Hyundai Ioniq 5

Ionised

Collected Executive Plus 58kwh in White last week. Traded Mini Cooper SE.

Only went to local dealer to enquire about ordering for delivery towards the end of the year, but they happened to have one for immediate delivery in colour and spec I would have ordered.

Not as fun to drive as the Mini but way more comfortable and better tech. Finally can use Android Auto again!

It is a tad larger than the Mini though 😬

splashthecash

I went enquiring for availability a week or two ago across a couple of dealers and was told more or less that there are shipments supposed to be due in for May but this will likely be June\July. We were planning on waitin til end of year to put a deposit down but going on comments here, it could become harder and harder to get your hands on one of these as the year progresses...decisions decisions..

baby fish

I was told July delivery too, the lowest spec available with a 73kwh battery is the Premium (so executive plus not available & premium LE not available). The 58kwh is available for all specs. Both dealers I spoke to said they don't know if the 73kwh will be available in the executive plus again .

I'm wondering maybe the executive plus will be available again in the new year with the bigger 77kwh battery?

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118879838#Comment_118879838

Don’t take anything a dealer says about availability and delivery as gospel. They simply are operating blindfold as are, to some extent, Hyundai Ireland.

From talking to Hyundai over the last six months or so, it seems that there are so many model variations around the world to meet local construction and use regulations and market requirements, that national Hyundai branches were meant to order based on firm customer orders plus a small spare inventory per dealer. Each car was to be allocated a VIN and assigned to an individual customer or dealer as building was completed. My car’s VIN was allocated to me as it came of the line in November.

This is unlike other mass market manufacturers which build cars for a market and the dealers draw from a pool of completed cars for that country - thus the vast arrays of stored cars seen in the past in fields in the U.K. or on massive dealer lots in the USA.

By announcing the car at the start of 2021 Hyundai had estimated in their pre announcement planning that they would have enough orders plus spare cars for each market by the different dates the car was launched in each country.

By January 2021 Covid and its attendant supply problems had hit but the original plans went ahead. The parts supply chain problems have, if anything got worse and demand has been even better than expected in every market.

It seems that now they will allocate to individual order for those prepared to wait. Otherwise they are building in reduced numbers the models they feel they can sell in each market and delivering those as inventory for distribution to dealers unsold.

In Ireland there is a limited market. The models differ in various ways from other right hand drive markets such as the U.K., Australia and New Zealand.

With the difficulty in component supply, a limited market in Ireland and the national company having to assess what can be sold quickly from inventory, in addition to specifically ordered cars, the national company is only advised what it is getting for for inventory once the cars are on the boat.

It may be some time before things return to what was to have been normal.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118880702#Comment_118880702

Can't understand why Hyundai continue to supply different specs to different Countries particularly within Europe. Other manufacturers have stopped doing this, simply disabling items that may not be legal in a certain country.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118880920#Comment_118880920

Not totally true. If you ignore the need for speedometer and odometers to be in kms in Ireland, there is no reason for Irish and UK specs to be different yet most manufacturers often offer lower specs here.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118881769#Comment_118881769

My last three cars had exactly the same spec here as the rest of Europe. My present car (Tesla) is the same worldwide. Manufacturers are thankfully slowly changing, however Hyundai and some others don't appear to yet. At least my wifes' base Ioniq 5 Executive looks better quipped than the UK lowest spec Connect and when we purchased was cheaper too (At the exchange rate of the day)

Captainsatnav

Was told today by dealer that Premium Plus that had been due early / mid April will now be end May.

Josieg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884268#Comment_118884268

Similar story for me. Don't have any details re which carrier it is due on so I wont hold my breath for end of May either.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118882720#Comment_118882720

It is ridiculous that cars going to anywhere in the EU should differ, one country to another. The only difference for Ireland being the right hand drive layout.

Years ago Ford announced that the Mondeo would live up to its name as a “world car”. Having seen and driven models in the U.K., Ireland, Germany and the USA nothing could be further from the truth. Apart from allowing for the variations due to construction and use, very little apart from the floor pan and some engines was common to cars in each country.

Hopefully environmental concerns will force manufacturers into greater commonality.

TitianGerm

Deposit finally paid on a Lucid Blue Executive.

Going to be a two EV household now.

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889077#Comment_118889077

You'll be fighting over the charger!👊👊👊,good luck with the new car🚗

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889326#Comment_118889326

We'll work it out. As long as she doesn't treat the car the same as her phone and charge it for 10 minutes before she leaves 😂

grennscreener

anyone know if we're getting the Hyundai version of kia charge?

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118890314#Comment_118890314

Hyundai will eventually have the Charge my Hyundai card available here. It was expected to be available from March this year but it seems there is a delay.

Summer2020

The new pricing and amendments to the current specs. Don't know when the new pricing applies but I'd imagine it will add €3,000 minimum to the executive model, going by the fact the UK pricing is increased by £3,000.

