ISME getting in bed with the far right

AndrewJRenko

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Because it stirs up hatred against vulnerable people. If you can't see that, that says a lot about you.

'How is any of that 'stirring up hatred?'

'because it stirs up hatred against vulnerable people' isn't really much of an answer.


How does it stir up hatred against vulnerable people?

Unshelved

Ah John McGuirk - where to start? How about here? A pen portrait from The Phoenix in 2007. He's had many different roles since then - all of which seem to have ended badly. Perhaps his employers should have read this first?

Topgear on Dave

Hhhhh wrote: »

Stir up hatred or report facts?

A lot of its rubbish but occasionally it throws up interesting bits & pieces.

Some body is making nice cheese on this one. 100 grand handed over, for what end? For what output? What does Joe taxpayer gain for this? Money was given to Uplift, a website for gathering signatures.

https://gript.ie/over-100000-in-public-money-to-be-given-to-anonymous-far-left-group/

If the "far right" are doing something illegal send the cops after them.

AndrewJRenko

Hhhhh wrote: »

Peter Casey and over 50% of boards users.

Don't make me post all the press articles identifying Casey as far right again.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

The name just reminds me of either the flu (la grippe) or something to do with gripping one’s self.

Just find it hard to take very seriously.

Eric Cartman

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Don't make me post all the press articles identifying Casey as far right again.

Peter casey was a realist who was 2-3 notches right of centre, on the same level of the british conservative party pointing out the madness of spending inexcusable amounts of money on a group of people who detract from almost every area in society

Burt Renaults

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Peter casey was a realist who was 2-3 notches right of centre, on the same level of the british conservative party pointing out the madness of spending inexcusable amounts of money on a group of people who detract from almost every area in society

Peter Casey was whatever he felt would get himself the most votes from gullible people at any given time. He tapped into the fact that a lot of thick people hate all Travellers because of the behaviour of some Travellers. A snake oil salesman.

AndrewJRenko

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Don't make me post all the press articles identifying Casey as far right again.

All of them? You posted an opinion piece from some complete nobody who now lives in America, and another that gave Peter Casey two lines and didn't even refer to him as far right from what I remember.

He isn't far right, and referring to him as such is preposterous.

AndrewJRenko

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Take your pick. They do seem just a little obsessed, don't they?








They couldn't be more Trump if McGuirk wore an orange wig.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/facebook-looking-into-link-between-irish-website-and-firm-that-breached-privacy-laws-1.4149486

Can you point out one article there that you believe stirs up hate?

And tell me what exactly about it is hateful, and which parts are untrue.

Or is it your belief that every article about George nkencho, transgenderism and illegal immigrants must be written with a positive slant?

Anything less is stirring up hate?

AndrewJRenko

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Because it stirs up hatred against vulnerable people. If you can't see that, that says a lot about you.

The fact that you think articles about ILLEGAL immigrants should only be positive says a lot about you.

Billy Mays

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Seems like anything right of stalin is ‘far right’ these days

You've got some pretty strong far right views yourself if we're being honest

Billy Mays

Billy Mays wrote: »

You've got some pretty strong far right views yourself if we're being honest

Lol.

What far right views?

When does right become far right in your eyes?

Billy Mays

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol.

What far right views?

When does right become far right in your eyes?

Lol?

Calling for the British government to start executing migrants crossing the channel before they reach land is a pretty extreme far right view to hold

Billy Mays

Billy Mays wrote: »

Lol?

Calling for the British government to start executing migrants crossing the channel before they reach land is a pretty extreme far right view to hold

Ha. Fair point. Don't remember seeing him say that.

That would certainly class as far right in my estimation.

Billy Mays

Far right and completely f*cking scummy

Billy Mays

Billy Mays wrote: »

Far right and completely f*cking scummy

I'd need to see the full quote in context to decide but yeah, sounds grim

Mad_maxx

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Peter casey was a realist who was 2-3 notches right of centre, on the same level of the british conservative party pointing out the madness of spending inexcusable amounts of money on a group of people who detract from almost every area in society

Casey wasn't up to much as he is a pretty awful speaker but he was right about travellers and the interesting thing about that whole episode was how the media attacked him as a united pack for daring to speak truth about one of their sacred cows

Akrasia

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti climate science - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check
Anti ‘socialism’ - check
Anti Anti racism - check
Anti charity - check
Anti - Horneless people (this is a wierd one ) - check
Pro Celtic mythology - (not a bad thing in itself but happens to be a dog whistle to the very far right)


Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021
Fanboys of Thomas Sowell

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

Billy Mays

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd need to see the full quote in context to decide but yeah, sounds grim

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058075749&page=35

Third post down

Mad_maxx

Burt Renaults wrote: »

Peter Casey was whatever he felt would get himself the most votes from gullible people at any given time. He tapped into the fact that a lot of thick people hate all Travellers because of the behaviour of some Travellers. A snake oil salesman.

Hate the game, not the player


I'd be fine with travellers if they were like the amish, the amish opt out of society but they don't cost the American tax payer a fortune and don't engage in rampant criminality and anti social behaviour

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti vaccine - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check

Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

Did you see the headlines and decide the content or did you read the articles?

