Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

SusanC10

average_runner wrote: »

The three cases that happened in our kids school.



1) Principal sent home everyone on the same table for the required amount of time
2) Two kids tested positive, from different homes, source was the home.
Sent the whole class home for the required amount of time and did remote learning.

Was this before or after Christmas?

penny piper

Two classes have been shut after several covid 19 cases confirmed at Irish primary school in the west of the country.
HSE said a deep clean of the building has been carried out and senior infants and first class year groups moved to remote learning from Monday.....officials have said the the two classes will not be returning to school until next monday....

This comes after after multiple cases were confirmed at a school in Wexford...four separate infections were reported in a year group
at Colaiste Bride in Enniscorthy up to last Friday...letters have been sent home and the Principal has stated that the HSE is satified
that these infections can be attributed to "social interactions outside of school".

combat14

brilou23 wrote: »

Will Schools close tomorrow or do they have to catch up on days.

what a ridiculous comment why would schools, banks etc open on our national day

average_runner

SusanC10 wrote: »

Was this before or after Christmas?

Before Xmas.

average_runner

penny piper wrote: »

Two classes have been shut after several covid 19 cases confirmed at Irish primary school in the west of the country.
HSE said a deep clean of the building has been carried out and senior infants and first class year groups moved to remote learning from Monday.....officials have said the the two classes will not be returning to school until next monday....

This comes after after multiple cases were confirmed at a school in Wexford...four separate infections were reported in a year group
at Colaiste Bride in Enniscorthy up to last Friday...letters have been sent home and the Principal has stated that the HSE is satified
that these infections can be attributed to "social interactions outside of school".

You mean the big birthday party down there

BonsaiKitten

penny piper wrote: »

Two classes have been shut after several covid 19 cases confirmed at Irish primary school in the west of the country.
HSE said a deep clean of the building has been carried out and senior infants and first class year groups moved to remote learning from Monday.....officials have said the the two classes will not be returning to school until next monday....

This comes after after multiple cases were confirmed at a school in Wexford...four separate infections were reported in a year group
at Colaiste Bride in Enniscorthy up to last Friday...letters have been sent home and the Principal has stated that the HSE is satified
that these infections can be attributed to "social interactions outside of school".

I never understand what the point of doing these deep cleans is, other than good PR. Isn't Covid thought to only live on surfaces for 72 hours? By the time the class is back 72 hours will be long over. Of course there are the other classes but surely the SI/1st children won't have been in their rooms and if kids in those classes have Covid, a deep clean won't sort that.

Hope the return is going well for all. My school are not back yet so enjoying a few days free atm!

Hurrache

SusanC10 wrote: »

If a child in say 5th Class contracts the virus at say a family gathering and goes to school asymptomatic. Subsequently the child tests positive (as a result of close contact tracing of a family member) - who is going to be currently tested from the Class at school ? The entire Class plus Teacher ?
Class are sitting in a U-shape configuration of tables all joined together with everyone facing inwards.

Depends on the particular class really. In some situations the entire class have been tested, including the main teacher and those who may take students for additional learning.

Now no doubt some will come along and tell me I'm wrong, it doesn't happen that an entire class will get tested, like they did last week. But they're detached from the reality of what other people experience and base what they believe only in what they see.

Midnight Sundance

brilou23 wrote: »

Will Schools close tomorrow or do they have to catch up on days.

Who sucked the fun out of you??
Do you not remember being a kid? I'm sure you wanted to be in school on Paddy's day!! Tomorrow is a Bank Holiday. Sure send the kids in at weekends now too while you're at it

wirelessdude01

Hurrache wrote: »

Depends on the particular class really. In some situations the entire class have been tested, including the main teacher and those who may take students for additional learning.

Now no doubt some will come along and tell me I'm wrong, it doesn't happen that an entire class will get tested, like they did last week. But they're detached from the reality of what other people experience and base what they believe only in what they see.