It's not worth an extra €3,000 plus to me anyway. Looks like a battery heater will come as standard now also.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892344#Comment_118892344

What's SOP July mean?

Summer2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892391#Comment_118892391

I think that's when the first ones will be made , or that's my take on it anyway.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892395#Comment_118892395

That'd make more sense. When I was ordering mine during the week they didn't know anything about an update to the trim levels.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892344#Comment_118892344

The vision roof, auto flush door handles, relaxation seats, tech pack and eco pack are already included in the Premium Plus in Ireland, such as mine, deliverd in January. There have been loud complaints from some in the UK about the lack of these in the Ultimate, currently top of the range in the UK.

The rear view camera mirror and bigger battery will be available here on the Premium Plus but the digital wing mirrors may be an extra.

baby fish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892531#Comment_118892531

How much will the smart frequency dampers add to the handling ? are they worth waiting for?

Is the battery conditioning just a software update on cars manufactured prior to this update ... (excluding executive here as it hasn't a heat pump)

Can V2L adapter be purchased in Ireland for the lower specs

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892688#Comment_118892688

Unless you are addicted to sport mode, I’d suspect the smart frequency dampers effect won’t be that noticeable in normal driving. Certainly driving in South Kerry and South West Cork, the current handling is fine the low centre of gravity helps the car stick to the road. It may help improve the ride quality on rough roads though this is already good.

The battery conditioning should be a firmware upgrade available over the coming over the air upgrades. It seems it only kicks in when using the nav system en route to a charger.

The V2L adapter is available in the U.K. and the USA as an accessory but I can’t find it available in Ireland.

eagerv

The digital wing mirrors and rear view camera mirror would be the last things I would want. Prefer to be able to move my head to get a different field of view..

baby fish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892916#Comment_118892916

Thanks

Just noticed on the image posted above, the battery heater and preconditioning is on the SE connect spec.....and the premium spec has + heat pump.

This would suggest these are 2 different things? We have the heat pump in Ireland, but is the battery heater already installed on existing cars?

From looking online Seems the battery heater is needed for the fast DC charging.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893106#Comment_118893106

Is this rear view camera already on the premium and premium plus here?

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893337#Comment_118893337

The rear view camera is on all models atm.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893337#Comment_118893337

The battery heater operation is distinct from the heat pump operation and, as I said in a previous reply, is linked to the nav system. It works when you select an EV charger as your destination and isn’t yet available as a firmware upgrade on 2021/2022 first issue cars.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893358#Comment_118893358

The rear view camera in the 2023 spec is NOT the reversing camera fitted to current models. The camera referred to is to be fitted above the rear window and will give an image in a screen that will replace and look like a standard rear view mirror. It is to answer the criticisms of the lack of a rear wiper. The reversing camera will remain

ongarite

The smart dampers aren’t an adjustable sport suspension. They are the same dampers from EV6 for rear suspension.

Stops the rear suspension with weight from rear motors from hitting bump stops, crashing.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893581#Comment_118893581

In 2500 kms over some of the roughest roads in Kerry and Cork I’ve yet to come across any hitting of the bump stops. No doubt there will be some improvement, but how many will notice it.

If, as you say, the system comes from the EV6 this would be a logical cost reduction for the group - why have two different systems when one does the job.

Gandalphs Brother

Does anyone know what causes the error message when trying to switch Utility Mode on?

Sometimes it works just fine, but on other occasions I get a message saying, 'Utility Mode Operating Conditions Not Met', which isn't very helpful.

In both cases, I have the car switched on and just go through the EV menu to the Utility Mode option.

thunderbolt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118898870#Comment_118898870

I'd love to know too!!!! I haven't successfully used it because I keep getting that message!

thunderbolt

Also, has anyone had any issues with the marbled-effect material on the internal door handles? I just noticed today that it’s “chipped”. Looks like a layer of paper at the top (I thought it might have been a hard wearing plastic) and it’s white underneath. Definitely not hard wearing!! Not sure how to fix it/patch it up.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118903300#Comment_118903300

Go back to the dealer and have them report it to Hyundai. You don’t say how old your car is, if the door is one in regular use -i.e. for instance in my case with only two of us using the car, the back doors have hardly been used in 10 weeks.

Unless you have accidentally damaged the material outside the range of what would be deemed normal usage, the warranty should cover a replacement, if refused then you could have a case for restitution as the product is not fit for purpose or durable.

thunderbolt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904606#Comment_118904606

Cheers PhilBky. We got the car mid-January. It’s on the drivers door side and I honestly can’t think of what happened to it.

Did the same thing happen to you? Was it the faux-leather or the marble-effect material, and how did you get it resolved?

PhilBky

No, mine’s fine. Just offering a reasonable way for you to proceed.

As with everything else with the car, everyone, including Hyundai, is on a learning curve.

