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    #32
    corks finest
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    RINO87 wrote: »
    A cargo bike is an option

    Feckin sherpa


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    #33
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,948 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    RINO87 wrote: »
    A cargo bike is an option

    Or even home delivery!!

    A lot to be said for it at the moment...


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    #34
    beer enigma
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    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Or even home delivery!!

    A lot to be said for it at the moment...

    Tried that, bruised fresh stuff, wrong items, also means tesco van makes the same once a week trip I do


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    #35
    beer enigma
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    RINO87 wrote: »
    A cargo bike is an option

    Up the Well Road, I'm 56, feck that


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    #36
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,948 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    beer enigma wrote: »
    Tried that, bruised fresh stuff, wrong items, also means tesco van makes the same once a week trip I do

    Frustrating that the shopping isn't correct, but the van holds many shoppers deliveries, therefore reducing traffic...


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    #37
    beer enigma
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    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Frustrating that the shopping isn't correct, but the van holds many shoppers deliveries, therefore reducing traffic...

    True but I've then ended up driving some stuff back. As someone who shops in the market I like quality, Tesco bruised stuff I wouldn't have chosen, last week a ham that was more fat than meat and I'd say would have been unsold. If anyone thinks I'm walking down from the top of the Well Road to the shops and back every day, dream on


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    #38
    Homesick Alien
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    I grew up in Douglas and my parents still live there. I genuinely could not believe it last time I was down when my parents told me an Aldi was going in where the old cinema is. I still can't believe it to be honest. The village has been ruined by shopping centres, a garage and now an Aldi and all the extra traffic that is going to bring. WTF were they thinking? Absolutely no vision for making the place liveable. They could have designated that area for the weekly market and had some permanent seating, green space, a small playground etc instead of it being squeezed in front of the shopping centre with nowhere to sit. They could have made the roads one way and had plenty of space for a two-way cycleway. There's so much they could have done but instead we get an Aldi and more traffic. It's a travesty. I mean there's already an Aldi 5 mins up the road in Grange!


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    #39
    LapsypaCork
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    I felt so lucky when I moved to Douglas 20 years ago but not any more. If you look deep, there is nothing there really. Take a person in their 20’s or 30’s for example like my kids. They have nowhere to buy decent clothes, and have no reason to be visiting Douglas nowadays, neither do I and I’m in my 50’s. The village is now just one big food hall as that’s all I can ever see opening in recent years. The cinema wasn’t supported by locals hence its closure. TBH, I’d rather see some nice apartment builds over any more fast food/take aways. Hopefully the City Council will have a good look at any further planning requests from supermarkets and takeaways.


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    #40
    the beer revolu
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    LapsypaCork wrote: »
    I felt so lucky when I moved to Douglas 20 years ago but not any more. If you look deep, there is nothing there really. Take a person in their 20’s or 30’s for example like my kids. They have nowhere to buy decent clothes, and have no reason to be visiting Douglas nowadays, neither do I and I’m in my 50’s. The village is now just one big food hall as that’s all I can ever see opening in recent years. The cinema wasn’t supported by locals hence its closure. TBH, I’d rather see some nice apartment builds over any more fast food/take aways. Hopefully the City Council will have a good look at any further planning requests from supermarkets and takeaways.


    I grew up in the area, too. Now, it's really just a big car dependant shopping mall with crap shops and too much fast food.


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    #41
    namloc1980
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    Grew up in Douglas too and my dad still lives there. Sad to say but it's an awful mess now. A concrete jungle with ridiculous traffic levels. The cinema site could have been the start of a new town centre with apartments, green space and a transport hub but instead it is just another concrete supermarket bunker surrounded by an ocean of tarmac car parking.


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    #42
    LapsypaCork
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    The entrance to the new Aldi is either through the East Village complex or off the roundabout by MCD’s, bad enough area for traffic on any rush hour, pains me to think of the congestion during busy weekends, Christmas etc. Thank God for the slip road by Tesco where I’ll be heading onto the Southlink and into The Market more often I think.
    Also, going off topic here, but maybe they’ll now finally renovate the Aldi in Grange which has gone fairly manky.


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    #43
    Treehelpplease
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    the only time I go through Douglas is to get to town and the odd time Douglas Court. The city council really need to look at it, its too close to the city centre to be properly used by people I think. The Aldi shouldn't have been allowed, especially with there already being a Tesco, Tesco Express, Dunnes, Marks & Spencers and a SuperValu and Grange five minutes away. I saw on the other website skyscrapercity that there are plans for over a hundred apartments on east douglas street which is very welcome. More of that. I go to the park a lot too and its always exceptionally busy, so more of that too please. Not surface car parks and food stores


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    #44
    corks finest
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    Homesick Alien wrote: »
    I grew up in Douglas and my parents still live there. I genuinely could not believe it last time I was down when my parents told me an Aldi was going in where the old cinema is. I still can't believe it to be honest. The village has been ruined by shopping centres, a garage and now an Aldi and all the extra traffic that is going to bring. WTF were they thinking? Absolutely no vision for making the place liveable. They could have designated that area for the weekly market and had some permanent seating, green space, a small playground etc instead of it being squeezed in front of the shopping centre with nowhere to sit. They could have made the roads one way and had plenty of space for a two-way cycleway. There's so much they could have done but instead we get an Aldi and more traffic. It's a travesty. I mean there's already an Aldi 5 mins up the road in Grange!

