Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

wadacrack

This is what is at stake with the new variant. We are taking unnecessary risk with Schools. Its crazy. Need logical decision making

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1346899021621813249

caveat emptor

We are officially worse than the north. May as well admit defeat against the virus and it's mutant bastard of a cousin and regroup together instead of playing politics. Think of it like the Germans in WW1 , once vaccines rolled out and it's banished from the land like the snakes we can agree to return to handbags. By handbags I mean being not nice to each other and doing nothing constructive.

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1346895286808027139?s=20

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So with all the restrictions, and assuming most people are impacted and contacts drop considerably, what is the main reason things are expected to stay bad until March?

If socialising got us to this point, should the stopping of that not cause a quick drop in numbers?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Highly infectious variant.

Even if so, nobody socialising so it shouldn't be easy to spread. Within 14 days or so of restrictions the vast majority of people are not in the line of fire.

landofthetree

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So with all the restrictions, and assuming most people are impacted and contacts drop considerably, what is the main reason things are expected to stay bad until March?

If socialising got us to this point, should the stopping of that not cause a quick drop in numbers?

We probably have 80,000+ active cases. Even with a low R0 it takes a while to get the numbers down.

Mike3549

If I remember clearly, the last time only the sites where it was hard to keep a social distancing closed, like FB Datacenter. If youre building a new estate, you have to sell a percentage of units to council as social/affordable + housing organisations can buy them separately. So obviously in this case "work as usual".

SuperRabbit

BobbyMalone wrote: »

I'm confused too. Are there many solely social housing developments being built? I thought most (at least in Dublin, maybe its different elsewhere) social housing was the 10 percent or whatever allocated from private developments?

one of FFs big campaign promises was to build a hedgeload of social housing and that's currently underway


disclaimer: i hate FF, it's the social housing that is getting the smiley face not them

podgeandrodge

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

A lot of cities bylaws have rules banning the outside consumption of alcohol.

That can be enforced on the people drinking takeaway pints in the street.

License laws too. Someone gets a drink from a pub acting as an off license and drinks it within 100 metres of the pub.

The pub is in breach of licensing laws and is closed and fined.

Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Even if so, nobody socialising so it shouldn't be easy to spread. Within 14 days or so of restrictions the vast majority of people are not in the line of fire.

If the R0 of the the variant +0.7 of the covid back in March. Then the lockdown measures back then wouldn't be enough to contain the variant strain. +0.7 is a worse case scenario.

Plumbthedepths

Follow_ur_lead wrote: »

Regarding a neg test coming back could the govt stop you comong back in to the country either way ?

I’m assuming you’re an Irish citizen in my response. The government cannot stop you returning you would be required to self isolate . However the airline you will be using may require proof of a vaccination or neg test before departure. Personally the cost of tests if you can’t get vaccinated are a small price to pay to escape to the sun for a few weeks.

podgeandrodge

Arghus wrote: »

It is a bit comical looking, but he's the first person I've seen in any briefing acknowledge and thank the interpreter, which is a nice thing to do at the end of the day.

Is she Chinese? Or Irish? His greeting would presumably depend on that, so I'm guessing/hoping he knows her.
Feels like a bit of very poor impromptu virtue signalling/pc carry on though.

Hazel Chu was born here. I can't imagine someone bowing to her but maybe I'm not up to date on etiquette.

Eivor

Jaysus. The country near brought to a standstill and some people still not happy. “But what about the drink and other things I personally don’t like!?” Not everything has to be banned at once. Can’t we just see how we get on with what they’ve announced tonight?

Plumbthedepths

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

It’s all about giving people less of a reason to leave home tbh.

caveat emptor

Deleted User wrote: »

Em. I'm the 'her'.

Sorry my mistake.:eek: Then don't let him get away! :pac:

SuperRabbit

wadacrack wrote: »

This is what is at stake with the new variant. We are taking unnecessary risk with Schools. Its crazy. Need logical decision making

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1346899021621813249

this means it's kind of like how it was at the beginning where if one country ****s up it ****s it up for the whole world, we need to get rid of this strain. But also better than last year because we didn't know back then, it was already outside of China by the time it was given a name and already everywhere by the time we realized it was outside of China

lawred2

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

I've seen relatively large crowds supping pints happily.. it definitely doesn't help

CIARAN_BOYLE

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Just find it hard to believe that many people are catching covid standing outside with a pint. Can't be a big driver. I think a lot of people trying to stop it don't like alcohol.

