Hyundai Ioniq 5

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118640335#Comment_118640335

Apologies to any owners if I offended you. I wasn't trolling, simply pointing out that I had seen my first one actually driving on the roads and I wasn't mad on the shape of it.

I owned a leaf for a few years and was told several times to my face it was ugly. Didn't bother me, as I wouldn't take offence at someone's opinion.

Not every shape is for everyone.

Radharc na Sleibhte

As my Grandad used to say….If everyone liked the same thing we would only need one type of everything and how boring would that be.

w124man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118633651#Comment_118633651

From what you say I can see that the dealer you brought the car to bought the car from VW Bank and gave you the balance. That's not selling a car is it? Your part is bringing someone else's car that you have a small interest in, to someone who will buy it from its legal owner who will in turn pay you your entitlement.

w124man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118640335#Comment_118640335

I spotted a loaded transporter heading to Cork today full of Ioniq 5's

Summer2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118642944#Comment_118642944

Not surprised, it's going to be a massive seller. Three times already when sitting in a car park I've had people knock on the window and ask me about the car , how I find it etc. There's massive interest in it.

hooch-85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118642926#Comment_118642926

Yes, its exactly the same process as selling a property that's secured with a mortgage.

Radharc na Sleibhte

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643066#Comment_118643066

I was in the supermarket today and someone came up to me half way around and said hi I saw you parking the Hyundai outside and proceeded to ask me questions on it like it was my specialist subject on mastermind. Never ever had such interest or comments on a car. I’m sure it will die down because they’ll soon be like taxis in New York judging by the amount coming in 😆

seadal

Hi all, sorry if this has been covered but there are so many posts ... I was quoted €42,700 today, in Cork, for the 58kw executive model, straight sale. The list price on Hyundai website is €38,495 so €4,200 for delivery and related charges. Does this sound right or am I missing something? I checked out the ID4 a few weeks back and the delivery and related charges were between €800 - €1300 depending on the dealer. I thought I'd ask here first before querying it with the dealer.

rob808

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643765#Comment_118643765

The price is bang on for that model there a basic one for 39k without heat pump.

Sargasso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643765#Comment_118643765

I would certainly query dealer. I ordered my car at start of Dec (April delivery) and dealer looked for €2500 I refused service agreement and it reduced to €2000 which I think is about average from what I've read to date.

denismc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643815#Comment_118643815

The Executive is the entry level model! So unless the dealer is mixed up there is a bit of gouging going on.

I paid a little over 39k for my Exec, I was quoted over 2k for delivery charges some of which I passed on.

rob808

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643898#Comment_118643898

It the same model Executive plus 58kw just without the heat pump should cost €39750.The Executive plus 58kw with the heat pump €42750.

PaulJoseph22

I like that they’ve kept some buttons and it’s not all touch, I saw one today and it looks really well.

crisco10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643965#Comment_118643965

The exec is entry level, only available in 58kwh. The exec plus is one up from that, available in both batteries and has heat pump (and I think sliding console?).

We ordered our exec in November, list price from dealer was e39k iirc. I did see the 2022 price list when I was collecting and the exec had crept up to 39.5k. On the same price list, the exec plus 58kwh was e42.5k.

PhilBky

After a few days of driving in the appalling weather using the wipers, headlights, heater, USB attached MP3 player and many kms into headwinds, I’ve charged 3 times to 100% with different results.

The first time the expected distance available was 460 kms, a little under what is expected for a 2WD 72.6 kWh battery.

The second time 100% charge offered 404 kms and the third time 394 kms.

The manual states on page 1-10:

”the distance to empty is calculated on the real time electric energy efficiency while driving.”

”The distance to empty may vary according to the change of driving pattern even if the same target battery charge level is set”.

Now I obviously understand that the use of the stored energy will vary given how the car is driven and the ancillary systems used BUT this seems to indicate that the distance shown as available at 100% charge is based on the conditions the vehicle has encountered since the previous charge and not on the potential available based on the battery capacity.

If that is the case then the distance shown as available is not really helpful as conditions during the next period of driving may be vastly different and, indeed much better than previously encountered.

For short journeys this doesn’t matter much but if planning a long trip it makes planning harder.

Alternatively, could it be that the battery array has a “memory” and the capacity shown as 100% is not always 72.6 kWh. This “memory” problem with Lithium Ion batteries showed up in camera batteries and the only way to re-set was to run the battery to zero.

On another point, today, using the navigation map, an icon similar to an AA battery standing on its end with a red diagonal line across it appeared intermittently during the whole 104kms trip, at the top of the screen next to the time.

After the car had been stopped for some time and using the navigation map again the icon failed to appear on the return trip of 104 kms.

Having spent the evening scouring the manual and downloading the navigation manual, I can find no mention of that icon.

Any ideas?

hooch-85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643765#Comment_118643765

Shop around. Some dealers are adding an extra cut on top. We were quoted similar in two dealers in Cork and Limerick for the Executive 58. We dealt at €40k which included dealer delivery and metallic, dealer was Fitzpatrick's Kildare. Prices have gone up since November though where some people got them for 39/39.5k, there was another 500 hike since we ordered ours in January.

