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Penny Farthings, Legality and responsibility.

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    #512
    magicbastarder
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    we're talking about penny farthings and someone is commenting that we sound old. i don't know how to react.


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    #513
    CramCycle
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    we're talking about penny farthings and someone is commenting that we sound old. i don't know how to react.

    Woah, over 30 is not old. I mean, I'd calrify what old is but I don't want to offend some of the people who think they are young around here.


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    #514
    smacl
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Woah, over 30 is not old.

    Rather depends how much over 30....


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    #515
    beauf
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    smacl wrote: »
    Rather depends how much over 30....

    60 seems young if you are 90.

    The F15 Fighter jets are 40+ years old.


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    #516
    magicbastarder
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    i am of a certain age that 'blue lines' and 'nevermind' formed part of the soundtrack of my youth.
    to a 16 year old today, they are so far back in time (more than 29 years), that it would have been like the 16 year old me having to go back earlier than *the beatles'* first album to reach a similarly old piece of music.
    and i'm not even that old!


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    #517
    magicbastarder
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    Penny-farthing sales surge in lockdown as suppliers struggle to keep up with demand
    https://inews.co.uk/news/consumer/penny-farthings-lockdown-sales-surge-demand-doubles-827047?ito=twitter_share_article-top


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    #518
    beauf
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    So funny


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    #519
    tomasrojo
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    Since the pandemic, people have had time to think about their lives
    .


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    #520
    beauf
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    Kind of true isn't it.


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    #521
    magicbastarder
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    i finally had some time for some self reflection, and realised that i needed to retrain as a life coach, and oh, buy a penny farthing.


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    #522
    breezy1985
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    £1295 for one. They really are the new dryrobe


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    #523
    07Lapierre
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    I don’t see the attraction of PF’s. The “safety bicycle” caught on for a reason. I also don’t like the idea that once your on one, your invisible to the naked eye! ;)


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    #524
    breezy1985
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    07Lapierre wrote: »
    I don’t see the attraction of PF’s. The “safety bicycle” caught on for a reason. I also don’t like the idea that once your on one, your invisible to the naked eye! ;)

    Also the name penny farthing smacks of British colonialism. It should be a €2 5c bike


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    #525
    magicbastarder
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    the gas thing about bikes is that despite all the attempts over the years to 'improve' on the double triangle design, since its invention, they fall by the wayside and we're back to it again.
    GT just got greedy in the 90s (or was it 80s?) with the triple triangle design, but i have seen hints of it on some bikes again in the last few years.


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    #526
    tomasrojo
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    Well, the recumbent design has hung around, though it's niche (not as niche as a penny farthing), and various folding/disassembly designs aren't strictly diamond frame: say, a Moulton or a Brompton (though you definitely could argue they're just very heavily distorted double-diamond frames).

    But the diamond frame/chain/differential gear combo is just a stone-cold classic, and was as total a game changer as ever existed, I guess.


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    #527
    magicbastarder
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    folding bikes and double triangle frames are just too awkward to bring together, i guess?
    muddy fox do market something approaching one, and it should come with a NSFW warning, it's that ugly (and unsafe) looking.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Muddyfox-Compact-Mens-Folding-Mountain/dp/B07F8GZYGL


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    #528
    cletus
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    Does Mike Ashley still own Muddy Fox? And if so, is he still just sticking the logo on any old crap, or is it being run like a proper company, with r&d etc.


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    #529
    magicbastarder
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    i think he does. i think it's just a brand lashing their logo onto anything a supplier can get for them (but many bike brands are like that anyway)


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    #530
    tomasrojo
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    folding bikes and double triangle frames are just too awkward to bring together, i guess?
    muddy fox do market something approaching one, and it should come with a NSFW warning, it's that ugly (and unsafe) looking.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Muddyfox-Compact-Mens-Folding-Mountain/dp/B07F8GZYGL

    Yeah, the Brompton has a rear triangle and then a tiny frame triangle with what is really a low top tube extending far ahead of the frame triangle. The fancier Moulton frame seems to use a framework of triangles, bit like a crane.


    That Muddyfox is inelegant alright.


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    #531
    breezy1985
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    the gas thing about bikes is that despite all the attempts over the years to 'improve' on the double triangle design, since its invention, they fall by the wayside and we're back to it again.
    GT just got greedy in the 90s (or was it 80s?) with the triple triangle design, but i have seen hints of it on some bikes again in the last few years.

    Manufacturers did improve on the double triangle for TT bikes in the 90s and it only reverted because UCI decided things were getting silly and brought out strict rules for what constitutes a bike


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    #532
    magicbastarder
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    TT bikes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo05orh1UsQ


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    #533
    Eamonnator
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    folding bikes and double triangle frames are just too awkward to bring together, i guess?
    muddy fox do market something approaching one, and it should come with a NSFW warning, it's that ugly (and unsafe) looking.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Muddyfox-Compact-Mens-Folding-Mountain/dp/B07F8GZYGL

    I'm old enough to remember, when Muddy Fox made proper bikes.
    Does this make me old?


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    #534
    cletus
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    Eamonnator wrote: »
    I'm old enough to remember, when Muddy Fox made proper bikes.
    Does this make me old?

    Depends. Were you 50 at the time?


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    #535
    Eamonnator
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    cletus wrote: »
    Depends. Were you 50 at the time?

    not quite


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    #536
    Eamonnator
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    cletus wrote: »
    Depends. Were you 50 at the time?

    I remember one of the Athertons, think it was Gee, riding a Muddy Fox rebadged Intense M1. That's about 20 years ago.


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    #537
    cletus
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    Eamonnator wrote: »
    I remember one of the Athertons, think it was Gee, riding a Muddy Fox rebadged Intense M1. That's about 20 years ago.

    So around 2000. Muddy Fox weren't Muddy Fox by then. They went to the wall around '92-'93. They were sold a number of times, until Mike Ashley bought them, which was around '00, I think, and started slapping that logo on anything he could.


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    #538
    magicbastarder
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    Eamonnator wrote: »
    I'm old enough to remember, when Muddy Fox made proper bikes.
    Does this make me old?
    my first 'decent' bike was a courier comp.


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    #539
    beauf
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    How about this...Shweeb Racer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9UvNqFsCug&ab_channel=VelocityValley


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    #540
    cletus
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    beauf wrote: »
    How about this...Shweeb Racer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9UvNqFsCug&ab_channel=VelocityValley

    Do you have to buy the tracks separately?


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    #541
    Eamonnator
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    cletus wrote: »
    So around 2000. Muddy Fox weren't Muddy Fox by then. They went to the wall around '92-'93. They were sold a number of times, until Mike Ashley bought them, which was around '00, I think, and started slapping that logo on anything he could.

    I started mountainbiking around '91 or '92.
    I seem to remember a few lads around the Dublin area and N.I. having Muddy Foxes. They were well regarded at that time.
    And I think, around that time, there were a few M.F. BMXs floating around


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