Archbishop calls on RTÉ to remove 'blasphemous' clip

03-01-2021 1:22am

breezy1985 wrote: »

Above is the bit you just cant seem to grasp and it goes a long way to explaining why you dont get satire. A defender of the church crying because you think other people are trying to"Force their viewpoint on you"when that has been the churches M.O. since the year dot

So what, they are fairly uninfluential now.

If you want you can try oppose ideologies that are pertinent today.

breezy1985 wrote: »

No relevance to Ireland really.

We have been over this one on the first page and a million times since

Well there are muslims in Ireland. And being a minority religion doesn't protect Catholicism in the UK ( see Hitchens and Dawkins etc etc etc etc).

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 1:23am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well there are muslims in Ireland. And being a minority religion doesn't protect Catholicism in the UK ( see Hitchens and Dawkins etc etc etc etc).

Does the BBC lampoon Catholics on a regular basis?

03-01-2021 1:25am

one world order wrote: »

Whether you choose to deny God or accept him, you will still have to face God's judgement. Trying to suppress God because of what man did won't stop God's wrath on all those that deny him.

But God has decided this before we were born anyway, so what can we do?

It wasnt me123 · 03-01-2021 1:26am

one world order wrote: »

Whether you choose to deny God or accept him, you will still have to face God's judgement. Trying to suppress God because of what man did won't stop God's wrath on all those that deny him.

What a load of rot -- pity your god doesn't bring his judgement on all the religious that sexually and physically abused children and the vulnerable.

Seems he only brings his wrath for the non relgious. I don't believe and I care not a jot that some randomer who believes in sky fairies was upset over satire (good or bad) on tv.

Build yourself a bridge .....

03-01-2021 1:27am

o1s1n wrote: »

Does the BBC lampoon Catholics on a regular basis?

Hitchens and Dawkins never stopped.

The hysteria about a dead organisation in Ireland is somewhat hard to understand, but I think it comes from that part of the Irish psyche which was uncomfortable with Irish independence. This narrative has dominated for a few generations now.

one world order · 03-01-2021 1:32am

o1s1n wrote: »

People who don't believe in the great genocidal magical sky fairy tend to also not believe in his day of judgement...

That's a decision you made and your entitled to it. God gave us all free will to either follow him or reject him.

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 1:35am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hitchens and Dawkins never stopped.

The hysteria about a dead organisation in Ireland is somewhat hard to understand, but I think it comes from that part of the Irish psyche which was uncomfortable with Irish independence. This narrative has dominated for a few generations now.

Hitchens and Dawkins are hardly representatives of the BBC though, sure Hitchens is gone years now too.

I can't think of anything on the BBC making fun of Catholics in recent memory at all.

I suppose the elephant in the room is the fact that, out of the three abrahamic religions, Christianity is the only one that won't potentially have you killed or imprisoned for mocking it.

'Turn the other cheek" and all that!

one world order · 03-01-2021 1:39am

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

What a load of rot -- pity your god doesn't bring his judgement on all the religious that sexually and physically abused children and the vulnerable.

Seems he only brings his wrath for the non relgious. I don't believe and I care not a jot that some randomer who believes in sky fairies was upset over satire (good or bad) on tv.

Build yourself a bridge .....

I already have my bridge, Jesus is the only way our sins can be forgiven and we be made right with God.

It's not up to God to bring judgement while we are in this world, the time of judgement is the same for everyone when our spirit leaves the physical body in death.

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 1:39am

one world order wrote: »

That's a decision you made and your entitled to it. God gave us all free will to either follow him or reject him.

'follow me, or die' is not free will - it's a threat.

one world order · 03-01-2021 1:43am

o1s1n wrote: »

'follow me, or die' is not free will - it's a threat.

Why would you choose to reject God? He brings internal peace and happiness in a world controlled by Satan that tries to deceive, kill and destroy.

Cilldara_2000 · 03-01-2021 1:45am

one world order wrote: »

Why would you choose to reject God? He brings internal peace and happiness in a world controlled by Satan that tries to deceive, kill and destroy.

Which god?

breezy1985 · 03-01-2021 1:49am

one world order wrote: »

Why would you choose to reject God? He brings internal peace and happiness in a world controlled by Satan that tries to deceive, kill and destroy.

You cant reject what is not real

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 1:50am

one world order wrote: »

Why would you choose to reject God? He brings internal peace and happiness in a world controlled by Satan that tries to deceive, kill and destroy.

I have internal peace and happiness without him.

I also can go one further and have zero of the shame associated with a religious life too.

You really should try giving atheism a go, it's great!

And think of it this way, you're already an atheist, you don't believe in 99.9% of fake god's as is. Just add that fake Christian Jehovah god lad to the list too and you're there

Fast Twitch · 03-01-2021 2:01am

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Which god?

The one true God.

Fast Twitch · 03-01-2021 2:03am

breezy1985 wrote: »

You cant reject what is not real

That's very true.

Social media, wealth, it's all just noise. Not real like our immortal souls. Some can't reject what is not real. You're so right.

Cilldara_2000 · 03-01-2021 2:04am

Fast Twitch wrote: »

The one true God.

But there are so many how can you tell which is the one true god?

one world order · 03-01-2021 2:05am

o1s1n wrote: »

I have internal peace and happiness without him.

I also can go one further and have zero of the shame associated with a religious life too.

You really should try giving atheism a go, it's great!

