Archbishop calls on RTÉ to remove 'blasphemous' clip

Movementarian

Love the way that being offended these days gives people a sense that they are entitled to some sort of recompense.

Also, does anyone else find it highly ironic that the Christian/Catholic religion preaches forgiveness and turning the other cheek as almost its highest principle?

But when it comes to stuff like this and other people living their lives the way they want, burn them all!!!!

Get on with living your lives the way you want and leave others to do the same. And don't be a bollox. Simple as.

Movementarian

Alfred123 wrote: »

= at last, some common sense. We evolved just as we do physically. Certainly, there are dark periods in the history of Catholicism in Ireland but it is madness to forget / scorn all the selfless, hard work of the men and women who devoted their lives to others in service within the church

All they had was their Faith

Something i guess for future generations of Irish people to ridicule and make fun of. Tragic stuff indeed looking for the "right" to belittle them

You are laughing at yourselves

Hang on a second, 'some dark periods'....some dark periods?! You throw that in like its just some throw away thing and wasn't mass child rape, the destruction of peoples lives and the loss and death of children, women and men over years and years because of some barbaric doctrine.
On the absolute contrary, it is very very easy for me to forget any good in the light of one of those scandals let alone the multitude of these crimes against humanity.

omegaodie

A lot of complaining about the Catholic Church, or its malign influence, but how about me, Im not a priest or headbanger and hearing this kind of crap hurts my feelings, quite a bit, it's a **** you it's hate and it hurts to be hated and maybe I should just get over it and stop being a wee little pussy, but ffs remember when you're having a go there's people you never met that don't mean you no harm whose day you're en****tening.

omegaodie

omegaodie wrote: »

A lot of complaining about the Catholic Church, or its malign influence, but how about me, Im not a priest or headbanger and hearing this kind of crap hurts my feelings, quite a bit, it's a **** you it's hate and it hurts to be hated and maybe I should just get over it and stop being a wee little pussy, but ffs remember when you're having a go there's people you never met that don't mean you no harm whose day you're en****tening.

"I want to censor everything which offends me, have everybody else yield to my belief system which obviously is superior to all others and therefore must be regarded as the only correct one".

Fast Twitch

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

What a load of tosh - who are you to say something is abnormal?
You are just making homophobic comments - you catholic curtain twitchers need to mind your own business - what consenting adults do is their business not yours.

You obviously don’t have a problem with the gay priests and paedophiles? You are worried about Pride march but religious sexually interfering with children is ok?

This thread is about a clip on tv - it wasn’t overtly funny but why do we have to give space to these old men who hid years of physical and sexual abuse of minors to moan about something on tv that they don’t agree with?

Just turn over

Anyone who uses the word 'tosh' wants a wedgie.

joseywhales

Deleted User wrote: »

"I want to censor everything which offends me, have everybody else yield to my belief system which obviously is superior to all others and therefore must be regarded as the only correct one".

Where is this quote from?

Fast Twitch

Smee_Again wrote: »

It’s a great point. There’s always a risk of being offended when watching TV, if one isn’t ready or prepared to be offended one shouldn’t watch TV.

You're a serious lightweight posing as some sort of guru of knowledge. Go play with your Lego.

buckwheat

One from Ricky Gervais which sums up what I think about it. Apologies if already posted

Please stop saying "You can't joke about anything anymore". You can. You can joke about whatever the **** you like. And some people won't like it and they will tell you they don't like it. And then it's up to you whether you give a **** or not. And so on. It's a good system.

Smee_Again

Fast Twitch wrote: »

You're a serious lightweight posing as some sort of guru of knowledge. Go play with your Lego.

Maybe we should just ban being offended.

Much easier to do that.

Alfred123

Movementarian wrote: »

Hang on a second, 'some dark periods'....some dark periods?! You throw that in like its just some throw away thing and wasn't mass child rape, the destruction of peoples lives and the loss and death of children, women and men over years and years because of some barbaric doctrine.
On the absolute contrary, it is very very easy for me to forget any good in the light of one of those scandals let alone the multitude of these crimes against humanity.

Stop gettinn your knickers in a twist, willya !

Catholicism has been in Ireland since the 5th century. We did not have 15 centuries of child rape, if thats what youre implying

Do a lil bit of research before you swing that pen

If youre Irish and are so grievously unhappy with what your forbears have given you, might be worth havin an oul chat with the therapist. They do help

They didnt have wi-fi and puters, radios, tv back when. They built with their bare hands. Their engine was their Faith. You make it sound like 15 centuries of Christians were out molesting kids. Get a grip

breezy1985

Alfred123 wrote: »

Stop gettinn your knickers in a twist, willya !

