Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

jackboy

stephenjmcd wrote: »

So essentially when you say strong hints you've nothing to back that up and its purely your opinion, thats fine, doesn't make it fact though.

You are correct, it is just an opinion. I have found that things have become more and more predictable during the last year. I am honestly hearing lots of hints from the politicians, unless I am miss reading them. Varadkers comments in the last week are telling I think.

Gruffalux

I think super-fast super-accurate tests are a huge key. They should throw billions at developing them. It would mean safe flying, safe congregating, quick test trace isolate. Lick yer testing stick then go visit granny.

RacoonQueen

Turtwig wrote: »

Funny thing is it's the rest of world that's fcking them over. If COVID was in control elsewhere New Zealand wouldn't need the level of controls it does.

Yeah, majority of the world made a real balls up in relation to borders and controlling internal borders. New Zealand, Australia and some of Asia showed everyone else how it could be done but it's like everywhere else just covered their eyes and ears and pretended it wasn't realistic.

Qwertyminger

Are we really imprisoned like this until June. Work to home, home to work. I'm going insane. I miss my friends and family like everyone else who is adhering to the restrictions.

A friend left a voice message on a WhatsApp group I'm in yesterday and they were clearly at a party. We're not all adhering to them.

Where the flip are 2.5k cases a day coming from. I haven't been outside my house except to go in and do my essential job (no colleagues, no public). Shopping ordered in and exercise just around the block. I literally couldn't get covid doing that stuff if I really wanted it.

Is everyone having a mad laugh? I'm thinking of just stopping this now like because there's no end at all. I didn't go out with friends or family over Christmas, I just saw my two parents for dinner on Christmas day. That visit is the only social contact I've had in the last three months.

All I want is to go into the woods and stay in a tent when the weather gets nice in two months.

Happydays2020

Sunday tends to be super negative in here. Hopefully the numbers this evening gives us some cheer.

firemansam4

The reason level 3 restrictions failed was simply to do with Christmas, so many individuals and even whole businesses ignoring restrictions, people mixing everywhere. Quite honestly it was always going to be a disaster over Christmas.

I think as the summer arrives we hopefully should be in a better position to relax restrictions a bit.

Unfortunately we are going to be back to square one again next Christmas again. Vaccinations may help a bit, but with new variants arriving this pandemic is going to rumble on well into next year and longer unfortunately.

prunudo

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Sunday tends to be super negative in here. Hopefully the numbers this evening gives us some cheer.

Think the last week has been tough on many people. We have to take positives where we can, vaccine is being rolled out, cases are dropping and days are getting brighter.
We can also only deal with the facts that we have in front of us, hanging on what politicians say or maybe implying what will happen in
4 months time doesnt help improve the mood.

pm1977x

Qwertyminger wrote: »

A friend left a voice message on a WhatsApp group I'm in yesterday and they were clearly at a party. We're not all adhering to them.

Where the flip are 2.5k cases a day coming from...

Well, I could hazard a guess that a big part of the problem is people like your friend who just don't give a s**t and are a major factor in us all suffering this crap.

Jim_Hodge

jackboy wrote: »

Yeah there are strong hints from government now that it may be level 5 until at least June.

I think you're going on headlines or haven't read, listened to or watched the entire comments. There are no such 'strong hints' as you put it.

It's your opinion or take on it but it's far from fact.

jackboy

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I think you're going on headlines or haven't read, listened to or watched the entire comments. There are no such 'strong hints' as you put it.

It's your opinion or take on it but it's far from fact.

Yes it’s just my opinion. It’s what I’m seeing though from many politicians. These slips in the past have frequently been proved to be the truth.

Qwertyminger

pm1977x wrote: »

Well, I could hazard a guess that a big part of the problem is people like your friend who just don't give a s**t and are a major factor in us all suffering this crap.

It was a very brief message but it sounded like there were 30 other people in the room with them. I was livid.

Stateofyou

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup new community transmission case and they've said they won't be vaccinating until 2nd half of the year which is causing uproar

I wonder which strain it is.

Rebelbrowser

Qwertyminger wrote: »

It was a very brief message but it sounded like there were 30 other people in the room with them. I was livid.

Will you challenge the dickhead? People like this are despicable. That they have 30 like minded dickhead friends is the terrifying bit.

niallo27

Turtwig wrote: »

Just a general comment on this. I've found it really strange how often some posters have assumed others aren't on PUP or wage subsidies due to the content of their post.

And it's generally true, the people still in full-time employment have no problem in shutting down the economy at the expense of other peoples jobs. The idea of we are all in this together is simply not true.

funnydoggy

niallo27 wrote: »

And it's generally true, the people still in full-time employment have no problem in shutting down the economy at the expense of other peoples jobs. The idea of we are all in this together is simply not true.

Totally agreed. That notion died a death with Golfgate.

niallo27

Qwertyminger wrote: »

It was a very brief message but it sounded like there were 30 other people in the room with them. I was livid.

Not saying there wasn't a party but the how could you know there was 30 people there by a sound clip. A brief one top.

Plumbthedepths

Munsterman12 wrote: »

New Zealand doesnt even need a vaccine.

They will though.

OscarMIlde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I think in 5 weeks they'll be looking for people to give the vaccine too. Everyone I talk to say,, I DON'T WANT IT, NO WAY.

From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.

Loafing Oaf

OscarMIlde wrote: »

From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.

OscarMIlde PWNS BorneTobyWilde:p

Bananaleaf

niallo27 wrote: »

Not saying there wasn't a party but the how could you know there was 30 people there by a sound clip. A brief one top.

True story, I ate my dad (who is high risk) for having people over in the house when I phoned him the other night, only to learn he was on his own and it was the telly!

iamwhoiam

OscarMIlde wrote: »

From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.

Everyone I know are waiting and willing to queue for hours for it
When its my turn I will be in that queue and delighted to be in it

_Whimsical_

Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

namloc1980

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I think in 5 weeks they'll be looking for people to give the vaccine too. Everyone I talk to say,, I DON'T WANT IT, NO WAY.

If this is anything like your prediction that Trump would definitely get a second term and the election was stolen, then it's safe to say this is a load of nonsense.

Plumbthedepths

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.

DOCARCH

Bananaleaf wrote: »

True story, I ate my dad....

Really was not sure where that post was going when I started to read it!

Cluedo Monopoly

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.

Yes he has no idea how they got the virus.

BredonWimsey

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.

why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?

Stheno

BredonWimsey wrote: »

why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?

I think the point is that patients may not have been entirely truthful about social contacts

Plumbthedepths

BredonWimsey wrote: »

why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?

Did I say they weren’t sick? I questioned the claim Lambert made as to how they contracted the virus.

Turtwig

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

That is blind irresponsible speculation. It could well turn out to be true. Doesn't change the fact how irresponsible making such a statement is. Humans are unreliable narrators of their own lives. Let's find out objectively before scaring people.