    City manager needs a kick up the jacksy,Cork is gone corporate and shopping malls, instead of building house's with amenities,they plonk shopping centres willy nilly,
    No thought into ppl trying to go about their everyday lives, Douglas and other places destroyed,have a sconsce at Carrigalines traffic,a ****in joke gone wrong


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    #45
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
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    Dundrum and Blackrock villages in Dublin got an overhaul last summer, one way traffic system through the village and a contraflow cycle lane, laods of new seating and public realm upgrade.

    Douglas could easily have the same. Blackpool Village a similar story.

    City Council here have no ambition whatsoever.


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    #46
    Mardyke
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    It's sad to say, but I would dodge Douglas nowadays. It's now easier and a more pleasant experience going into town rather than Douglas.

    Irish Town planners seem to have no concept of creating town centres / plazas / piazza type area where people can gather and socialise or sit and read a paper or whatever.


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    #47
    AugustusMinimus
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    Was it not the County Council who gave permission for this Aldi and who are largely responsible for the traffic mess?


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    #48
    Dbu
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    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    Dundrum and Blackrock villages in Dublin got an overhaul last summer, one way traffic system through the village and a contraflow cycle lane, laods of new seating and public realm upgrade.

    Douglas could easily have the same. Blackpool Village a similar story.

    City Council here have no ambition whatsoever.

    To be fair, Douglas is a lot cleaner since the City Council took over the running of it IMO
    A road sweeper machine is around most days now
    Cork County Council didnt give a toss about the place for years
    Fingerpost a case in point. If McDonald's didn't take over the maintenance of that it would be overgrown.
    Remember how the county council left it?


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    #49
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    Money talks unfortunately. Once the Aldi is built and commissioned, the council will wash their hands and be done with it. Seems to be a pattern of just build on whatever bit of land is available without taking a step back and thinking of what the village actually needs. I grew up in Douglas myself and its a far worse off place than it once was. Such a shame. I really did think they would build a new cinema or even some sort of new amenity that would benefit this generation.


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    #50
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
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    Another Aldi planned for Skehard Road Blackrock.


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    #51
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
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    Dbu wrote: »
    To be fair, Douglas is a lot cleaner since the City Council took over the running of it IMO
    A road sweeper machine is around most days now
    Cork County Council didnt give a toss about the place for years
    Fingerpost a case in point. If McDonald's didn't take over the maintenance of that it would be overgrown.
    Remember how the county council left it?

    That's fair enough, but Douglas needs a lot more than a road sweeper to improve.


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    #52
    namloc1980
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    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    Another Aldi planned for Skehard Road Blackrock.

    Isn't there an Aldi already there by the CSO?


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    #53
    TheChizler
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    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    Another Aldi planned for Skehard Road Blackrock.
    I found the Echo article but no detail as to where exactly. The only place I can think of is that site to the east of Supervalu, but it would be madness to put a big development there and asking everyone to drive to it, especially with Supervalu next door and another Aldi 600m down the road. Weird attempt at April fools humour?


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    #54
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Isn't there an Aldi already there by the CSO?

    Yep. Apparently another one is on the cards, as the Blackrock store is one of their busiest. Crazy to have 90 car spaces vs just 10 bike spaces in this residential area.


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    #55
    run_Forrest_run
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    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    Yep. Apparently another one is on the cards, as the Blackrock store is one of their busiest. Crazy to have 90 car spaces vs just 10 bike spaces in this residential area.

    Are the 10 bike spaces often fully taken at the same time? I guess Aldi knows most people will take the car when shopping for obvious reasons. I get your point though, the Aldi in Passage probably has even less than 10 bike spaces (but are rarely used to be fair).


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    #56
    BruteStock
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    An Taisce should be opposing all these unnecessary shopping centers , instead they seek to prevent the creation of new houses and a skyscraper that everybody would love to see erected. Useless prics


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    #57
    TheChizler
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    run_Forrest_run wrote: »
    Are the 10 bike spaces often fully taken at the same time? I guess Aldi knows most people will take the car when shopping for obvious reasons. I get your point though, the Aldi in Passage probably has even less than 10 bike spaces (but are rarely used to be fair).
    Any purpose built ALDI I can think of has the bike stands you can't lock your frame to with a u-lock, no good really.


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    #58
    kub
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    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    That's fair enough, but Douglas needs a lot more than a road sweeper to improve.


    I have no doubt that the City Council are only too aware of the mess they have inherited from the County Council in Douglas.


    Also on a related thing, anyone who has visited Douglas Cemetery since the City took it over cannot but notice the difference.


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    #59
    two wheels good
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    I found the Echo article but no detail as to where exactly. The only place I can think of is that site to the east of Supervalu, but it would be madness to put a big development there and asking everyone to drive to it, especially with Supervalu next door and another Aldi 600m down the road. Weird attempt at April fools humour?


    I recall a notice, (or was it a rumour) a while back about supermarket development on a residental site a few doors east of the Healy Blue Bin site on the the old road. An enormous site for a single residence but I remember thinking it seemed small for a supermarket.
    Otherwise .. near Bessboro?


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    #60
    Mefistofelino
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    two wheels good wrote: »
    I recall a notice, (or was it a rumour) a while back about supermarket development on a residental site a few doors east of the Healy Blue Bin site on the the old road. An enormous site for a single residence but I remember thinking it seemed small for a supermarket.
    Otherwise .. near Bessboro?

    The site is about 80 - 100m up from SuperValu, towards the credit union. There has been a Lyonshall sign on the metal gates there for some time.


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    #61
    TheChizler
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    Mefistofelino wrote: »
    The site is about 80 - 100m up from SuperValu, towards the credit union. There has been a Lyonshall sign on the metal gates there for some time.
    Unless something is done to cut traffic levels it's madness IMO, adding a new junction between two junctions that regularly completely back up in both directions. Surely it won't get planning?


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