It isn’t the first time in motoring history that a new material has given problems, either generally or in isolated incidents.

It certainly needs investigation.

BTW the leather is real, just processed in a way that is eco friendly compared to traditional methods.

deisedevil

Has anyone had problems with the scheduled charging. Mine is all over the place with the last couple of weeks. Sometimes doesn't charge and sometimes starts charging the minute it's plugged in despite having scheduled charging set up and showing as on with app and in car. We were going to head away with it this weekend and had to leave it because it never charged overnight even though I had tested it again during day and it came on at scheduled charge time, so I set it back to usual night time and it never came on at all as was still at same range in the morning. Can't figure out if I've done something wrong, never changed anything and it was working away perfect.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904800#Comment_118904800

Did you set up charging in the car or by the app? Using the app last night mine failed to start charging at the scheduled time and 30 minutes later when I went out to the car there was a message on the car screen saying “charging interrupted check cable.”

Having removed and reinserted the cable, charging started but the range had already increased from when the car was last used, indicating that whatever the app said, charging had started on time.

After charging restarted, the charging finished at 80% as set up originally on the app.

shanec1928

Those end of may,start of June orders have been pushed out till July. No more orders being accepted for the moment.

ongarite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118906999#Comment_118906999

Seen that on the FB owners group.

Pause on all new orders, the MY23 model will probably be announced this week along with price increase.

spiderdan

Anyone recommend a dash cam? Saw a vid on YT an American fitting looks very handy. Halfords won't do any EV instal, fella said dealers were charging 1k for new ones to be fitted!! Main concern is draining the battery if I install it myself. Cheers

buachaill maith

Fairview motors installed mine pre delivery,Thinkware front and rear dashcam wired back to fuse box,very neat and done for €550.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118909922#Comment_118909922

We missus has the same in her ioniq 5. Neat setup alright and will not operate if 12V battery goes below a preset level when car powered down.

Donnchadh75

Hi all - have had our Ioniq 5 with the 73kw battery since February and love it. Just wondering what people's experience of a 'full' charge is. The Hyundai website indicates range should read (at that stage) 480km but I get nowhere near that. Max is about 420km. This includes days when not particularly cold etc etc.

Would welcome any insights / advice.

celtic_oz

https://ev-database.org/car/1662/Hyundai-IONIQ-5-Long-Range-2WD

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910374#Comment_118910374

Until we get days with temps in the range of 20 Celsius and above you won't get anywhere near that. The range will vary with temperature and is a guess based on temperature, driving style and will change as you drive. For instance in March I did a 312kms trip starting with 100% battery. Using I-Pedal, some aircon for temperature control (which seams to be more economical that just the heater for some reason I can't work out) when at the end of the trip I took the starting and finishing mileages, added the range the car was saying I had left, I had gained 40 kms range. All new cars, if delivered fully charged, say around 480kms range. Once driven it is rarely achievable again in our climate.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910374#Comment_118910374

The figures quoted on the Hyundai website are WLTP figures.

What the GOM shows is an estimate based on your recent driving history.

Donnchadh75

Hi all and thanks. For clarity... I'm not talking about what is actually ACHIEVED. I know that's dependent on loads of variables. I'm asking when it's fully charged, what should it be reading as being available. Are you saying that within two months, that's already revising downwards based on driving etc... and will continue to fall further?

If that's the case, how can you know over time whether the battery itself is becoming less effective?

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911182#Comment_118911182

itll go up again in the summer, when its fully charged you have x no of KWHs available, the range available is contingent on loads of factors, same as any other car.

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911182#Comment_118911182

Its basing it on the way you drive, mine no where near that (prob around 350 at the moment as l do a lot of motorway driving).

If you want to see 480 now the only way I think you'll see it is go into the dealer reset "the brain" of the car starting from scratch again. Dealer suggested that to me also when I bought but haven't taken them up on it yet I suspect it won't be for free 🤔.

Other wise 100% will be based on your driving history under non efficient conditions (e.g cold and wind).

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911182#Comment_118911182

It’s very straightforward. As one You Tube blogger says, the part of the display that shows the range is called the Guessometer. Every car that's ever been built has had its range affected by the load it carries, the wind, temperature, tyre pressures and the way it is driven. It's the same with your IONIQ. On picking it up it hasn't been used and the computer will give you the best possible range in perfect conditions on a full charge.

Unfortunately the computer has been set up with algorithms that can detect all the variables listed above and, each time you charge the battery the computer, in making its guess, takes into account everything that has affected the range since the last charge and also factors in an average of factors since the car was first run. It then adapts the range as you drive.

We have become so used to long distances on a full tank of fossil fuel that people forget it is less than 50 years ago that 30 miles to the gallon in a car with an 8 or ten gallon tank was considered normal. Range anxiety and the still underdeveloped infrastructure has become the curse of EV driving.

Donnchadh75

Thanks so much for all those answers and for taking the time!