Catholicism has been in Ireland since the 5th century. We did not have 15 centuries of child rape, if thats what youre implying

Do a lil bit of research before you swing that pen

If youre Irish and are so grievously unhappy with what your forbears have given you, might be worth havin an oul chat with the therapist. They do help

They didnt have wi-fi and puters, radios, tv back when. They built with their bare hands. Their engine was their Faith. You make it sound like 15 centuries of Christians were out molesting kids. Get a grip

Do you have any proof there wasn't 15 centuries of rape ?

newmember2

Alfred123 wrote: »

Stop gettinn your knickers in a twist, willya !

Catholicism has been in Ireland since the 5th century. We did not have 15 centuries of child rape, if thats what youre implying..

Paedophilia is a modern invention is it?

Alfred123

So .. 15 centuries of Sodomy and Begorrah ..

.. i'm tellin ye lads, theres help out there for ye !

PS. .. if ye drop a 50 on the street, im guessin ye won't be bendin over to pick it up
Lols

breezy1985

Alfred123 wrote: »

So .. 15 centuries of Sodomy and Begorrah ..

.. i'm tellin ye lads, theres help out there for ye !

PS. .. if ye drop a 50 on the street, im guessin ye won't be bendin over to pick it up
Lols

Ease up on the drink kid

Acosta

joseywhales wrote: »

4.) Post partition, when the newly formed state was in tatters, a delicate third world country. The state relied on the catholic church to perform functions in education and healthcare, that it could not otherwise have covered. This continued for decades. The church was I'll equipped and lacking the training and personnel to provide a good educational environment but they did it because they were the only ones willing to do it that we could afford. The many thousands of nuns christian brothers and priests who managed these services and lived very simple lives without much compensation, without children to support, should not be forgotten because of the tragedies that occured. Those decades of servitude with inflation could be valued in trillions.

If they did some good then that's fair enough. I'm sure there's many that grew up valuing the churches role in their eduction. But I don't think that makes up for the damage they did to so many peoples lives with their overbearing influence in both eduction, healthcare and society in general. And going back to the original point, whatever good that came out of their presence in Ireland doesn't for a second mean their victims should not be compensated.

Movementarian

Movementarian wrote: »

Love the way that being offended these days gives people a sense that they are entitled to some sort of recompense.

Also, does anyone else find it highly ironic that the Christian/Catholic religion preaches forgiveness and turning the other cheek as almost its highest principle?

But when it comes to stuff like this and other people living their lives the way they want, burn them all!!!!

Get on with living your lives the way you want and leave others to do the same. And don't be a bollox. Simple as.

This was made with the sole purpose of causing offence. I'm not RC so don't need to defend them.

How would you feel about me going out of my way to purposefully offend you. I'm sure there's something close to you that can be offended and upset you.
Perhaps I should just accuse you or one of your family of rape. I'm sure you wouldn't mind

suicide_circus

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

I find that deeply offensive and insulting to my faith, rang up Bridie over the road and she furiously nodded down the phone. Good parishioner that Bridie, even closer to God than I. Better go out of my way to advertise my disgust, starting with Joe Duffy on Monday afternoon. I'll control you heathens yet, just you wait and see.

breezy1985

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I find that deeply offensive and insulting to my faith, rang up Bridie over the road and she furiously nodded down the phone. Good parishioner that Bridie, even closer to God than I. Better go out of my way to advertise my disgust, starting with Joe Duffy on Monday afternoon. I'll control you heathens yet, just you wait and see.

Careful now

Acosta

I assume Joe Duffy is on his Christmas holidays? This would have made for a great liveline

Cluedo Monopoly

Was Mary given a choice by God before he impregnated her? I cannot remember the story.

Odhinn

Acosta wrote: »

I assume Joe Duffy is on his Christmas holidays? This would have made for a great liveline

I'd rather do a few laps backwards around lough derg on me knees than put meself through that.....

Acosta

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Was Mary given a choice by God before he impregnated her? I cannot remember the story.

If you hear noises tonight when you're in bed, don't be frightened. It's the sound of God trying to enter your life

TheRiverman

As I posted on another thread, Archbishop Martin and the other complainers probably never heard of Waterford Whispers until this sketch was broadcast on RTE. I doubt very much if any of them are followers on Twitter or know that it is satire.

breezy1985

TheRiverman wrote: »

As I posted on another thread, Archbishop Martin and the other complainers probably never heard of Waterford Whispers until this sketch was broadcast on RTE. I doubt very much if any of them are followers on Twitter or know that it is satire.