Up to Christmas testing of whole class plus teacher(s) was very much in the minority. No rhyme nor reason to how it was decided was clear to us in schools.

Let's hope that it is a little more transparent now for us to be able to decipher and understand.

vid36

Interesting article. Positivity rates highest in primary schools and not far below community level. Will be interesting after the Easter break. Rates have doubled since December and we have not everyone back in school yet. Strong case for masks in primary in my opinion.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-positive-cases-detected-in-more-than-100-schools-last-week-1.4512094

Locotastic

vid36 wrote: »

Interesting article. Positivity rates highest in primary schools and not far below community level. Will be interesting after the Easter break. Rates have doubled since December and we have not everyone back in school yet. Strong case for masks in primary in my opinion.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-positive-cases-detected-in-more-than-100-schools-last-week-1.4512094

Still lower positivity rate than our overall positivity rate. Of course the rate is going to increase when there's more kids in schools and more being tested.

The positivity rate was 2.4% on average, an increase from 2% during the first month (8 February to 6 March) of the phased reopening of schools.

However, the positivity rate in each school type – 2.8% in primary schools, 1.4% in secondary schools, and 2.5% in special education schools – remained lower than the average community positivity rate of 3.8%.

josip

Locotastic wrote: »

Still lower positivity rate than our overall positivity rate. Of course the rate is going to increase when there's more kids in schools and more being tested.

The positivity rate was 2.4% on average, an increase from 2% during the first month (8 February to 6 March) of the phased reopening of schools.

However, the positivity rate in each school type – 2.8% in primary schools, 1.4% in secondary schools, and 2.5% in special education schools – remained lower than the average community positivity rate of 3.8%.

So 4-9 year olds are inherently more Covid-responsible than the average person in the country ?

combat14

Covid-19 : Positive cases detected in more than 100 schools last week

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-positive-cases-detected-in-more-than-100-schools-last-week-1.4512094%3fmode=amp

The number of schools where positive cases of Covid-19 were detected among pupils or staff has tripled over the space of a week, latest figures show.

vid36

Locotastic wrote: »

Still lower positivity rate than our overall positivity rate. Of course the rate is going to increase when there's more kids in schools and more being tested.

The positivity rate was 2.4% on average, an increase from 2% during the first month (8 February to 6 March) of the phased reopening of schools.

However, the positivity rate in each school type – 2.8% in primary schools, 1.4% in secondary schools, and 2.5% in special education schools – remained lower than the average community positivity rate of 3.8%.

I think it is inevitable that there will be a big surge in cases over Easter due to increased gatherings, socialising and restriction fatigue.That will in turn effect school.In addition the testing and tracing struggles once cases go north of 2000 a day.

DSN

combat14 wrote: »

Covid-19 : Positive cases detected in more than 100 schools last week

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-positive-cases-detected-in-more-than-100-schools-last-week-1.4512094%3fmode=amp

The number of schools where positive cases of Covid-19 were detected among pupils or staff has tripled over the space of a week, latest figures show.

Hardly a newsflash course pupils & staff no's will go up but most them probably would have got it anyway. But now you can blame schools. Cooped up since January the whole country will be out walking, cycling etc tomorrow enjoying the sunshine. No doubt some on here will say it's all because schools are open.

Wombatman

vid36 wrote: »

I think it is inevitable that there will be a big surge in cases over Easter due to increased gatherings, socialising and restriction fatigue.That will in turn effect school.In addition the testing and tracing struggles once cases go north of 2000 a day.

Chances of an LC exam in June looking pretty slim IMHO.

ShineOn7

There are, what, just 8 weeks of the School year left?

Are they really going to bother bringing back the remaining years for that?

There's some reliable school workers on this thread. What are you hearing?

JP100

Amazing that as soon as schools return all these children suddenly start contracting Covid in their communities again! Amazing stuff altogether!!

km79

Wombatman wrote: »

Chances of an LC exam in June looking pretty slim IMHO.

