Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

Purple Papillon

ginoginelli wrote: »

This is fantastic news.

It's tough not to think of all the lives and livelihoods that could have been saved over the past year if we had done this at the start.

But better late than never.

I think Sebastian is an English journalist so he will be referring to events due to happen in the UK.

I doubt Ireland will follow the UK down the route of quarantine but you never know. Talk about closing the stable door after the horse bolting. A lot of sickness, disease and death could have been avoided if they did this from the start.

Polar101

ginoginelli wrote: »

This is fantastic news.

It's tough not to think of all the lives and livelihoods that could have been saved over the past year if we had done this at the start.

But better late than never.

Yes, but that's the UK cabinet. Here it still seems to be "please show a test result, and if you don't, you might get fined.. or not".

Eod100

Polar101 wrote: »

Yes, but that's the UK cabinet. Here it still seems to be "please show a test result, and if you don't, you might get fined.. or not".

Gov here have said they'd look into bringing it in if UK gov do. Time to call their bluff now

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

Gov here have said they'd look into bringing it in if UK gov do. Time to call their bluff now

UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.

Nothing decided yet though. And better than current situation. Here it seems it might be for 5 days but say the gov will be under pressure next week to bring in something.

lukas8888

stephenjmcd wrote: »

UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.

Very doubtful it will be a blanket quarantine, also would mean they would have park the CTA or else it would be a waste of time.

ninebeanrows

There is no way they will introduce mandatory quarantine in Ireland or the UK for EU or UK/Ireland travelers. It may be introduced for other third nations but how do you get on or off the list? It is a messy thing to implement.

wadacrack

cameramonkey wrote: »

So many studies are saying there is a correlation between low vitamin D levels and more severe effects of covid on that cohort. These early studies also show a correlation between high vitamin D levels and much less severe symptoms and better outcomes. There are so many studies at this stage and so many doctors saying this that it is really time to act on it. There are no downsides to taking viaminD.

I think NPHET believe if they offer advice Vitamin D may help, some people will think they are immune if supplementing with it. Theirs a large enough cohort of people who would be that naïve to believe that.

Arduach

Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?

Happydays2020

Arduach wrote: »

Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?

Yes. 4 more weeks.

Eod100

Arduach wrote: »

Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?

Cabinet are meeting then so could be but nothing officially confirmed re announcement yet afaik. But as restrictions will be inevitably extended and Martin has said as much publicly probably no reason to drag it out later than Tuesday. Talk of them being reviewed every 4 weeks after that then

Gael23

I think it’s too late now for mandatory quarantine. It’s legally difficult too

cameramonkey

wadacrack wrote: »

I think NPHET believe if they offer advice Vitamin D may help, some people will think they are immune if supplementing with it. Theirs a large enough cohort of people who would be that naïve to believe that.

I understand that a few people may think that way but the message should be to continue social distancing and mask wearing and all the other necessary measures. Vitamin D seems to be really a huge factor in people's ability to survive this virus.

jackboy

Gael23 wrote: »

I think it’s too late now for mandatory quarantine. It’s legally difficult too

If they want to do it it’s legally easy. Plenty of countries are doing it. As we are in a national emergency there is very little we cannot do.

lukas8888

jackboy wrote: »

If they want to do it it’s legally easy. Plenty of countries are doing it. As we are in a national emergency there is very little we cannot do.

It may or may not be legally easy, but it would definitely be a logistical nightmare and probably take months to implement.

Eod100

Not sure how 4) works when variants are already in other countries. Isn't there no direct flights from South Africa or Brazil to here either? Seems like a half measure. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353447968817471492?s=19

jackboy

lukas8888 wrote: »

It may or may not be legally easy, but it would definitely be a logistical nightmare and probably take months to implement.

I don’t know. If we strictly do it the numbers coming in would quickly crash making it easier.

BorneTobyWilde

They must be countless dead people in their homes not discovered around the country.