I think it's more the social gathering. 3 people stand together drinking. They finish and separate and hug each other. It would be better to ban hugging in public but much harder to enforce.

Belt wrote: »

We shouldnt need everyone vaccinated. Once those over 65, the vulnerable and frontline workers are vaccinated, we should be opening things back up. The low levels of ICUs and deaths would not justify keeping society lockdown.

There will be some level of restrictions until the majority is vaccinated but I doubt we will see level 5 again after April.

SuperRabbit

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Is she Chinese? Or Irish? His greeting would presumably depend on that, so I'm guessing/hoping he knows her.
Feels like a bit of very poor impromptu virtue signalling/pc carry on though.

Hazel Chu was born here. I can't imagine someone bowing to her but maybe I'm not up to date on etiquette.

Are you talking about a sign language interpreter? Surely if you speak ISL or Gaeilge fluently you are Irish.. I can't imagine going to the trouble of learning an indigenous language if you are over on a 9 month student visa with no intention of staying

I know 2 people who immigrated here who speak Irish fluently and they are both here for keeps so they're Irish... hmmmm I wonder if they identify as Irish.. how long does it take before it becomes part of your identity

pjohnson

Are they just keeping the LC going because of the absolute mess Norma Foley made of last years LC grading system?

Daisy000

Mike3549 wrote: »

Tell me which manufacturing co employs more than 400 in one shift, without Social Distancing, or masks?

Trillion $ company that’s a hint
A distance between myself and my coworker is less than a meter... oh yes we wear masks some better than others....

blowitupref

suicide_circus wrote: »

George Lee currently climaxing on RTE 1

I thought his head was about to explode

Stheno

blowitupref wrote: »

I thought his head was about to explode

He looks especially deranged there

Gruffalux

Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.

Crocodile Booze

blowitupref wrote: »

I thought his head was about to explode

He's saying

"STFU repeating yourself Norma. The schools are not bleedin safe!"

Funsterdelux

blowitupref wrote: »

I thought his head was about to explode

Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

Stheno

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

Its about three seconds prior

SuperRabbit

Gruffalux wrote: »

Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.

It's awful.

wadacrack

Gruffalux wrote: »

Given how high community transmission and extant virus is right now, given we are just beginning a more serious lockdown which will take time to have an effect, given variant B1.1.7 accounts for 25% and rising of our rampant infection, given B1.1.7 is 50 -70% more transmissable and harder to contain via lockdowns, given the hospitals are already seeing quite a few sick people and the staff are tired and fewer, I find myself unusually dispirited today. Perhaps sobered is the word. I hope we can turn things around without it all going too bad. I really do.

I think a hard lockdown will suppress it. London has never really had that. Ro dropping below 1 with schools open that happened in October will probably never be possible again however

What Username Guidelines

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Even if so, nobody socialising so it shouldn't be easy to spread. Within 14 days or so of restrictions the vast majority of people are not in the line of fire.

Was thinking similar myself. Total cases shouldn’t really matter that much. For arguments sake let’s say everyone goes into their houses for 2 weeks and nobody leaves. It still passes throughout the household so it could in theory take n infection cycles where “n” is the number of people that live in the house. But the avg household size probably hasn’t changed dramatically since March so in theory it should burn thru in same amount of time.

Having said that, obviously people leave their houses but those more likely to leave to work in essential services are also likely to be the same people that were out and about, with good reason to be, in March. Healthcare, supermarket workers, etc. Lots of the cases in the first two waves would be skewed towards those that moved around more though, so perhaps there’s some low level of immunity to help in our favour, from either previous infection or, eventually, some vaccine cover which hopefully will take effect even 2 weeks after dose 1.

I don’t know the answers to any of this, more thinking aloud here, but interesting all the same. Obviously the more transmissible strain changes things, but there are a few variables to it all.

Endintheclowns

In the last hour alone I've heard of 2 different people in their 50's who have died of Covid both based in Dublin. One a GP who was self isolating in his bedroom and didn't make it to the morning.

Please people all jokes aside look after yourselves as I think we are entering a very dangerous stage of the pandemic.

caveat emptor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Is this a caption competition or the moment he climaxes?

Both I think although you'd have to pan down to find out and nobody wants to to that. :eek: