Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

22 ICU beds left is grim.

I have the dinghy afloat and ready to be untethered. Destination Lithuania where they have triple ICU bed capacity with half the population of ours. Room for a few more, expect to alight in Vilnius next fortnight.

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have the dinghy afloat and ready to be untethered. Destination Lithuania where they have triple ICU bed capacity with half the population of ours. Room for a few more, expect to alight in Vilnius next fortnight.

Can we "wfb"?

theguzman

Stheno wrote: »

Can we "wfb"?

With a starlink connection it should be possible.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058078616

Richard Hillman

We are more ****ed now that the last thread. I wonder how ****ed we'll be by the next one

Dr. Bre

Stay at home !

Plumbthedepths

GreeBo wrote: »

It's not just the hospitals or beds though, staff is becoming s real issue, CUH are down 100 at the moment I believe

If only some of our trained people travelled back home to answer the call....oh wait they did.

majcos

ax530 wrote: »

Think ICU beds are not just beds but staff. If the staff are not available to work the 'bed' is not an ICU bed

When HSE/INMO talk about hospital beds, they are referring to far more than the physical bed. Des Kelly once offered beds during a Winter trolley crisis but it is more complex than that.

An ICU bed needs very specialised staff with very specialised equipment. An ICU ‘bed’ refers to the anesthetist, the ICU nurse with one nurse per patient 24 hours a day seven days a week, and ideally healthcare assistants, physiotherapist, dietician, pharmacist, porters, etc.

One ICU Covid patient could potentially need a number of specialists/consultants including a general physician, infectious disease consultant and/or microbiologist, respiratory physician, nephrologist, cardiologist, stroke specialist, haematologist, ENT surgeon, perhaps even a vascular surgeon, and a rehabilitation consultant. I’m sure I have missed others. Each patient would hopefully not need all of these but in different individuals a mix of the above is necessary.

Add to that a radiographer, radiologist, laboratory staff, clinically engineer,...

mcburns07

Such nostalgia reading some of those names on the banned list.

How I long for the good old days of July 2020.

JP Liz V1

Tpcl20 wrote: »

Looks like supermarket click and collect will still be allowed.

What about food takeaway?

brookers

cjyid wrote: »

It'll be a rough few weeks but we'll get through it.

Hopefully we will all stay safe......colleague has just tested positive, we meet the public every day for long periods of time, answering questions, gov department. staff petrified and that includes even the younger staff who were covid sceptics untill recently.

stephenjmcd

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What about food takeaway?

Yeah thats all fine, as it was in March last year

TonyMaloney

majcos wrote: »

When HSE/INMO talk about hospital beds, they are referring to far more than the physical bed. Des Kelly once offered beds during a Winter trolley crisis but it is more complex than that.

An ICU bed needs very specialised staff with very specialised equipment. An ICU ‘bed’ refers to the anesthetist, the ICU nurse with one nurse per patient 24 hours a day seven days a week, and ideally healthcare assistants, physiotherapist, dietician, pharmacist, porters, etc.

One ICU Covid patient could potentially need a number of specialists/consultants including a general physician, infectious disease consultant and/or microbiologist, respiratory physician, nephrologist, cardiologist, stroke specialist, haematologist, ENT surgeon, perhaps even a vascular surgeon, and a rehabilitation consultant. I’m sure I have missed others. Each patient would hopefully not need all of these but in different individuals a mix of the above is necessary.

Add to that a radiographer, radiologist, laboratory staff, clinically engineer,...

Yeah, but Des Kelly's beds had memory foam.

Swings and roundabouts

Stheno

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah thats all fine, as it was in March last year

I can see them banning takeaway pints though

PsychoPete

Stheno wrote: »

I can see them banning takeaway pints though

No harm, takeaway pints is an absolutely ridiculous idea

Eod100

prunudo wrote: »

When do we get proper details on these new pending restrictions.

Cabinet meeting at 10.30 am so guess sometime tomorrow afternoon/evening officially but plenty of leaks and speculation in between.

stephenjmcd

Stheno wrote: »

I can see them banning takeaway pints though

Appearently not, all takeaway services are fine.

They were fine back in March and April last year, don't see the difference now. Your not going to have groups on the street drinking

Deeper Blue

mcburns07 wrote: »

Such nostalgia reading some of those names on the banned list.

How I long for the good old days of July 2020.

#JusticeForPaddyGreen

Eod100

Stheno wrote: »

I can see them banning takeaway pints though

Say they'll have to really if pretty much everything else is.

KrustyUCC

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Yep ICU beds have a 1:1 nurse ratio and the nurse must be ICU and ventilator trained.