Radharc na Sleibhte

What are people doing here?

I had it on. Switched it off this evening just to see. What does it do if anything at our 9c?

seadal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643815#Comment_118643815

Thanks for the replies... the price quoted is for the entry level 58kw, metallic paint, no heat pump. I'll go back to the dealer for a breakdown of charges, it's good to know what deals others got though, thanks again.

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118644096#Comment_118644096

Winter mode does what it says on the tin. From what I've seen elsewhere it becomes worthwhile around 2 degrees C and is really for sub zero temperatures.

slave1

The second time 100% charge offered 404 kms and the third time 394 kms.

Touching 400kms for a body shape of this car in the worst weather is very very good.

Was that range actually achievable?

crisco10

Have had a few issues with setting up nighttime charging by the Bluelink App. Basically, I used the app to schedule charging for between 12 and 8, but it has behaved funny on some occasions.

Once, it didn't start charging. I was up with my baby at 3am and checked and when I say it wasn't charging I managed to get it going by turning schedule off and on again.

then last night, it randomly started charging at 6am or so (but then obviously stopped at 8 so didn't fully charge up the car).

It has also worked just fine on a couple of occasions.

Anyone else using Bluelink for this? Any other experiences/advice?

I have a Zappi, so long term I would prefer to set the times up on it and leave the car as "always charging". I did try a few times but it doesn't work either. I don't have a hub, and the weather has been pretty miserable to be standing outside troubleshooting it. (I'm a Mechanical engineer, who works in Power Gen, so am pretty comfortable with all this but just haven't had time to fiddle it out! )

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645134#Comment_118645134

No, but the achievable range isn’t the point.

According to Hyundai, a brand new Ioniq 5, two wheel drive with a 72.6 kWh battery should have a top driving range of 481 kms. Whilst this will obviously not be achievable under anything but perfect conditions, with no accessories used, it should be expected that, with only around 1000 kms on the clock, a 100% charge would show 481 kms, as it did when the dealer handed it to me fully charged.

A different reading every time is not only annoying for planning purposes but raises the thought of some kind of error.

I think the clue is in the quotes from the manual I previously quoted which indicate that the offered range will vary for the same amount of charge based on the previous use of the charge.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out in better weather and different use of the car.

Pivot Eoin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118644042#Comment_118644042

The software adjusts based on your recent driving. So for many people they do the same type of driving all the time, hence using the average consumption from recent driving to calculate your current range makes sense.

I think this really comes down to preference. If it's a huge issue for someone they can reset the averages by holding down the OK button when looking at the drive statistics on the driver display.

Some simple maths to calculate your current range based on your current average efficiency for the current drive should be a piece of cake.

slave1

My gut feeling would be 400kms tops in ideal conditions, less on motorway due to drag.

Time will tell

PhilBky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645345#Comment_118645345

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645312#Comment_118645312

Again, I’m not talking about achievable range, rather why a 100% charge gives a different range every time. As I said in previous posts, I think the clue is in the manual but there is no real clarity.

in my previous Hyundai i40 if I filled the tank the computer would give me a range varying only by a few kms depending on if I stopped fuelling at the first click on the pump or topped off to the brim.

The range would then go down depending on how the driving style affected that fill.

The Ioniq 5 seems to be working on an algorithm based on the immediate previous use rather than the theoretical range of a full battery which, like the i40 would adjust in real time as the car was driven.

Perhaps Hyundai are between the devil and the deep blue sea with this one.

If every time a 100% charge showed 481kms, the immediate very large drop in range when using accessories and motorway speeds would cause concern.

On the other hand showing a different range based on previous use which, hopefully, will not reduce as quickly if accessories and motorway speeds are not involved is not really helpful either.

It would be logical to think, assuming the range shown is based on the previous driving style, that a change of driver settings to that of a driver with a different style would change the range. This is not so.

My wife’s driving style and use of the car is very different to mine. When I change the car to her settings, everything - seat, mirrors, display etc all change but the offered range stays the same.

Summer2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645645#Comment_118645645

Does the predicted range not take account of temperature? That's what I would have thought anyway. If it shows 481km at 100% at 12 midday when it's 10 degrees , it might only show 380km at 100% at 6am when it's 2 degrees outside. The temperature has a big affect on range.

slave1

I've my car set to Battery percentage and not range, this would be the preferred view by many early EV adopters

NIMAN

Range stated on the dashs of EVs are only guesstimates.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118632403#Comment_118632403

I like that.

I already liked the normal I5 and had considered jumping ship but would miss the current performance.

This would help!

Probably €75k car here though.

denismc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645266#Comment_118645266

I have been using the Zappi to schedule charging for the last 3 years and it has been 100% reliable.

I have it set to charge the car to coincide with the night rate electricity.

The only time I change is when the clocks go back/ forward.