Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

Turtwig

political analyst wrote: »

Many Irish doctors and nurses who worked abroad came home at the start of the pandemic to help. Wouldn't giving them permanent employment in the HSE increase the number of ICU beds?

Possibly depends on their expertise.

ICU is a complex beast. A patient may require a whole host of specialists. Anaesthesiologist, nephralogist, cardiologists, haematologists, etc. Etc. Then you have the specialists nurses for 1 to 1 care, the imaging diagnostics such as radiographers, clinical staff maintenance of equipment, porters etc.

I doubt we got enough of all these to return home. Especially when they'd have been needed where they were.

KrustyUCC

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

So who pays for this?

The passenger pays in other countries and should here as well

ginoginelli

The ovewheliming majority of the scientific community are now calling for hotel quaratining from abroad.

We have seen what happens when their advice is not followed. Let's pray the goverment listen to them this time and save alot of people from dying.

majcos

Larry King RIP. Obviously he was highly vulnerable. Sad that two of his children died in the last year (non-Covid related).

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/us-talk-show-host-larry-king-dies-aged-87-1.4466454

TheValeyard

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2021/01/22/lockdown-might-last-into-march-taoiseach-tells-nation-that-already-figured-this-out-4-weeks-ago/

Didn't know they did real stories! Lol

Atlantic Dawn

political analyst wrote: »

Many Irish doctors and nurses who worked abroad came home at the start of the pandemic to help. Wouldn't giving them permanent employment in the HSE increase the number of ICU beds?

There seems to be a set number of ICU's no matter what budget or staff is brought in, I guess the unions set this number, no other reason it makes any sense.

h2005

Gael23 wrote: »

MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO

Considering the population of the country can't travel beyond 5km at the moment unless for essential reasons I'd say about ****ing time. Also, a mandatory quartine should be in place for visitors to here. We can't do anything about those coming from the North but at least control what we can.

prunudo

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There seems to be a set number of ICU's no matter what budget or staff is brought in, I guess the unions set this number, no other reason it makes any sense.

Well believe it, heard a story recently of a Dublin hospital where unions are vetoing whether certain applicants were given positions or not. Predominantly it was not.
Their hold on the hse and operation of hospitals needs to be investigated and brought to light.

ax530

I don't think the compulsory quarantine would work here by time all set up, contracts agreed and in place would not be needed.
Hotel employees may like teacher not want to work in dangerous environment government would then need to back track, change plan ect
I do know someone who traveled into county over Christmas period, stayed in a house with 2 family members for 3 weeks. No social activities or mixing.
Private test few days before leaving their country and 5 days after arrival here did same when returning it can be done.

is_that_so

ax530 wrote: »

I don't think the compulsory quarantine would work here by time all set up, contracts agreed and in place would not be needed.
Hotel employees may like teacher not want to work in dangerous environment government would then need to back track, change plan ect
I do know someone who traveled into county over Christmas period, stayed in a house with 2 family members for 3 weeks. No social activities or mixing.
Private test few days before leaving their country and 5 days after arrival here did same when returning it can be done.

Coveney said yesterday that there is high compliance with the negative PCR requirement for travel.

Happydays2020

is_that_so wrote: »

Coveney said yesterday that there is high compliance with the negative PCR requirement for travel.

And I can believe that. But that will not stop the baying for blood.

cjyid

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

MerlinSouthDub

cjyid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

Good enough numbers again. 40% lower swabs than last Saturday.

marno21

cjyid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

Wonderful. 3133 last Saturday so another large drop.

KrustyUCC

cjyid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

Great stuff

Very good swabs and nice to see positivity rate

The way things have been going the past week expect around 2300 cases today but i'd like to be surprised

funnydoggy

All this panic and doom & gloom - what's to say we won't have another summer like 2020? Low case numbers, very little deaths, fewer restrictions.

stephenjmcd

cjyid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

Good to see another nice drop on last week. It won't be at the pace some would like but everything is dropping steadily

Rebelbrowser

funnydoggy wrote: »

All this panic and doom & gloom - what's to say we won't have another summer like 2020? Low case numbers, very little deaths, fewer restrictions.

I think we might. There seems to be a seasonality to this thing, just like the flu, that science doesn't fully understand.

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1353002642256121858

MerlinSouthDub

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Great stuff

Very good swabs and nice to see positivity rate

The way things have been going the past week expect around 2300 cases today but i'd like to be surprised

There's very little backlog so hopefully under 2000 today.

( The unknown here is that private testing is included in case numbers but possibly isn't included in swab numbers)

Jim_Hodge

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

I think we might. There seems to be a seasonality to this thing, just like the flu, that science doesn't fully understand.

Science says it's not possible to refer or infer seasonality when it has only been around for a single year.

MerlinSouthDub

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Science says it's not possible to refer or infer seasonality when it has only been around for a single year.

Science does tell us that the virus is more likely to spread indoors and in poor ventilation (both of which are more likely to be the case in winter).

KrustyUCC

Yes that would be great to see

I'm a bit more cautious as even on Tuesday 1682 turned into 2001 cases

cases do seem to be a few hundred more than swabs recently

Yes maybe it's private testing is the difference alright

1917 is close to 2000 for being under it but under 2000 would be a nice boost

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1353004118684659712

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good to see another nice drop on last week. It won't be at the pace some would like but everything is dropping steadily

I think it's good mentally to see it below 2000 even if not by much. Shows our efforts are making a difference

Eod100

And even now they're only considering mandatory quarantine for 5 days for anyone without a not detected PCR test. I can't understand why they're so reluctant to do it tbh. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352984889818275840?s=19

froog

astrazeneca is a game changer. i heard there are 30 factories than can pump it out in england alone. seems to be a few issues right now, but they will sort it out i'm sure. the pfizer vaccine and the other 2 jab vaccines with very low refrigeration requirements were always going to be really awkward. as for the variants, i really haven't seen any solid evidence no vaccines work on them.

i can't understand the doom and gloom at all. things are going to be pretty rosy in just a few months imo.

niallo27

froog wrote: »

astrazeneca is a game changer. i heard there are 30 factories than can pump it out in england alone. seems to be a few issues right now, but they will sort it out i'm sure. the pfizer vaccine and the other 2 jab vaccines with very low refrigeration requirements were always going to be really awkward. as for the variants, i really haven't seen any solid evidence no vaccines work on them.

i can't understand the doom and gloom at all. things are going to be pretty rosy in just a few months imo.

Problem is qualifying these lines in these factories to produce the vaccines, months of testing and protocols before they can produce anything to go to general market.

political analyst

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55771223

Israel, the United Arab Emirates, the UK, and the US are all well ahead of EU nations in terms of doses given per capita so far.

Why is the EU's vaccination rate slower than that of those countries? Why won't AstraZeneca give the exact reason for lower level of production?

ginoginelli

Eod100 wrote: »

And even now they're only considering mandatory quarantine for 5 days for anyone without a not detected PCR test. I can't understand why they're so reluctant to do it tbh. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352984889818275840?s=19

They are a shambles. Brazilian and South Africans are still being let into the country with no pcr tests and there is not even a legal requirement to test after 5 days. Just a pinkie promise that they will isolate of which a minuscule percent is followed up on.

A year on now and they cant even organize a pre and post test and some check up measures. These should be the basics.

Its compeletely unacceptale and grossly negligent.