Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

penny piper

average_runner wrote: »

Principle had no right to ask kids from meeting outside in the fresh air. Sure they can play at playgrounds.


We haven't been asked and doubt we would do it. Kids mental health more important.



Now if one sibling is close contact, all siblings should stay in.

Aren't they only repeating what Ronan Glynn said in his letter to parents/guardians re: 26/02/2021? because of more cases maybe they have been asked to remind parents again.....

SusanC10

Deeec wrote: »

When I pick up my kids from school Im seeing childminders pick up kids from maybe 3 different houses ( and maybe have 2 more kids in their car aswell), playdate pick ups, car pooling etc. Also seeing mammys get into other mammys cars to have a good chat while they are waiting. None of this was happening when schools were opened from Sept-Dec. People have forgotten that they need to be minimising contact.

Unfortunately, this was all happening outside the Primary School from Aug-Christmas last year.

SusanC10

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average_runner

penny piper wrote: »

Aren't they only repeating what Ronan Glynn said in his letter to parents/guardians re: 26/02/2021? because of more cases maybe they have been asked to remind parents again.....

He said nothing about kids playing outside on the street, he said play dates or organised stuff where adults would be.


Kids playing on the street is not organised. He also said they are allowed to go to playgrounds

JDD

SusanC10 wrote: »

I am not sure what multiple kids from multiple households playing outside together in the green of an estate has to do with childcare ?

There's a little enclosed play area that a lot of the younger primary school kids play in after school in our estate. I don't really see an issue with it - if kids are outside, even without social distancing and washing hands, they're unlikely to pass it on to each other. It's indoor playdates and sleepovers that increase the risk.

I don't really blame the parents for letting the kids from different classes/schools play together outside. Our kids' afterschool facility is open, and kids from all different classes mix together inside and outside from 2-6pm. Yes, they wash their hands two or three times, and they sit them in small groups for dinner/activities but all the same, they are far more likely to pass it on to each other then a kid who plays outside on a green for a couple of hours. A neighbour of mine said that she would not be able to work if her children weren't outside playing, and if that wasn't an option she'd have to send them to the afterschool, which would only increase the risk of spread.

JDD

average_runner wrote: »

He said nothing about kids playing outside on the street, he said play dates or organised stuff where adults would be.


Kids playing on the street is not organised. He also said they are allowed to go to playgrounds

I collected my two from school yesterday, and organised to pick up two of their classmates too. We walked to the local playground and stayed for 45 mins before we walked home and dropped the friends on the way.

It was an organised playdate, so against the rules, but it was outside and I decided it wasn't more risk than them playing in the playground at lunchtime. I think everyone now is choosing what is very important to them and bending the rules to fit where they believe the risk is not massively higher.

I'm not condoning blatant trashing of the rules here. Just saying that nearly everyone is tweaking the rules somewhat in order to be able to keep going.

BonsaiKitten

average_runner wrote: »

Sometimes they tell ye too much in the wrong context !!!


Once we spent a weekend camping, youngest back in school, what is your news of the weekend. I played my nintendo on Sunday evening :mad:

Haha oh sure I know! "Teacher, I have nothing to write in my Monday news". And then you drag it out of them.

And the same when they go home and insist they did nothing all day, played with no one and ate no lunch I'm sure.

average_runner

JDD wrote: »

I collected my two from school yesterday, and organised to pick up two of their classmates too. We walked to the local playground and stayed for 45 mins before we walked home and dropped the friends on the way.

It was an organised playdate, so against the rules, but it was outside and I decided it wasn't more risk than them playing in the playground at lunchtime. I think everyone now is choosing what is very important to them and bending the rules to fit where they believe the risk is not massively higher.

I'm not condoning blatant trashing of the rules here. Just saying that nearly everyone is tweaking the rules somewhat in order to be able to keep going.

But you used your head there and didn't do anything crazy, kept it all very sensible.

noplacehere

Childminders are allowed to operate. Same as creches and afterschools. Does it burst the bubbles? Yes but its allowed for the same reason school is open-people need childcare to work.

Having said that the hopping into cars together? Yeah. NO. Thats not on

wirelessdude01

josip wrote: »

It is overstepping the mark if they tell the kids they are not allowed to meet each other outside school under any circumstances.

