Hyundai Ioniq 5

PhilBky

As I posted on Sunday, I did a trip as follows with the battery starting at 100%.

157kms outbound using I-pedal and air conditioning at 18 degrees with fan speed 1. 

Return trip 155 kms with everything else the same. 

Total distance 312 kms. 30% battery remaining and a range remaining of 120 kms thus showing a gain of 40kms.

Using the Bluelink app today revealed the following figures for that day:

Energy consumption 43.33 kWh means that approx 41% of battery remaining

Average consumption 7.13 kms per kWh

Driving distance 309 kms

Recuperation 28.46 kWh

It doesn’t add up. Why are the figures produced by the car in real time on the day at variance with the figures the car is sending to the app?

crisco10

Don't know others experience but my apps energy consumption has been off since day 1. For some reason my average consumption is about 0.26km/kwh !!!

jspuds

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118851940#Comment_118851940

Do you have the 20" Tyres?

I'm averaging about 23kWh/100km that is driving in eco and have a theory that the 20" wheels are a lot less efficient than the 19"

crisco10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852200#Comment_118852200

No. 19 inches. And the issue isn't actual consumption, its what the app reports. According to it, my daily average consumption is 112kWh. I.e. total garbage!

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852200#Comment_118852200

Your theory is based on what? One rotation of a 19 inch wheel will cover less ground than one rotation of a 20 inch wheel and thus the 20 inch wheel will require marginally less energy to cover a given distance even accounting for the extra weight of the bigger wheel.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852333#Comment_118852333

Exactly. The app is a nonsense. My average shown on the car’s display as I type is 6.3 kms per kWh which translates to 15.9 kWh per 100 kms. Car not driven since the previously detailed trip on Sunday and has 20 inch wheels.

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852333#Comment_118852333

I've 20 inch wheels and my daily average usage is 152kwh 😂. Must be my age now but I can't remember charging it twice a day.

App is crap for data bar data on trips (distance and speed) energy usage stuff is a load of b#£&ix.

The Mist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852622#Comment_118852622

20" wheels are about 10% less efficient. There are multiple videos and websites documenting this. Not just on the ioniq 5 but any other ev offering different wheel sizes.

https://ev-database.org is a great website for example

Where do people see km per kWh? I can't find it at all!

Killer K

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118853577#Comment_118853577

Spot on. It does make we wonder in general if EVs are supposed to be about energy efficiency and the environment why they are increasingly being fitted with 19'' and 20'' inch wheels. I get that they look good but also negates their purpose to a degree. Not specific to the Ioniq 5 by any means!!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118848192#Comment_118848192

What about the people that had Audis ordered and deposits paid for?

They we’re all refunded last month and told their orders cannot be fulfilled.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118852622#Comment_118852622

The larger wheels are less efficient. It’s noticeable on the teslas. Mine has 21” wheels on the performance and those with the 19” wheels will see slightly better economy figures. In fact, the website tells you this too.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118853577#Comment_118853577

A 20 inch wheel covers more ground per rotation than a 19 inch wheel. That’s simple, observable physics. A 19 inch wheel needs less power to overcome inertia than a 20 inch wheel so acceleration is marginally different. A 10% decrease in efficiency for a 20 inch wheel is a way over the top estimate.

Once inertia is overcome the tractive effort needed to maintain a given speed will depend on the rolling resistance of the tyre on the wheel of whatever size added to the weight of the vehicle and any wind resistance (drag).

A larger wheel will require fewer rotations for any given distance thus at any given speed with all else equal a smaller wheel will need more energy to maintain that speed as it has to rotate faster than the larger wheel.

However this is academic for real world experience as the difference is marginal. The videos and websites documenting a 10% difference are not backed by physics and tend to concentrate on the energy required to overcome inertia and rolling resistance. If there was a 10% difference then there would be different performance figures for the 2 wheel drive Ioniq 5 with 19 inch wheels and those with 20 inch wheels - they are, in fact, the same.

You can find the km per kWh in the same space as the kWh per 100 kms by going into the menu, opening the settings tab then the general tab and navigating to the units tab then changing the setting.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118854101#Comment_118854101

What about them? Their contracts were terminated due to the inability of the supplier to deliver and, as per either the written or implied terms of the contract, they received their deposits back.

Thus the dealers fulfilled their part of the contract to the best of their ability.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118854185#Comment_118854185

So the same can happen to a Hyundai Order, cool thanks.

The Mist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118854068#Comment_118854068

I know, but for example within the first week of owning the ioniq 5, two neighbors came in all questions, very interested. Those same neighbors never asked a thing about my classic ioniq I had owned for 5 years...

