Hyundai Ioniq 5

Ummagumma_78

These are the additional specs on the Exec Plus

From info in other posts it seems like there is a marginal gain in range on the colder days. Not sure the heat pump and the additional features make the price difference of €4K worth it. It’s a tough one - don’t want to regret it in hindsight either. Thanks for feedback.

Summer2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119315872#Comment_119315872

Not worth it in my eyes unless electric adjustable drivers seat is worth 4k to you?

Tinting can be professionally done for €200. Sliding centre console I'm not sure I'd ever use that tbh.

Thumper Long

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119315872#Comment_119315872

That’s a measly spec increase for 4K, as said tinting can be done very reasonable nothing on that list warrants the price differential

Ummagumma_78

Thanks for the feedback. That’s my feeling on it too. It’s a pity Hyundai don’t offer the 77kWh battery option on the Executive base model spec. I’d be more interested in spending extra on a bigger battery!

Paul Kiernan

AFAIK the VRT relief is phased out between price of 40k to 50k so 40k car has no VRT, 50k car has €3500 VRT! So basically any extras over 40k have a disproportionate effect on total car price.

DaveyDave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119316369#Comment_119316369

I think VRT relief tapering off is pretty lousy as a lot of the cars that are over 40k are just normal cars like the ID.3 or Ioniq 5, god forbid you don't want to drive something the size of a shoe like the Zoe or want something with more than 300km range. These aren't flash €100k executive saloons like an E-Tron GT or a 500hp AWD performance models. Prices are up across the board now so even less VRT relief will be available for a lot of models.

Adding wheels and electric seats to my Cupra Born makes it go from €38k to €42k...

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119316932#Comment_119316932

What??? Wheels are counted as an extra on the Born, how do you get home without them 😜

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119235281#Comment_119235281

Civil service rates are very bad for EV’s. Unfortunately you are punished for buying low emissions.

They're treated as the lowest band, the same as a 1.2 litre ICE.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119323759#Comment_119323759

This is true and is a shocking example of subdising fossil fuel consumption. The bigger the engine the more you get, mad ess. But I'd say the mileage payments or an EV goes a lot further due to the far lower running costs.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119323849#Comment_119323849

Goes further, but the purchase cost means it’s less of an incentive.

Im better off in my F10 535d than I am in my Model 3. Or indeed, the 530e as that gets the highest rate too.

podge1979

Any suggestions for insurance, transferred insurance from ICE to EV when I bought it in Jan and got rode (won't be renewing with them). So far an post seems fairly good at 355 anyone come across anything better.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119328420#Comment_119328420

There's no alternative but to call every broker and company you can find.

Ummagumma_78

Has anyone on here added roof bars or travelled with a roof box on the Ioniq 5. We would be travelling across on the ferry to France and would need a roofbox and with 58kWh battery I wonder will that have a hugely detrimental impact on the range. Plus wife and 2 kids.

Premium 77kWh is extra €9K but this is outside my budget.

Just not sure if the 58kWh spec will work as the main family car

PenguinForce

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311941#Comment_119311941

I registered last Monday and I have yet to receive any emails or phone calls about scheduling for the update.

KCross

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119329287#Comment_119329287

I don’t have an Ioniq 5 but have experience of a 58kWh battery plus roof box(ID.3) in France. It’s no bother at all.

just use the large charging networks (eg Ionity) and it is easy.

Take a look at

https://abetterrouteplanner.com

Plug in your car make/model and your destination and it will give you an idea of how many stops you will need and where and how long etc. it takes all the guesswork out of it for you.

grennscreener

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmO0jwcc0Js

Semi related to the EU road triping in an ioniq (his is the prem spec but still)

crisco10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119329287#Comment_119329287

We had same question re 58 v 77 and driving around France. So we modelled a few of our expected journeys using ABRP (linked above) and it was surprising how the bigger battery actually didn't lead to much less stopping really.

Not sure of the impact of roof box or bars though

grennscreener

Pleasant surprise there - popped in the phone and android auto opened in full screen. That an OTA update to the car or the android auto app?

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119328592#Comment_119328592

kinda stating the obvious 😀, I thought someone may have done that previously and could advise on good quotes they got.

For example on post is the best I've gotten so far (hope that helps someone).

shanec1928

sure everyone's circumstances are different, driver history, vehicle location etc

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119331192#Comment_119331192

Yes I get that, but if you get a decent prize with an insurer there a fair chance another customer would too. I got quoted between 355 and 650 from different companies.