Yes it is very specialist but needs must sometimes

You can turn 'ordinary' beds into ICU beds if you have the ventilators etc

My brother is an ICU nurse in London

They're getting overwhelmed so they have 'regular' nurses doing stuff like turning patients over so the ICU trained nurse can look after the most serious cases and read the equipment etc

It may come to that here but you can certainly do it on a short term basis

Stateofyou

So seriously, no one is concerned about that SA strain though?
Matt Hancock said he's extremely worried, he has been working with his counterparts in S. Africa and the research they've done on the mutated strain shows that the structure has changed significantly and they don't think the current vaccines will do the job.
UK has closed off travel from SA, quarantined recent travellers, and said they found some of the new strain in the UK already. That's it's even more contagious than the new UK one. This came from their Health secretary.

I honestly can't understand why this news isn't everywhere right now.

penelope2012

Or look up Zara King or Richard Chambers on Twitter they always have the county breakdown as soon as the daily figures are announced

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Scroll down til you hit the map

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

tobefrank321

ax530 wrote: »

Think ICU beds are not just beds but staff. If the staff are not available to work the 'bed' is not an ICU bed

But surely they spent the last 6 months training up staff? It feels like the HSE didn't expect another wave and have ended up winging it. Zero preparation as allows.
They trumpeted 17 extra icu beds which still haven't come on stream and would be used up in 2 days at current rates.

Northernlily

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We are more ****ed now that the last thread. I wonder how ****ed we'll be by the next one

I think this will be a very ****ed thread and probably the next one. Hopefully halfway through the next one we will be on the way back.

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Appearently not, all takeaway services are fine.

They were fine back in March and April last year, don't see the difference now. Your not going to have groups on the street drinking

I hope that's right

Take away pints were meant to be a way of supporting pubs not a way of hanging out and street drinking

I'll bet the government will get fierce stick for not banning them though

Northernlily

mcburns07 wrote: »

Such nostalgia reading some of those names on the banned list.

How I long for the good old days of July 2020.

Plenty of characters to be fair.

A good few repeat offenders, should let them go to war in their own thread like the hunger games and see who is the last poster standing.

Deeper Blue

Stateofyou wrote: »

So seriously, no one is concerned about that SA strain though?
Matt Hancock said he's extremely worried, he has been working with his counterparts in S. Africa and the research they've done on the mutated strain shows that the structure has changed significantly and they don't think the current vaccines will do the job.
UK has closed off travel from SA, quarantined recent travellers, and said they found some of the new strain in the UK already. That's it's even more contagious than the new UK one. This came from their Health secretary.

I honestly can't understand why this news isn't everywhere right now.

They've said it may affect vaccine effectiveness. Key word being may. Also they've said it's extremely unlikely to render the vaccines useless.

Personally I think it'll end up like the mink thing, nobody will be talking about it in a few weeks time

bluefivetwo23

Back to work tomorrow in my hospitality setting job serving takeaway.

Dreading it and still considering quitting my job at this stage. Zero distancing between myself and colleagues and the cafe itself still gets very busy with those queueing to order and then queueing to collect, all inside.

I was hoping against hope take away only would be changed to only be places that can offer drive thru or collect at hatch services.

Arghus

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah thats all fine, as it was in March last year

It wasn't mandated by law AFAIK, but a lot of takeaways were closed during March and April.

Supermac's only reopened again for drive through and delivery in a few outlets on April 22nd. McDonald's came after that, initially only drive through also.

Similar situation with takeaway pints - I really can't remember anyone near me with them available until it was early May.

stephenjmcd

Arghus wrote: »

It wasn't mandated by law AFAIK, but a lot of takeaways were closed during March and April.

Supermac's only reopened again for drive through and delivery in a few outlets on April 22nd. McDonald's came after that, initially only drive through also.

Similar situation with takeaway pints - I really can't remember anyone near me with them available until it was early May.

Was up to each place, the chains seemed to close alright.

McDonald's going back to drive through and delivery anyway they've said.

In my area think most takeaways were open and we'd two pubs doing take away food and drink more or less from the get go. They asked the Garda station and they said it was grand, covered through the off licence and a takeaway so no issues there.

Richard Hillman

Northernlily wrote: »

I think this will be a very ****ed thread and probably the next one. Hopefully halfway through the next one we will be on the way back.

It's like the TV series Lost. It was exciting and freaky at first, now its just warbling on with cliffhangers of new strains, vaccines and new Lockdowns. And we know full well we'll be disappointed with the ending.

I gave up after a couple of series. Now if there was somewhere else I can give up to, I'd go.