In the teslas, where you can choose size, why do some people go with the larger wheels, when they are more expensive and less efficient...

Unfortunately size and looks matter a lot :)

The Mist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118854168#Comment_118854168

What you say makes sense to me, but it's just a fact that smaller wheels are more efficient, don't asked me how ...

Thanks for the settings bit, I'll try it later today :)

dmn

The Grand Uranus arrived at the Cork port this morning and I got a mail from the dealer to let me know that my Ioniq 5 is on board. Hopefully many others will get the same news today.

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/GRAND-URANUS-IMO-9472206-MMSI-477142300

buachaill maith

Finally got the call to announce the arrival of my premium LE in cork and hope for delivery end of next week.Original delivery was January then March and got call early march to say premium spec were not available before june which was after my ev home charger grant expiry date,I had to settle for premium LE.I hope i don't regret it but a bird in the hand and all that,will finally get to use my home charger.

Josieg

I'm hoping my Premium Plus is on that ship. Was told it would arrive by end of month but that was back in January. It's a company car through a lease company. They are not as forthcoming with info as a dealer might be.

shanec1928

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118858010#Comment_118858010

There’s premium plus’s due in the end of may.

TitianGerm

Has anyone had front sensors installed on the Ioniq 5 executive?

Josieg

Sh1te. I've got the charger installed already! I've contacted lease company for an update so fingers crossed there is something on this shipment for me but not confident now 😟

crisco10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118858918#Comment_118858918

Maybe worth proactively contacting seai to explain and requesting extension to the 6 month date?

(And over email so a paper trail exists!)

deisedevil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118858753#Comment_118858753

We asked dealer about getting it installed and he said they aren't installing the kits in Ireland because of problems with how they affect the other sensors. I think that's a pile of sh**e and am going to look into it a bit more. They install them elsewhere in Europe. Should really be coming with them as standard.Having been used to having those sensors on previous car it's very frustrating not having them now. Especially with it being difficult to gauge how close the front of this car is to a wall etc.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118859603#Comment_118859603

By any chance were you told that in Waterford? (Just guessing with your name).

I'm sure we'd get used to not having sensors on the front but it doesn't make sense not to have them.

ongarite

Just got call from Hyundai Navan to say my Premium Plus order has been delayed to July. Car ordered in January.

Josieg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118859786#Comment_118859786

I've just been told delay in my Premium Plus too. Order in Jan also for end of March delivery. My contact is telling me mine will arrive in 4 weeks though. I'm very dubious....how can I find out the shipments of Ioniq 5 coming into Ireland? Someone on here had info that the carrier arriving into Cork yesterday morning was carrying a load and that tallied up with what I was told my delivery date would be. Would there really be a delivery again in 4 weeks and again in July as @ongarite has been told?

ongarite

There are no Premium Plus available until end of May/June at earliest so not 4 weeks time.

shanec1928

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118859857#Comment_118859857

Thats spot on we ordered ours last week and were looking at the system theres still a few free cars that are available showing as may 30th arrival but id say that will be slightly delayed, hope for a delay to july just to have 222

PhilBky

Fell victim to the dreaded dead 12 volt battery this evening. As soon as I put the boost charger on the car came to life and the boost charger will now take up residence in the frunk - perhaps that is what the frunk was designed for 😀.

I just wonder if there is a connection between the low main battery level of 16% and use of accessories at such low battery levels as the car decides to preserve range rather than charging the 12 volt.

deisedevil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118859616#Comment_118859616

Ya that's right. Bolands Waterford. They were very good to deal with I must say overall.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863052#Comment_118863052

That's who I was talking to as well and they've been excellent so far.

Disappointed about the front sensors but it is what it is.

I was looking at an Enyaq IV60 today and the spec difference between it and the Executive Ioniq 5 is ridiculous at a very similar price.

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863131#Comment_118863131

Very likely longer delays on any EV in the VW group their really effected by wiring loom supplier in Ukraine apparently.

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863040#Comment_118863040

Is there a main dealer fix for this?what if you have to be somewhere and don't have a booster?would'nt be a impressed for a new car if it was me.

Emergio

Hi All! New happy owner of Ioniq5 executive plus here. Looking for advice. I did so far under 800km in this car. Most of it commuting to work from Navan to Dublin through N/M 2, so mix of town, motorway and country roads.

Is it normal to have 0% of battery care?

Would those figures looking ok? On motorway I'm doing 110km/h.

Anyone doing similar trips and could share their experience?

Thank you!