They cant be that stupid

Fast Twitch

buckwheat wrote: »

One from Ricky Gervais which sums up what I think about it. Apologies if already posted

Please stop saying "You can't joke about anything anymore". You can. You can joke about whatever the **** you like. And some people won't like it and they will tell you they don't like it. And then it's up to you whether you give a **** or not. And so on. It's a good system.

Ricky Gervais. Great lad.

His belly and arse are nearly as big as his ego.

Fast Twitch

TheRiverman wrote: »

As I posted on another thread, Archbishop Martin and the other complainers probably never heard of Waterford Whispers until this sketch was broadcast on RTE. I doubt very much if any of them are followers on Twitter or know that it is satire.

The world renowned Waterford Whispers... imagine not hearing of that cutting edge comedy.

Fast Twitch

All the usual bitter anti Christian, anti Catholic suspects out.

Any excuse to prove how smart they are. Cue 100s of references to Fr. Ted. Look it was funny but it finished up a quarter of a century ago. And isn't that fcuking funny.

All the usual freedom of speech tools. No you can say what you like.

You can't call gay people ******s.. it's homophobic. Likewise any of you who are inducted into a job know there are 9 grounds of discrimination. One of these is religion. Belittling a person's core beliefs is just a form of bullying. Live and let live.

But you all want to trip over yourselves to be 'cool'. An archbishop has every bit as much right to speak as Panti Bliss, Jedward, Dr. Ciara Kelly etc

Cluedo Monopoly

Fast Twitch wrote: »

All the usual bitter anti Christian, anti Catholic suspects out.

Any excuse to prove how smart they are. Cue 100s of references to Fr. Ted. Look it was funny but it finished up a quarter of a century ago. And isn't that fcuking funny.

All the usual freedom of speech tools. No you can say what you like.

You can't call gay people ******s.. it's homophobic. Likewise any of you who are inducted into a job know there are 9 grounds of discrimination. One of these is religion. Belittling a person's core beliefs is just a form of bullying. Live and let live.

But you all want to trip over yourselves to be 'cool'. An archbishop has every bit as much right to speak as Panti Bliss, Jedward, Dr. Ciara Kelly etc

Are you always this angry?

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

The world renowned Waterford Whispers... imagine not hearing of that cutting edge comedy.

Probably more reading it every week than there are reading publications put out by the church every week

Fast Twitch

6-9 generations back people died for their faith.

It's a whole lot more character and courage than most of ye could muster. Their faith carried them through the most horrendous of times.

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

All the usual bitter anti Christian, anti Catholic suspects out.

Any excuse to prove how smart they are. Cue 100s of references to Fr. Ted. Look it was funny but it finished up a quarter of a century ago. And isn't that fcuking funny.

All the usual freedom of speech tools. No you can say what you like.

You can't call gay people ******s.. it's homophobic. Likewise any of you who are inducted into a job know there are 9 grounds of discrimination. One of these is religion. Belittling a person's core beliefs is just a form of bullying. Live and let live.

But you all want to trip over yourselves to be 'cool'. An archbishop has every bit as much right to speak as Panti Bliss, Jedward, Dr. Ciara Kelly etc

Pretty bitter post.


No one has stopped the archbishop from speaking by the way or calling for him to be censored

Fast Twitch

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably more reading it every week than there are reading publications put out by the church every week

I doubt that on Worldwide basis. I'd say WW is huge in Sth America and Africa, South East Asia.

Talk about a stupid post. There are a billion Catholics in the world. You think WW has that reach?

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

6-9 generations back people died for their faith.

It's a whole lot more character and courage than most of ye could muster. Their faith carried them through the most horrendous of times.

6 - 9 generations back people died for their atheism too.
And often at the hands of those courageous soldiers of christ


Also I bet you are not as brave as people from 6 generations ago either so whats your point exactly

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I doubt that on Worldwide basis. I'd say WW is huge in Sth America and Africa, South East Asia.

Talk about a stupid post. There are a billion Catholics in the world. You think WW has that reach?

In Ireland obviously.


Didnt think Ide have to point that out but I forgot I was dealing with people who believe in ghosts and magic spells

theguzman

In the interests of fairness and equality will RTE will be running "a satire sketch" on the Pedophile Muhammad next week? Didn't think so either.

breezy1985

theguzman wrote: »

In the interests of fairness and equality will RTE will be running "a satire sketch" on the Pedophile Muhammad next week? Didn't think so either.

No relevance to Ireland really.


We have been over this one on the first page and a million times since

Fast Twitch

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Are you always this angry?

There's nothing wrong with anger when you're dealing with people who want to bully. Force their viewpoint on you.

Tell you NO you don't have the right to feel offended because I say so.

But LBGTQ have the right to be offended. People telling you they pick and choose who can and cannot be offended.

Anglican man who really saw the amount of small minded people in this country when the pope visited in 2018. Active campaign to boycott.