We've all been asked in our school to remind children about what is an isn't allowed. Some schools have been contacted by the HSE and asked to tell parents that playdates, sleepovers and similar should be be occurring.

hatchman

My children's school is closing half day this Friday. Is it necessary to take a half day when the children are only back less than two weeks ?

JP100

hatchman wrote: »

My children's school is closing half day this Friday. Is it necessary to take a half day when the children are only back less than two weeks ?

A couple of hours earlier in the day so, cry me a river!

penny piper

average_runner wrote: »

He said nothing about kids playing outside on the street, he said play dates or organised stuff where adults would be.


Kids playing on the street is not organised. He also said they are allowed to go to playgrounds

Sorry are you saying that ronan glynn said children could go to playgrounds in that letter to parents I quoted? I apologise if I'm confused there....

Random sample

hatchman wrote: »

My children's school is closing half day this Friday. Is it necessary to take a half day when the children are only back less than two weeks ?

It was probably already on the school calendar.

jrosen

hatchman wrote: »

My children's school is closing half day this Friday. Is it necessary to take a half day when the children are only back less than two weeks ?

Ours too. Not necessary at all but seems pretty common.

Ted_YNWA

Baggly wrote: »

penny piper wrote: »

How do you expect people to improve things if you don't tell them....you are the parent responsible for your child ....let the school know...it's your failure as a parent imo....and it's not happening in all schools...

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penny piper wrote: »

Sorry are you saying that ronan glynn said children could go to playgrounds in that letter to parents I quoted? I apologise if I'm confused there....

Week off

Deeec

JDD wrote: »

I collected my two from school yesterday, and organised to pick up two of their classmates too. We walked to the local playground and stayed for 45 mins before we walked home and dropped the friends on the way.

It was an organised playdate, so against the rules, but it was outside and I decided it wasn't more risk than them playing in the playground at lunchtime. I think everyone now is choosing what is very important to them and bending the rules to fit where they believe the risk is not massively higher.

I'm not condoning blatant trashing of the rules here. Just saying that nearly everyone is tweaking the rules somewhat in order to be able to keep going.

I think that works good - walk and short periods of play outside. Its inside in homes I see as a problem.

Deeec

noplacehere wrote: »

Childminders are allowed to operate. Same as creches and afterschools. Does it burst the bubbles? Yes but its allowed for the same reason school is open-people need childcare to work.

Having said that the hopping into cars together? Yeah. NO. Thats not on

Yeah childminders are allowed. It is just looking after multiple families I think could lead to problems. Our local afterschool service isnt open at the moment so 2 childminders are providing school pick ups and after school care. Multiple families are using them across all classes. It just seems a little unsafe - makes a complete joke of what schools (pods etc) are trying their best to enforce.

JDD

Deeec wrote: »

Yeah childminders are allowed. It is just looking after multiple families I think could lead to problems. Our local afterschool service isnt open at the moment so 2 childminders are providing school pick ups and after school care. Multiple families are using them across all classes. It just seems a little unsafe - makes a complete joke of what schools (pods etc) are trying their best to enforce.

I remember mentioning this a while back. I couldn't honestly see the point of pods or bubbles at all if after-school services were open. What is the point of my child sitting in a pod and only being able to play in a certain portion of the yard at lunchtime, when she heads off to the afterschool (in the same building) with children not only outside her pod, but from other classes too for another four hours? And it wouldn't just be my child affected - it affects every child in the school whether they attend after school care or not.

Because of that I suppose I was a bit less strident about who she played with (outside) at the weekend. Did it really add any extra risk for her to play with children from other classes (or even, other schools) on the green at the weekend, when she was mixing with children outside of her class bubble inside for five days a week?

It made a mockery of the pod and bubble system for me to be honest. I couldn't at all see the logic of why she couldn't play with her best friend in another class at lunchtime, when they were heading to the same afterschool as soon as the bell rang.

hatchman

JP100 wrote:

A couple of hours earlier in the day so, cry me a river!

My child care isn't open so it's extra hours I have to take off work on top of all I have taken to date this year. Just a thought that every available hour at school would be beneficial to make up for lost time. Children out at 11.30 Friday.