Paul Kiernan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118863040#Comment_118863040

I bought one of these and leave it permanently plugged into lighter socket -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07H2VDPNF/ref%3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've noticed that sometimes it shows just over 12v (i.e. 12v battery not being charged) and sometimes 13 or 14v (i.e. 12v battery being charged). Haven't noticed any real pattern though!

If you put car in "UTIL" mode it'll force it to charge.

Paul Kiernan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864742#Comment_118864742

5km/kwh seems about right for today at 110km/h. Overall figure of 3km/kwh seems very low! Could be issue with App. Have you had the car for the whole period measured i.e. from 3/3/21?

PN14

Here's mine Emergio if its any good to you

I have a premium 73kwh. 11,000kms picked it up end of January

Lots of motorway in that at 120kph

No idea if figures are good bad indifferent dont think I ever even looked at this screen until you posted, just drove the car 😀

Mark010

Hi Guys,

Pulled my order for a Skoda Enyak (due to low spec options, hidden dealer delivery costs, wait time). Neighbour picked up the Ioniq 5 last week and the wife loves the look of it. Going to test drive one tomorrow. Dealer again quoting 2k on top of advertised price (41k for exec, 44 for exec plus, 48k for premium.)

Not to be posted here, but if anyone bought their ionic 5 and would recommend their dealer/deals they happened to get, shoot me a DM. Based in Dublin but no problem travelling to negotiate prices. Prefer the chrome sills to the black plastic so be interested to hear any good prices on the premium model.

Thanks

shanec1928

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118865223#Comment_118865223

the advertised cost is excluded delivery and charges. thats the same for all new cars

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864250#Comment_118864250

This is a widely reported problem around the world, and not just with Hyundai EVs. It seems to only affect lead acid batteries. Tesla’s and VW having had similar problems are in the process of converting to Lithium -ion. Takes less than a couple of minutes to fix with a jump starter.

There was some thought that on the Ioniq 5 it may have been linked to a fault with the charger port door but this does not always seem to be the case.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118864742#Comment_118864742

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118865190#Comment_118865190

In the words of the service manager, ‘don’t believe the figures on the app’. It’s fine for remotely heating, locking, charging and for giving the same real time range figure as displayed in the car. The other figures are very much a work of fiction. Go back on the forum to March 29 and look at my post which shows the actual figures for my 312 kms trip on March 27, compiled from the car and the figures on the app for the same trip. I’m surprised the app hasn’t been entered for the Booker prize as an exceptional work of fiction.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118865223#Comment_118865223

All models, particularly the more expensive models are in short supply with long delivery times and, frankly, limited colour choices. There are stories circulating in the U.K., US, and at least one from Ireland of owners of cars selling for more than they paid. Certainly people have been approached to sell cars they haven’t yet received for more than the delivered price.

Most people who have received their cars are thankful they have arrived as ordered as the changes that came in in late January changed the specs of some cars ordered but not built.

If you can find a dealer wishing to negotiate you should be extremely careful that he isn’t wearing green, be lacking in height and sitting on a rocking horse which has just left its droppings near the end of a rainbow.

TitianGerm

Order going in today on an Executive hopefully and I think we're going to go for Lucid Blue.

Anyone have this colour in Executive on here? Be interested in seeing how it's holding up.

We were thinking White and Teal Green but this is the front runner now.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118869153#Comment_118869153

Saw one in Lucid Blue, looked well. Best of luck..

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118869177#Comment_118869177

I'd prefer White but I'm being over ruled here. I suppose it's going to be her car so she should have the final choice 😂

Gandalphs Brother

Haven't done a lot of night driving yet, but I had to take a trip to Enniscorthy the other night and one thing I noticed was that when in cruise mode, the slightest downhill dip in the road obviously triggered the regen, but it also lit up the road behind me with very bright brake lights. This happened quite frequently and it occurred to me that if I'd been driving behind I'd have got quite irritated and be wondering why the guy in the Ioniq had such a nervous foot. The problem doesn't seem so apparent when using the iPedal.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118870480#Comment_118870480

It would be a welcome change from all of the one headlamp out merchants I met the last time I was down around enniscorthy (back roads outside the town ) I met at least 5 in one 10km stretch, it was mental.

DaveyDave

That teal is a lovely colour, not too flash and in your face but also doesn't hide all the design lines of the car.

Seeing a good few of these around in the last week. Such a great looking car. Love the front and rear lights along with that sharp line on the doors.

Gandalphs Brother

If the recent posts about 12v battery failures are making anyone nervous, this Power Bank from Mick's Garage is a good deal.

https://tinyurl.com/2fv4z4m7

I have one on order, which I'll keep in the frunk.