Ummagumma_78

Thanks for that. Great to hear that the charging network is so well developed in France. Did you observe much of a drop in range in the ID3 due to the drag?

KCross

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119332617#Comment_119332617

Not nearly as much as I expected. See some stats (19.3kWh/100km) here in the ID.3 for my trip from the Ferry in Roscoff to Bordeaux region. It was no hassle or extra burden at all. We needed to stop anyway and the car was ready before we were.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119289427#Comment_119289427

I drove at the speed limit. The car was fully loaded (3 kids, 2 adults, full boot and roof box). The warm air and slower motorway limits in alot of France helped the efficiency figures but I was still expecting the roofbox to kill it.... 19.3kWh/100km is actually very good. I've driven in Ireland in winter and used 22kWh/100km with no roofbox so go figure!

How the Ioniq 5 does with all of that, I have no clue but I dont think it matters.... just use the high powered charging network and you'll be on your way again in 15-20mins.

Ummagumma_78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119333729#Comment_119333729

That’s great data. Great to see a real world example especially with a fully stacked car. The high speed charging is a major factor for me. Definitely swaying me away from the diesel estate!

TitianGerm

Folks where are ye installing your toll tags? I don't seem to have the hatch markings on my windscreen like I do on the ID3 so was just going to stick it beside the mirror housing on the passenger side.

oscarBravo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119333924#Comment_119333924

That's where I have mine. Works the finest.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119334034#Comment_119334034

Likewise. No problems…

prosaic

I've had issues when applying breaks coming to traffic lights where it feels like ABS comes on. Mostly in Level 3 so I hardly use the breaks at all and when I do it isn't heavy breaking. The ABS judder was for moderate enough level of breaking on a dry road.

I wonder if it got confused by traffic, e.g. cross traffic at the lights, but there was no collision warning (I've had a few of those)?

irewestlad

I'm hearing different view points as to whether the 2023 Platinum model will have the ability to do V2L.

On one account I'm hearing all you need to get is the adapter - about €350 - on the other hand I'm also hearing that this trim can't do V2L at all.

Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks!

Mr.David

Anyone able to tell me what the current waiting list is for a new one? Still around 9 months?!

podge1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119353996#Comment_119353996

Look back throught the thread, I think someone said they bought an after market adapter and it worked with executive spec.

Ionised

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119353996#Comment_119353996

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119354638#Comment_119354638

As far as I am aware, all trims have the capability for V2L, you just need to buy the adapter. Higher spec cars have the interior V2L socket in addition.

Cheaper than the Hyundai/Kia one... https://evcables.co.uk/collections/vehicle-to-load-cables/products/hyundai-kia-vehicle-to-load-v2l-discharge-cable

TitianGerm

Trip from Wexford to Cork today via Lehys Farm (started at 100% and finished at 58%). Very comfortable and relaxed journey with a well packed car (buggy, travel cot, mattress, three suitcases and two large sized shopping bags). Can't complain about that efficiency and I don't think I've ever seen similar on my ID3 even with just myself in the car (although I've not driven the ID3 in similar conditions).

I have to say I wasn't a fan of the built in sat nav, very poor in comparison to my ID3. Seemed to be very slow to update on upcoming turns and routed me down some roads that seemed to take much longer than my usual route. Back to Android Auto next time though.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119170608#Comment_119170608

58 is perfect for you.

I’ve the 52 ID4, have done 8k since April and have not had any regrets 95% home charging and charged on a public fast charger about 4 times.

the range should be about 300km, how often do you drive 300km without stopping for a few hours ?

oscarBravo

I have about 7000km on my 58kWh, including one Dublin trip and a couple of Mullingar runs from Westport. Not once has it ever crossed my mind to wish I had a bigger battery.

grennscreener

throwing my 2cents in on the smaller vs bigger battery. Just under 15k kms done with the 58kwh battery, I've had 1 occasion that I wished I'd the bigger battery and even then, to be honest it wouldn't have made a big difference I think. 99.9% of the rest of the time, the battery size has not been an issue what so ever.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119358405#Comment_119358405

Yes the missus is also very happy with the smaller battery, efficiency seems excellent in the warmer months when she is doing most of her longer runs. A recent trip from Co Wexford to Bantry was easy, quick top up each way at Cork. Amazed that such a big car can easily better 15kWh/100km on normal roads..

oscarBravo

Yeah, I really need to hit motorways to average more than 20kWh/100km in mild to warm weather. I took a spin to Leenane at the weekend and returned to Westport via Louisburgh, averaging around 13.3 for the whole trip, and that's despite some hilly bits.

hooch-85

Just passed 15k on ours, a 58kw too and long term average since new is down to 18.4kwh. Definitely glad we didn't stretch to the larger battery.

