arrived would seem a bit strange if he’s. Or given another year.

Seems like DTM would be obvious contract. De Buitlear suffered with long term injury, thought he was good defensively in the few games he got last season and always like to see indigenous players succeed but not sure there will be room for him.

Have a lot of Centre options may cost SOB? I haven’t seen much of him or Dunne.

ClanofLams

Wegians89 wrote: »

Connacht said contract negotiations are still on going and further announcements to be made in due course, hopefully that’d be roux.

Roux seems like a player who would thrive in France, must be some clubs in with substantial offers but hopefully he sticks around.

RonnieL

Hopefully Roux is just playing hardball on the contract, but with the South African teams getting added to the league, maybe a move to one of those teams wouldn't be out of the question. Fingers crossed he stays.

KBurke85

Dubinusa wrote: »

I think Gallagher would be a good pick up for another province! He would be relatively cheap. Shame about Stephen Fitz. I thought he would have been a cracking player.

Not all negotiations are finished yet. Still a chance one or both is kept on.

realhorrorshow

Loosehead

Denis Buckley (31) - Signed contract in 2021
Matthew Burke (24) - Signed contract in 2021
Jordan Duggan (23) - Signed contract in 2021
Paddy McAllister (32) - Signed contract in 2019

Charlie Ward (21) - Academy year 1

Tighthead

Jack Aungier (22) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Finlay Bealham (30) - Signed contract in 2021
Conor Kenny (25) - Signed 1 year contract in 2020
Dominic Robertson-McCoy (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Hooker

Shane Delahunt (27) - Signed contract in 2021
Dave Heffernan (30) - Signed contract in 2021
Jonny Murphy (29) - Signed contract in 2018

Declan Adamson (22) - Academy year 2
Eoin De Buitléar (u21) - Academy year 1
Dylan Tierney-Martin (22) - Academy year 3

Lock

Ultan Dillane (27) - Signed contract in 2021
Oisin Dowling (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Cillian Gallagher (24) - Signed contract in 2018
Niall Murray (21) - Signed contract in 2021
Quinn Roux (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Gavin Thornbury (27) - Signed contract in 2021

Darragh Murray (u21) - Academy year 1

Back row

Paul Boyle (24) - Signed contract in 2021
Jarrad Butler (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Eoghan Masterson (28) - Signed contract in 2021
Sean Masterson (23) - Signed contract in 2021
Sean O'Brien (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Conor Oliver (25) - Signed contract in 2021
Abraham Papali’i (28) - Signed contract in 2020
Cian Prendergast (21) - Signed contract in 2021

Ciaran Booth (21) - Academy year 1
Donnacha Byrne (u21) - Academy year 1
Hubert Costello (u21) - Academy year 1
Joshua Dunne (21) - Academy year 3
Oisin McCormack (20) - Academy year 2

Scrumhalf

Caolin Blade (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Stephen Kerins (25) - Signed contract in 2019
Kieran Marmion (29) - Signed 3 year contract in 2020
Colm Reilly (22) - Signed contract in 2021

Outhalf

Jack Carty (29) - Signed contract in 2021
Conor Dean (23) - Signed contract in 2020
Conor Fitzgerald (23) - Signed contract in 2021

Cathal Forde (20) - Academy year 1

Centre

Bundee Aki (29) - Signed 3 year central contract in 2020
Sammy Arnold (25) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Tom Daly (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Tom Farrell (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Peter Robb (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Shane Jennings (20) - Academy year 2
Sean O'Brien (23) - Academy year 3

Back 3

Stephen Fitzgerald (25) - Signed contract in 2019
Matt Healy (32) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Oran McNulty (21) - Signed contract in 2021
Ben O'Donnell (26) - Signed contract in 2020
Tiernan O'Halloran (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
John Porch (27) - Signed contract in 2021
Peter Sullivan (23) - Signed contract in 2021
Alex Wootton (27) - Signed contract in 2021

Colm de Buitléar (23) - Academy year 3
Diarmuid Kilgallen (21) - Academy year 1


*ages as at 01/09/2021

Bazzo

Wegians89 wrote: »

Papalii and bod are two I think we’re on one year deals. Was Arnold one or two?