Were they factually correct but just against your opinion?

So only pro immigration, pro lockdown, pro vaccine, pro radical feminism, pro trans, pro dole scroungers, and pro abortion views will make you not far right/breitbart

Mad_maxx

Akrasia wrote: »

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti vaccine - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check
Anti ‘socialism’ - check
Anti Anti racism - check
Anti charity - check
Anti - Horneless people (this is a wierd one ) - check
Pro Celtic mythology - (not a bad thing in itself but happens to be a dog whistle to the very far right)


Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021
Fanboys of Thomas Sowell

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

So Jordan peterson is far right now ? :rolleyes:

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti climate science - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check
Anti ‘socialism’ - check
Anti Anti racism - check
Anti charity - check
Anti - Horneless people (this is a wierd one ) - check
Pro Celtic mythology - (not a bad thing in itself but happens to be a dog whistle to the very far right)


Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021
Fanboys of Thomas Sowell

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

Also started pushing anti face masks nonsense during a global pandemic. So they very much so want to appeal to all fringe lunatics.

Akrasia

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did you see the headlines and decide the content or did you read the articles?

Were they factually correct but just against your opinion?

So only pro immigration, pro lockdown, pro vaccine, pro radical feminism, pro trans, pro dole scroungers, and pro abortion views will make you not far right/breitbart

I didn’t read the articles, why would I need to when the headlines are more than enough to give away the editorial position of the website.

It’s not the content of an individual article that matters, it’s the choice of what to focus on, and what not to focus on. They focus entirely on topics that appeal to people on the far right of the political spectrum. They talk about the cost of carbon tax but never talk about the impact of climate change, they talk about the cost of lockdown but do not talk about why there was a lockdown (hint, the global pandemic) (except when they want to blame China for spreading the virus of course)
They have whole sections about ‘why I left the left’

It’s clearly and unambiguously a publication aimed at promoting a right wing world view and they deliberately do not give a full picture as they will always bias their coverage by leaving out facts that do not promote this view

Akrasia

Mad_maxx wrote: »

So Jordan peterson is far right now ? :rolleyes:

Yes and he always was

He’s also a complete clown of a man in so many ways

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

I didn’t read the articles, why would I need to when the headlines are more than enough to give away the editorial position of the website.

It’s not the content of an individual article that matters, it’s the choice of what to focus on, and what not to focus on. They focus entirely on topics that appeal to people on the far right of the political spectrum. They talk about the cost of carbon tax but never talk about the impact of climate change, they talk about the cost of lockdown but do not talk about why there was a lockdown (hint, the global pandemic)
They have whole sections about ‘why I left the left’

It’s clearly and unambiguously a publication aimed at promoting a right wing world view and they deliberately do not give a full picture as they will always bias their coverage by leaving out facts that do not promote this view

It is absolutely undeniably aimed for people on the right. That doesn't make it far right.

And do you complain that most media promotes left leaning topics?

Is it not good to have a balance?

If you could point out some factual inaccuracies in their articles you might have a point. But your main gripe seems to be that they are focussing on stories you don't want to hear, and as you tellingly said, it's not the content of an individual article that matters.

You don't like that they focus on things you disagree with, even if it's factually correct.

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

Yes and he always was

He’s also a complete clown of a man in so many ways

Can you give me an example of someone who is not far right and just right?

Or even give me a quick bullet point list of why you (wrongly imo) consider Jordan Peterson far right?

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti climate science - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check
Anti ‘socialism’ - check
Anti Anti racism - check
Anti charity - check
Anti - Horneless people (this is a wierd one ) - check
Pro Celtic mythology - (not a bad thing in itself but happens to be a dog whistle to the very far right)


Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021
Fanboys of Thomas Sowell

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

They certainly know how to appeal to people who are generally dicks, have a screw loose etc, same as any similar type of media does.

TomTomTim

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you give me an example of someone who is not far right and just right?

Or even give me a quick bullet point list of why you (wrongly imo) consider Jordan Peterson far right?

He's sympathetic to Christianity and calls the far left out for being the lunatics that they are. That alone is enough to get him labelled far right now days. You know all those videos/times where he called out extremism on both sides? That was him pushing far right politics according to great intellectuals of the left.

TomTomTim

Akrasia wrote: »

Never heard of GRIPT before so went to their page this morning

Anti immigration - check
Anti lockdown - check
Anti climate science - check
Anti feminist - check
Anti trans - check
Anti ‘dole scroungers- check
Anti abortion - check
Anti ‘socialism’ - check
Anti Anti racism - check
Anti charity - check
Anti - Horneless people (this is a wierd one ) - check
Pro Celtic mythology - (not a bad thing in itself but happens to be a dog whistle to the very far right)


Bonus points for having an article promoting Jordan Peterson in 2021
Fanboys of Thomas Sowell

It’s an Irish version of Breitbart and anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial

The far right, all throughout human histroy, have been known for their love of black intellectuals. Thank you for this comprehensive list, wise one.