I'm angry this evening and very occasionally. But these anti Christians are BITTER.

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with anger when you're dealing with people who want to bully. Force their viewpoint on you.

Tell you NO you don't have the right to feel offended because I say so.

But LBGTQ have the right to be offended. People telling you they pick and choose who can and cannot be offended.

Anglican man who really saw the amount of small minded people in this country when the pope visited in 2018. Active campaign to boycott.

I'm angry this evening and very occasionally. But these anti Christians are BITTER.

Above is the bit you just cant seem to grasp and it goes a long way to explaining why you dont get satire. A defender of the church crying because you think other people are trying to"Force their viewpoint on you"when that has been the churches M.O. since the year dot

Fast Twitch

breezy1985 wrote: »

6 - 9 generations back people died for their atheism too.
And often at the hands of those courageous soldiers of christ


Also I bet you are not as brave as people from 6 generations ago either so whats your point exactly

As you mentioned in a later post this is Ireland. A whole lot more died for their faith than atheism here.

The archbishop was right to represent his people. Christians have a right to be offended like atheists, gay people.

What is it about belief in GOD that so threatens you?

Cluedo Monopoly

Fast Twitch wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with anger when you're dealing with people who want to bully. Force their viewpoint on you.

Tell you NO you don't have the right to feel offended because I say so.

But LBGTQ have the right to be offended. People telling you they pick and choose who can and cannot be offended.

Anglican man who really saw the amount of small minded people in this country when the pope visited in 2018. Active campaign to boycott.

I'm angry this evening and very occasionally. But these anti Christians are BITTER.

I imagine you are too blinkered to see the irony of your post.

Fast Twitch

breezy1985 wrote: »

Above is the bit you just cant seem to grasp and it goes a long way to explaining why you dont get satire. A defender of the church crying because you think other people are trying to"Force their viewpoint on you"when that has been the churches M.O. since the year dot

They are trying to force their viewpoint that you can't feel offended. In as bad a way as ever the church did. As a Christian I have every right to feel offended with my God being called a pedophile. You don't get to judge who has a right to be offended.

I don't debate with people who think WW productions are more common than the Catholic Church.

You can't grasp anything logistical.

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

As you mentioned in a later post this is Ireland. A whole lot more died for their faith than atheism here.

The archbishop was right to represent his people. Christians have a right to be offended like atheists, gay people.

What is it about belief in GOD that so threatens you?

Less dead and less killers too

Do you need a certain number of dead to be considered brave ?



I have never denied you the right to be offended or to speak I just think its dumb.


Im not threatened by belief in god I just think its dumb.


Its clearly the catholics crying about a sketch who feel their power threatened

Fast Twitch

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

I imagine you are too blinkered to see the irony of your post.

I imagine your intellect is lacking.

Fast Twitch

breezy1985 wrote: »

Less dead and less killers too

Do you need a certain number of dead to be considered brave ?



I have never denied you the right to be offended or to speak I just think its dumb.


Im not threatened by belief in god I just think its dumb.


Its clearly the catholics crying about a sketch who feel their power threatened

The Catholics power! Get real. Anglicans, Methodists are annoyed too.

breezy1985

Fast Twitch wrote: »

They are trying to force their viewpoint that you can't feel offended. In as bad a way as ever the church did. As a Christian I have every right to feel offended with my God being called a pedophile. You don't get to judge who has a right to be offended.

I don't debate with people who think WW productions are more common than the Catholic Church.

You can't grasp anything logistical.

The church locked up young girls for the perfectly normal act of sex before marriage. Then it beat and raped them
It took young boys into its care and then beat and raped them on an industrial scale.
Wars, crusades, the Spanish Inquisition.



Tell me what have WWN or any of their defenders done that is as bad as that


Who said you cant feel offended? Show me

magicbastarder

Fast Twitch wrote: »

6-9 generations back people died for their faith.

It's a whole lot more character and courage than most of ye could muster. Their faith carried them through the most horrendous of times.

hang on, it hardly carried them through horrendous times if they died because of it?

Cluedo Monopoly

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I imagine your intellect is lacking.

Indeed.

And how do you allow Tommy Tiernan his own show on RTE given the joke he made abour Jesus on the Late Late show 2 decades ago which caused huge uproar. I recall he had to spend the night in RTE because of the angry mob outside.

magicbastarder

anyway, i am repeatedly bemused that *joking* about a deity impregnating someone against their will is somehow seen as more objectionable by the faithful than the actual concept of their deity impregnating someone against their will.

breezy1985

magicbastarder wrote: »

hang on, it hardly carried them through horrendous times if they died because of it?

Schroedinger's Catholic