Arnold, dowling and aungier all signed two year deals

Can't imagine O'Donnell was a 1 year deal when he was due to miss a chunk of it with a torn ACL?

realhorrorshow

Definitely out of contract

Conor Kenny (25) - Tighthead
Quinn Roux (30) - Lock

Probably out of contract - signed deal of unannounced length in 2019

Paddy McAllister (32) - Loosehead
Stephen Kerins (25) - Scrumhalf
Stephen Fitzgerald (25) - Back 3

Possibly out of contract - signed deal of unannounced length in 2020

Abraham Papali’i (28) - Back row
Conor Dean (23) - Outhalf
Ben O'Donnell (26) - Back 3

Possibly out of contract - no announcement since 2018

Jonny Murphy (29) - Hooker
Cillian Gallagher (24) - Lock

Academy year 3

Dylan Tierney-Martin (22) - Hooker
Joshua Dunne (21) - Back row
Sean O'Brien (23) - Centre
Colm de Buitléar (23) - Back 3

Bazzo

With Matthew Burke being renewed I'd guess McAllister might be moving on.

Squidgy Black

Bazzo wrote: »

Can't imagine O'Donnell was a 1 year deal when he was due to miss a chunk of it with a torn ACL?

Yeah I'd be shocked if BOD was signed on a one year deal considering it was pretty well known that he'd be missing for most of 2020 still recovering from an injury he got in August 2019.

freyners

Bazzo wrote: »

With Matthew Burke being renewed I'd guess McAllister might be moving on.

Duggan looked v good vs cardiff imo and burke is developing nicely so hard to see how they maintain four seniors lhs. Would be a pity because outside of the card against ulster he has been a good performer in most games imo

Bazzo

freyners wrote: »

Duggan looked v good vs cardiff imo and burke is developing nicely so hard to see how they maintain four seniors lhs. Would be a pity because outside of the card against ulster he has been a good performer in most games imo

Yeah he's been good, but I think he was signed on a decent wedge with the idea he would be 1st choice but Buckley has seen him off comfortably enough in the end, and Duggan coming up behind has bags of potential.

Certainly never put much of a foot wrong and it was great to have both himself and Buckley.

Wegians89

Bazzo wrote: »

Yeah he's been good, but I think he was signed on a decent wedge with the idea he would be 1st choice but Buckley has seen him off comfortably enough in the end, and Duggan coming up behind has bags of potential.

Certainly never put much of a foot wrong and it was great to have both himself and Buckley.

I’m sure burke would be considerable cheaper than McAllister, and I would personally have Duggan as second choice next season so would make sense.

Would be concerned for Stephan Fitz future is bod is contracted for next year. Thought it would potentially be a shoot out between the pair of them for a spot

Wegians89

Boyle confirming he signed a two year deal on Twitter. Carty and Bealham only signed a year extension

connachta

Wegians89 wrote: »

McAllister
Murphy
Gallagher
Roux
Papalii?
Kerins
Dean
S Fitz
Bod

Look like they’re all out of contract

DTM
Dunne
Sob
De buitlear
All in 3 year of academy

I might be "chocking" but Roux is a pen machine, constantly injured, 30+, and probably on high money.
He's international for a reason of course, but it may not be a bad call all in all.
Have to find a lock though, with both him and Gallagher not re-signed.
Maybe it could change before July though, half of the season left, this specific year...

testtech05

connachta wrote: »

I might be "chocking" but Roux is a pen machine, constantly injured, 30+, and probably on high money.
He's international for a reason of course, but it may not be a bad call all in all.
Have to find a lock though, with both him and Gallagher not re-signed.
Maybe it could change before July though, half of the season left, this specific year...

I thought Roux had one of his best seasons this season in the games he played. Was leading well and his discipline seemed much improved. I'm really hoping he is one of the ones still in discussions and a deal can be done

thomond2006

Are Connacht doing a Leinster and not announcing contract lengths anymore?

ShineyShiney

testtech05 wrote: »

I thought Roux had one of his best seasons this season in the games he played. Was leading well and his discipline seemed much improved. I'm really hoping he is one of the ones still in discussions and a deal can be done

First name on the team sheet every week for me. I'd be very disappointed if he left.

SqueakyKneecap

thomond2006 wrote: »

Are Connacht doing a Leinster and not announcing contract lengths anymore?

I think so but they've done it for a couple of years. Usually the media that end up reporting the lengths.

KBurke85

Buckley has confirmed he’s signed for two years

Wegians89

SqueakyKneecap wrote: »

I think so but they've done it for a couple of years. Usually the media that end up reporting the lengths.

I find it’s usually the players on social media

connachta

Maybe Roux isn't on the list because a central contract to RWC 2023 is about to be announced by IFRU

Bazzo

Bealham and Masterson Sr just one year per social media. Thornley mentioned Carty was just one year in the times a few weeks back too.

realhorrorshow

thomond2006 wrote: »

Are Connacht doing a Leinster and not announcing contract lengths anymore?

It's always been a bit of a mixed bag, if you look at the list I posted the players with specified contract lengths were all officially announced. Then a couple haven't been mentioned since 2018. This is the first time we've announced them Leinster style, usually they come out in drips and drabs.

ClanofLams

Is there a logic behind not announcing contract length? Only thing I can guess is might reduce media speculation but sure agent will obviously leak if they want to drum up interest.

thomond2006

ClanofLams wrote: »

Is there a logic behind not announcing contract length? Only thing I can guess is might reduce media speculation but sure agent will obviously leak if they want to drum up interest.

I remember an old Munster video where Garrett Fitzgerald (RIP) discussed how recruitment works. He mentioned that teams will just contact agents to find out if players are out of contract. I'm not sure it matters whether contract lengths are in the media or not.

ClanofLams

thomond2006 wrote: »

I remember an old Munster video where Garrett Fitzgerald (RIP) discussed how recruitment works. He mentioned that teams will just contact agents to find out if players are out of contract. I'm not sure it matters where contract lengths are in the media or not.

I would have thought same, seems strange to be so guarded with the info but there is obviously some logic at work.

Maybe it’s some sort of privacy thing as players are obviously free to announce themselves.

Squidgy Black

ClanofLams wrote: »

I would have thought same, seems strange to be so guarded with the info but there is obviously some logic at work.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the whole gdpr side of things like similar to injury updates where a player can choose to withhold the info.

ClanofLams

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Wonder if it has anything to do with the whole gdpr side of things like similar to injury updates where a player can choose to withhold the info.

Yeah just edited above to say that. Guess it is as players can announce themselves it seems.

thomond2006

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Wonder if it has anything to do with the whole gdpr side of things like similar to injury updates where a player can choose to withhold the info.

I wouldn't think so, since the IRFU announce contract lengths regardless of the player's home province. Healy and Sexton's contracts were confirmed as one year deals. This seems to be a policy by province on their own contracts.

Squidgy Black

thomond2006 wrote: »

I wouldn't think so, since the IRFU announce contract lengths regardless of the player's home province. Healy and Sexton's contracts were confirmed as one year deals. This seems to be a policy by province on their own contracts.

Yeah I dunno. Edinburgh do the same thing as Leinster, their announcement for Jamie Ritchie's extension saying it was the longest contract in club history but not disclosing the actual length of it was bizarre.

Initially was gonna say maybe it's because the IRFU is government funded so direct contracts would have to be public knowledge, but sure by that logic salaries for the contract would have to be published so that's not it either.