And think of it this way, you're already an atheist, you don't believe in 99.9% of fake god's as is. Just add that fake Christian Jehovah god lad to the list too and you're there

Okay, but I certainly would not like to be in your shoes. I know where your heading and it is not something I would wish on anybody.

Fast Twitch · 03-01-2021 2:05am

o1s1n wrote: »

I have internal peace and happiness without him.

I also can go one further and have zero of the shame associated with a religious life too.

You really should try giving atheism a go, it's great!

And think of it this way, you're already an atheist, you don't believe in 99.9% of fake god's as is. Just add that fake Christian Jehovah god lad to the list too and you're there

With a hedonistic avatar like that? You can pretend you're happy..but are you really?

I respect your beliefs. However, as a GP, i see the fear in men's eyes before they die. Aetheists have it too.

Suckit · 03-01-2021 2:09am

I mentioned similar to this in the Religion thread (before I realised it was that forum) - I can see Predictable Dave McSavage trying to get a reaction with something similar now that it's been done. He likely won't get the RTE airtime for it now, but will probably try another tiresome whatsapp viral video. He's probably looking for some 'new' material at this stage anyway..

Fast Twitch · 03-01-2021 2:11am

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

But there are so many how can you tell which is the one true god?

Yahweh has revealed himself through millenia. His 10 commandments.

He doesn't look for baby killing sacrifices like pagan Gods. It's pretty easy to see the one true God.

oldtimeyfella · 03-01-2021 2:12am

I think this clip should be removed from history because it is monumentally unfunny.

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 2:15am

one world order wrote: »

Okay, but I certainly would not like to be in your shoes. I know where your heading and it is not something I would wish on anybody.

I find it rather amazing that you know where I'm heading, do you have a direct line to the creator himself or are you judging me by my actions?

If the latter, do remember Matthew 7:1-3.

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 2:16am

Fast Twitch wrote: »

With a hedonistic avatar like that? You can pretend you're happy..but are you really?

I respect your beliefs. However, as a GP, i see the fear in men's eyes before they die. Aetheists have it too.

People's avatars express their level of happiness? That's a new one to me. I also fail to see what is hedonistic about a bloody nose.

Everyone fears their inevitable death, I never said otherwise.

o1s1n · 03-01-2021 2:19am

Fast Twitch wrote: »

He doesn't look for baby killing sacrifices like pagan Gods. It's pretty easy to see the one true God.

Psalm 137:9 would like to respectfully disagree with you.

Hotblack Desiato · 03-01-2021 3:03am

joseywhales wrote: »

I call on the taxpayer to pay the catholic church for hundreds of years of literacy, recording of history and being a steward to the Irish republican identity, where otherwise we were destined to endless servitude and penal laws.

Also for preserving important classical texts as well as social care and health care for hundreds of years. What do you think that's worth?

The church was well paid for all of the above, how do you think they have so much wealth?

Teachers' salaries and school running costs have been paid by the state ever since the 19th century, it's why they are called "national schools". Hospitals the same, they were funded by local authorities and then later the health boards.

The RCC got a payment from the state for every woman entering a mother and baby home, every unfortunate infant living there and for every even more unfortunate child committed to an industrial school.

The RCC owns billions of euros worth of property in Ireland alone.

Read your history. RCC opposed Irish republicanism right up until the point it looked like they would win. Post-famine the British saw the RCC as a means to pacify Ireland, they even helped to pay for the building of Maynooth seminary.

Hotblack Desiato · 03-01-2021 3:05am

Deleted User wrote: »

Hitchens and Dawkins never stopped.

The hysteria about a dead organisation in Ireland is somewhat hard to understand, but I think it comes from that part of the Irish psyche which was uncomfortable with Irish independence. This narrative has dominated for a few generations now.

Dead organisation?

Tried to enrol a child in school lately? In a lot of places you'll find your options are Catholic, Catholic and Catholic.

.anon. · 03-01-2021 3:39am

one world order wrote: »

Okay, but I certainly would not like to be in your shoes. I know where your heading and it is not something I would wish on anybody.

If there's one thing worse than the tiresome atheists who make sneering remarks about 'sky fairies', it's religious fundamentalists who don't understand the difference between knowledge and belief.

breezy1985 · 03-01-2021 10:12am

Fast Twitch wrote: »

With a hedonistic avatar like that? You can pretend you're happy..but are you really?

I respect your beliefs. However, as a GP, i see the fear in men's eyes before they die. Aetheists have it too.

If my GP spent his day talking about ghosts and demons and souls the way you do I would report him to the HSE.

breezy1985 · 03-01-2021 10:14am

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

The church was well paid for all of the above, how do you think they have so much wealth?

Teachers' salaries and school running costs have been paid by the state ever since the 19th century, it's why they are called "national schools". Hospitals the same, they were funded by local authorities and then later the health boards.

The RCC got a payment from the state for every woman entering a mother and baby home, every unfortunate infant living there and for every even more unfortunate child committed to an industrial school.

The RCC owns billions of euros worth of property in Ireland alone.

Read your history. RCC opposed Irish republicanism right up until the point it looked like they would win. Post-famine the British saw the RCC as a means to pacify Ireland, they even helped to pay for the building of Maynooth seminary.

And don't forget the money they got from human trafficking of infants

Zebra3 · 03-01-2021 10:50am

Have any of the so-called Christians offended by that short clip actually read the bible?

Or are they too busy worshipping their genocidal maniac?

Archbishop calls on RTÉ to remove 'blasphemous' clip

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