Turtwig

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how 4) works when variants are already in other countries. Isn't there no direct flights from South Africa or Brazil to here either? Seems like a half measure. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353447968817471492?s=19

It'd be a start.

Eod100

Gael23 wrote: »

I think it’s too late now for mandatory quarantine. It’s legally difficult too

It's never too late with new variants and with trying to control ongoing community transmission. At very least we should try to mitigate against importing new cases. Vaccination will take bones of this year at least. Many things which were considered very difficult have already been done, time for a political will to actually sort it.

ginoginelli

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how 4) works when variants are already in other countries. Isn't there no direct flights from South Africa or Brazil to here either? Seems like a half measure. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353447968817471492?s=19

That's infuriating if true. Completely cosmetic approach hoping to deflect the main issue. Very much like their bull**** online form they brought in in the summer. They are so obvious at this stage. Clowns.

Eod100

Turtwig wrote: »

It'd be a start.

It would but I just don't know who 4 would apply to. If we're back to the square 1 thinking of saying Ire doesn't have any direct flights from Wuhan say it would show how little they've learned especially re variants and people could have travelled from other countries to get to Ire.

lukas8888

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how 4) works when variants are already in other countries. Isn't there no direct flights from South Africa or Brazil to here either? Seems like a half measure. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353447968817471492?s=19

Excellent point, the variants are probably in many European countries as of now.

Happydays2020

cameramonkey wrote: »

I understand that a few people may think that way but the message should be to continue social distancing and mask wearing and all the other necessary measures. Vitamin D seems to be really a huge factor in people's ability to survive this virus.

NPHET did not want to mandate masks as they thought people would mix more.

NPHET did not want testing on arrival in Dublin airport as they thought it might encourage travel.

NPHET do not want to recommend Vitamin D as it may give a false sense of security.

Purple Papillon

Happydays2020 wrote: »

NPHET do not want to recommend Vitamin D as it may give a false sense of security.

They are right too. There will be eejits stockpiling vitamin D for themselves and knocking it back like mineral water thinking that they found the covid cure and life can go on as normal and there's no need for lockdowns because vitamin D is the magic medicine.

manofwisdom

County cases per day average over the last two weeks. In brackets is what it was last Sunday.

Dublin 902 (1695)
Cork 310 (614)
Galway 164 (202)
Limerick 136 (265)
Mayo 123 (156)
Louth 116 (204)
Wexford 113 (193)
Kildare 111 (191)
Meath 108 (171)
Donegal 94 (158)
Waterford 82 (171)
Monaghan 73 (117)
Tipperary 73 (109)
Clare 56 (124)
Wicklow 53 (81)
Kerry 46 (110)
Carlow 45 (68)
Cavan 44 (78)
Laois 41 (58)
Offaly 39 (55)
Kilkenny 33 (81)
Roscommon 30 (43)
Westmeath 29 (45)
Sligo 20 (39)
Longford 11 (21)
Leitrim 6 (13)

iamwhoiam

Purple Papillon wrote: »

They are right too. There will be eejits stockpiling vitamin D for themselves and knocking it back like mineral water thinking that they found the covid cure and life can go on as normal and there's no need for lockdowns because vitamin D is the magic medicine.

The best thing is to pass the info on to sensible family and friends

cameramonkey

Purple Papillon wrote: »

They are right too. There will be eejits stockpiling vitamin D for themselves and knocking it back like mineral water thinking that they found the covid cure and life can go on as normal and there's no need for lockdowns because vitamin D is the magic medicine.

So just becasue there are some idiots don't make a recommendation that would improve public health.

iamwhoiam

Does anyone else think joggers and runners should be asked to wear masks when running . ? We walk in parks within 5k and constantly have to step aside from puffing and blowing joggers . They pass us out and we have to wait and not step straight into their blown out breath

hotmail.com

So quarantine is going to be introduced simply because of the British suggestion and public pressure.