Ted_YNWA

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Baggly wrote: »

penny piper wrote: »

How do you expect people to improve things if you don't tell them....you are the parent responsible for your child ....let the school know...it's your failure as a parent imo....and it's not happening in all schools...

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penny piper wrote: »

Sorry are you saying that ronan glynn said children could go to playgrounds in that letter to parents I quoted? I apologise if I'm confused there....

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Mea culpa.

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Rosita

noplacehere wrote: »

Childminders are allowed to operate. Same as creches and afterschools. Does it burst the bubbles? Yes but its allowed for the same reason school is open-people need childcare to work.

You mean it's not because the children "need to be educated" and " to socialise with their peers"?! I'm shocked.

wadacrack

Evidence is clear now. Schools are driving up cases.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1374677373384335369

penny piper

683 new cases this evening and 18 further deaths ..rip...

Cases still high..................leaving cert students and teachers will now wear masks for oral LC

TTLF

I'm having an issue at the moment and it's causing a lot of stress via the LC.

So I'm sitting German, probably my weakest HL subject, (not sure what I got in the mock there yet,) and We have our orals next week, which due to Covid we're severely under-prepared for.

I don't really understand why I can't get my oral exam predicted and still sit the written paper, surely that should've been an option since many people were at a disadvantage with oral work over the 5+ months missed.

For me, my teachers were taking an approach where we left it on the backburner since we were in doubt, and when we did approach it in Lockdown back in January, we went into an excessive amount of vocabulary we didn't need in order to cover every possible question. (this was just the General Questions)

Now here I am writing notes for my project I did in TY, General areas on School, house, family etc, and learning the roleplays for my oral in a weeks time with no prior mock oral or much of any oral experience in German

Maybe it's just my school, but this week is going to be so so rough.

combat14

penny piper wrote: »

618 new cases this evening and 18 further deaths ..rip...

Cases still high..................leaving cert students and teachers will now wear masks for oral LC

683

combat14

hatchman wrote: »

My child care isn't open so it's extra hours I have to take off work on top of all I have taken to date this year. Just a thought that every available hour at school would be beneficial to make up for lost time. Children out at 11.30 Friday.

thats what it is all about .. Child care

hesaidshesaid

TTLF wrote: »

I'm having an issue at the moment and it's causing a lot of stress via the LC.

So I'm sitting German, probably my weakest HL subject, (not sure what I got in the mock there yet,) and We have our orals next week, which due to Covid we're severely under-prepared for.

I don't really understand why I can't get my oral exam predicted and still sit the written paper, surely that should've been an option since many people were at a disadvantage with oral work over the 5+ months missed.

For me, my teachers were taking an approach where we left it on the backburner since we were in doubt, and when we did approach it in Lockdown back in January, we went into an excessive amount of vocabulary we didn't need in order to cover every possible question. (this was just the General Questions)

Now here I am writing notes for my project I did in TY, General areas on School, house, family etc, and learning the roleplays for my oral in a weeks time with no prior mock oral or much of any oral experience in German

Maybe it's just my school, but this week is going to be so so rough.

Not to minimise your stress levels here TTLF, but to be honest most students do their best, most-focused work the week before the exam. Maybe even the night before. I appreciate that this isn’t the ideal way to work, that it’s not an ideal situation you’re in but I’d suggest just giving a certain amount of time per day to the prep. Practise your answers aloud, have some good phrases learned off. (I taught LC French so have some experience here.) It’s one part of one exam, not even one of your strongest subjects you say, so possibly you’re not planning to count it anyway? Either way, you only have whatever amount of days to go so my advice would be to just put your head down til then and then forget about it. Do your best and just move on. Everything you’ve written here over the past few months indicates that you have a high level of cop on. Don’t let this phase you. Best of luck!

beggars_bush

You'd have to wonder what some parents are doing with children in the evenings or allowing them to do.

combat14

absolute dismal reading tonight .. looks like the govt are going to relax restrictions a little bit but only because rules are being broken left right and centre anyway

Tánaiste tells TDs of ‘deteriorating’ Covid-19 situation and fears relaxing lockdown could make it worse

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/tanaiste-tells-tds-of-deterioratingcovid-19-situation-and-fears-relaxing-lockdown-could-make-it-worse-40236679.html