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Hse scammed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Where's the "scam"

    First article links to ventilators that seem not to be of standard. I wouldn't call it a "scam", more inexperienced and rushing to make a buck without proper checks.

    2nd article is about a fund raising / charity initiative that was looking at PPE but did not proceed. Nothing to do with hse.


    It was strange times last March. People made rash decisions, not just here, but all over the world.

    If you really want to see incompetence and suckers for scams, see how much the NHS wasted. It's in the hundreds of millions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Where's the "scam"

    First article links to ventilators that seem not to be of standard. I wouldn't call it a "scam", more inexperienced and rushing to make a buck without proper checks.

    2nd article is about a fund raising / charity initiative that was looking at PPE but did not proceed. Nothing to do with hse.


    It was strange times last March. People made rash decisions, not just here, but all over the world.

    If you really want to see incompetence and suckers for scams, see how much the NHS wasted. It's in the hundreds of millions.

    Billions not hundreds of millions. 22Bn on their track and trace system alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    You have to remember that back in March/April there was an absolutely mad scramble to get ventilators. There was a huge amount of uncertainty and confusion, and it was thought that we'd need thousands of them. Turns out we didn't, and now they're not even used as the primary treatment for most critical cases. Health systems all over the world were getting them from wherever they could. Ventilator manufactures suspended their patents to allow other companies to manufacture them. Dyson started designing one for the NHS (that ended up not being made or used). People were 3D printing parts at home.

    In hindsight, it's easy to call out the unnecessary money spend on all this, but at the time, in the thick of it, it was all that could be done.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Billions not hundreds of millions. 22Bn on their track and trace system alone.
    And were a dismal failure, billions spaffed up the wall and all they got for it was a borked system that couldn't even handle Excel imports.

    In terms of IT quality control that's like not checking if there were enough wheels on the car. On a system where failure means human lives will be lost, not just put at risk.

    At the same time existing teams from local councils were able to trace in the high nineties % because of local knowledge. Our Covid app cost about €800,000. Their first failed attempt cost about ten times that before it got pulled like everyone said it would be. And it had major data protection issues so wouldn't have been used.

    F*cking chumocracy, it would be funny if a thousand people a day weren't dying now.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And were a dismal failure, billions spaffed up the wall and all they got for it was a borked system that couldn't even handle Excel imports.

    In terms of IT quality control that's like not checking if there were enough wheels on the car. On a system where failure means human lives will be lost, not just put at risk.



    F*cking chumocracy, it would be funny if a thousand people a day weren't dying now.

    1000 people a day ??? Today 17 people died in Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    1000 people a day ??? Today 17 people died in Ireland.

    They're talking about the UK.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    I linked to this guy weeks ago in the conspiracy forum-he's also involved with the health passport stuff.
    https://www.healthpassportireland.ie/gdpr


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