They will go ahead imo
Most centres will have at most 10 students
And for many exams only a handful

km79

ShineOn7 wrote: »

There are, what, just 8 weeks of the School year left?

Are they really going to bother bringing back the remaining years for that?

There's some reliable school workers on this thread. What are you hearing?

Nothing
Nobody knows
Planning for whole school return as it stands

iamwhoiam

JP100 wrote: »

Amazing that as soon as schools return all these children suddenly start contracting Covid in their communities again! Amazing stuff altogether!!

The highest case numbers were in the age group not yet back in school . Reported by Fergal Bowers on Six 1 news

JP100

Ah yes but meanwhile we have Nicola Sturgeon stating she cannot rule out the possibility that a rise in cases there over the past week as being linked to the return of schools. While over here Professor Philip Nolan and NPHET just want us to believe it's merely a "coincident in time"!.

All the while Nolan also regularly telling us that we now have a new more contagious variant so now must adapt accordingly except of course for the oul schools - more contagious variants have no new or added material effect on our impenetrable schools according to this particularly nutty professor! When it comes to schools a lot of what we are told about Covid is suddenly thrown out the window and new more contagious and dangerous variants most definitely need not apply!

deiseindublin

km79 wrote: »

They will go ahead imo
Most centres will have at most 10 students
And for many exams only a handful

Why do you think that? It looks to me that most (ambitious) students intend on sitting 5+ exams.

km79

deiseindublin wrote: »

Why do you think that? It looks to me that most (ambitious) students intend on sitting 5+ exams.

Max is 10 students in most centers
Maths Irish English likely to be highish numbers so maybe close to 10
Not every student do all the options. Not at all that do them will sit the paper
So that means a lot less than 10
I’d say average 5/6 for popular ones
Less than that for less popular ones

Centres can’t be consolidated like in previous years either

deiseindublin

Ah, ok, I misunderstood you, I thought you were saying lots would stick with the AG, and not sit the exam.

Yes, lots of small centres is good, if we can get as far as then.

Newbie20

ShineOn7 wrote: »

There are, what, just 8 weeks of the School year left?

Are they really going to bother bringing back the remaining years for that?

There's some reliable school workers on this thread. What are you hearing?

I don’t think people realise that teachers are told absolutely nothing. First we hear of anything is when it’s in the papers or on the news, same as everyone else. Now you would imagine if right was right that we would get a small bit of notice. But the government prefers to deliver any messages via a “leak”

Beasty

Newbie20 wrote: »

I don’t think people realise that teachers are told absolutely nothing. First we hear of anything is when it’s in the papers or on the news, same as everyone else. Now you would imagine if right was right that we would get a small bit of notice. But the government prefers to deliver any messages via a “leak”

Do you think the entire teaching profession is "leak-proof"? As soon as teachers are informed it will be spread - then we may have parents complaining the people most affected by all of this, the students, are being kept in the dark.

I am not suggesting any "leaks" should be acceptable, but it makes absolute sense that everyone is informed at the same time.

Locotastic

josip wrote: »

So 4-9 year olds are inherently more Covid-responsible than the average person in the country ?

Make of it what you will, that's what's being reported.

wirelessdude01

Locotastic wrote: »

Make of it what you will, that's what's being reported.

The fact that it is being reported is laughable.

History Queen

Beasty wrote: »

Do you think the entire teaching profession is "leak-proof"? As soon as teachers are informed it will be spread - then we may have parents complaining the people most affected by all of this, the students, are being kept in the dark.

I am not suggesting any "leaks" should be acceptable, but it makes absolute sense that everyone is informed at the same time.

Teachers are often informed through Carl O'Brien in the Irish Times. That's an unacceptable way for anyone to be informed. The correct procedure would be notification sent to schools and sent via schools to parents and children as happens with other communication from the Department.