In the colder weather around 19 seemed to be our average but in the mild weather it's mostly between 15 and 16. Even less if it's mostly backroad/shower urban driving.

yer man!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119356648#Comment_119356648

Yeah you're right. I get generally stop off at the circle K near Athlone if I'm going to Galway from Dublin. That would be the most frequent long distance trip. I do hope those ionity charges don't get too full all the time.

kris_2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119356435#Comment_119356435

how do u compare both cars? i have id3 1st and thinking about changing to ioniq 5 too

John arse

Anyone had a look at the upcoming ioniq 6?,beautiful imo-might look at one next year.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119371796#Comment_119371796

I am not TitianGerm 😊 but just a little on our experiences of owning the two cars. Often had the opportunity to take either car, but personally I usually preferred to take the ID.3 providing I didn't need the extra space. Preferred the eco assist and the general more sporty handling and performance, but our Ioniq 5 is the lower powered smaller battery version. Also not a great fan of all the buttons and paddles etc on the Hyundai.

But the wife would disagree with me😁.

Of course the Ioniq is a larger more substantial car, ride comfort being better as well. Efficiency wise, the VW is perhaps 10% better, but not much in it in reality.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119371796#Comment_119371796

Very similar to what Eagerv said above. Both cars have pros and cons but if it was a trip around locally (no long motorway run) I'd take the ID3 everyday, for a longer journey on motorway or N roads I'd take the Ioniq 5.

Things I prefer on the ID3 (58KW 1ST) are the extra power, faster acceleration, and tighter steering. I love the uncluttered instrument cluster, the single armrest and wireless android auto. I also love Eco Assist and of all the EVs I've driven this coupled with D mode on the ID cars just suits my driving style perfectly.

Things I prefer on the Ioniq 5 (73KW Executive Plus) are how stable it feels when driving at motorway speeds, the excellent seats, the ability to recline the rear seats, the extra space in the cabin and extra luggage space (we brought three suitcases, a buggy, a travel cot, mattress and two bags of supplies on a few days away and it all fit in the boot/frunk). The auto lane follow on the cruise control is nice to have on longer journeys. Being able to slide the centre console is a handy feature as well if you prefer space in the front of the car. Glove box is huge as well, it's like a filing cabinet.

Something that I think is great on the ID3 over the Ioniq 5 is how you turn on and off the car. In the ID3 you sit in and off you go, no need to press any button. When you get to your destination you just get off the seat and the car turns off. This is something you get very used to and it's often had me trying to drive off in the Ioniq without actually starting the car or getting out of the car and leaving it on only to hear the beeps that the car is still running!!

I'll have the ID3 two years in October and it's been pretty solid over that time. I'm very happy I bought it and I'll either keep it for another 5+ years or I'll sell it before the end of the year and trade down to something with small range as it Ioniq 5 is the family car now so we don't "need" two cars with loads of range.

On a separate note i couldn't figure out if the Ioniq 5 slows down to match the speed signs when using cruise control. With all the new speed traps in Dublin this is a feature I'll want to use heading that direction from now on.

CFC007

Cancelled order for platinum 77kwh, going to hold out for the Ioniq 6 which will probably be an 232 plate.

kris_2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119374634#Comment_119374634

thanks! will need to get test drive for sure. surprising how many differences is there!

kris_2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119374392#Comment_119374392

thanks - did i see somewhere that u got Model 3 also?

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119377653#Comment_119377653

Yes, sold my ID.3 for the Model 3.

Now I never want to take the Ioniq 5.....😁

outlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119374634#Comment_119374634

The cruise control, if in Highway Drive Assist “HDA” mode, will slow down to match the speed limit. This is limited though.

1.      You set the cruise control to the speed limit

2.      You must be on a motorway (as far as I can see). E.g. it won’t slow down on the Athlone Bypass as the motorway ends and the assist stops operating, instead of reducing the set speed.

3.      It sees or otherwise picks up adjacent speed limits and can adjust the set speed unexpectedly!

Great use on unfamiliar motorway networks but less so on Irish motorways with few online speed restrictions. 

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119377893#Comment_119377893

So the tesla beats the hyundai hands down?(or were you joking?)🤔