Twitter's alleged bias towards left-wing trolls.

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

The issue conservatives have with Twitter is that its becoming ever more reluctant to host their hate speech and their calls to violence. Changing landscape has nothing to do with it.

And any feminist who thinks that females are biological. And lots of other speech they don't particularly like.

Speech they do like, however violent is often acceptable.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Libertarians and communists are two peas in a pod for me. Great ideas in theory but terrible in practice

Moronic in theory and practice. Of course you never feel intellectually special about yourself if you are a middle of the road conservative of leftist who believes in mixed market economy.

The Nal

timmyntc wrote: »

Should be regulated by the legislator - i.e. government.
It shouldn't be up to social media management to determine what is and isn't OK on these platforms, legislators should set clear rules as to whats ok and what is not.

The situation now is that social media management can decide arbitrarily based on anything.

Which government? There are nearly 200 of them.

Varik

Social media platform get immunity from liability from what is posted by users on their platforms to a degree and as along as they don't play editor they don't get treated as a publisher who would be liable for everything.

Trump was against this immunity, Biden is against it too, and Zuckerberg was before Congress in the US say they should be treated somewhat like a telecom as he knows that if they lose their immunity they'll get sued into the ground.

timmyntc

The Nal wrote: »

Which government? There are nearly 200 of them.

The govt of whichever country a social media platform is based in?

James Brown

political analyst wrote: »

Why is it that Twitter shuts down the accounts of people who merely criticise left-wing social movements (e.g. Lindsay Shepherd, who criticised the transgender rights movement in Canada and was then banned from Twitter but has since got the ban overturned), while left-wing trolls who attack social conservatives are apparently let off the hook?

Aren't there certain people on the left-wing on Twitter who are just as deserving of a ban as the soon-to-be-former US president Trump?

Are you pulling this out of the air?
By 'apparently' do you mean you've no evidence?

Varik

Varik wrote: »

Social media platform get immunity from liability from what is posted by users on their platforms to a degree and as along as they don't play editor they don't get treated as a publisher who would be liable for everything.

Trump was against this immunity, Biden is against it too, and Zuckerberg was before Congress in the US say they should be treated somewhat like a telecom as he knows that if they lose their immunity they'll get sued into the ground.

Given that they get immunity from what is being published, they should probably not remove, ban or disallow content until the government or whatever jurisdiction they are passes a law requiring them to do so. Otherwise they are effectively editorialising and therefore making themselves potentially liable for any content they do publish.

The Nal

timmyntc wrote: »

The govt of whichever country a social media platform is based in?

So twitter (and all their users around the world) have to tolerate users in Iran (or similar places where its used) posting about how gay people should be executed?!

That's legal in Iran. Its the law actually.

James Brown

Kraftwerk wrote: »

Because most people on the left (not the real left, the social media americanised left) exist to be offended and to silence other people. When anyone falls foul of the angry mob twitter is inundated with reports.

And twitter policy is also influenced by these mobs and the scale of reporting and treats all this "offending" as harassment.

So attack the right and their views and it's just an argument because they're not offended, they're angry. And a few reports are more likely to be ignored or not actioned. Attack the left and their views and its targeted harassment because people are taking personal offence to everything and the cancel army is mobilised to report all this targeted harassment.

Trump was one of their biggest revenue producers. Twitter shares even fell today and not because of stifling free speech.
Inciting violence is a problem.
Man incites violence. Causes deaths. Gets banned...something something Black Lives Matter...

timmyntc

The Nal wrote: »

So twitter (and all their users around the world) have to tolerate users in Iran (or similar places where its used) posting about how gay people should be executed?!

That's legal in Iran. Its the law actually.

Twitter isn't based in Iran though?

Bowie

Bowie wrote: »

Trump was one of their biggest revenue producers. Twitter shares even fell today and not because of stifling free speech.
Inciting violence is a problem.
Man incites violence. Causes deaths. Gets banned...something something Black Lives Matter...

But like..he didn't incite violence..he expressly told them to be peaceful..

But yeah, why was he their biggest revenue producers?.. because everyone and anyone could call him whatever name under the sun for the last four years..Being the focus of two minutes hate daily..

The Nal

timmyntc wrote: »

Twitter isn't based in Iran though?

Theres the problem. Social media is based everywhere. A few countries like Germany and Australia have brought in laws that are only applicable in their own countries. Mainly around content removal. Germany fined Facebook last year for example based on German laws.

America didn't. We didn't. Uganda didn't.

The Nal

The Nal wrote: »

Theres the problem. Social media is based everywhere. A few countries like Germany and Australia have brought in laws that are only applicable in their own countries. Mainly around content removal. Germany fined Facebook last year for example based on German laws.

America didn't. We didn't. Uganda didn't.

German law apparently applies across all of twitter. Or they use it as a reference.

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

But like..he didn't incite violence..he expressly told them to be peaceful..

..

You don’t concede when there’s theft involved, Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about.”

nobody until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, “I want to thank you very much,” and they go off to some other life, but I said, “Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

“You’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength. You have to be strong,”

Donald Trump: 06/01/2021

Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!

gombeen crowd 06/01/2021

“Let’s have trial by combat,”

Rudy Giuliani 06/01/2021

James Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

But like..he didn't incite violence..he expressly told them to be peaceful..

But yeah, why was he their biggest revenue producers?.. because everyone and anyone could call him whatever name under the sun for the last four years..Being the focus of two minutes hate daily..

Debatable. He did after the fact. He has blood on his tiny hands.
Point is Twitter banned him at a loss to revenue not to placate people for revenue purposes.

Twitter banned him because they're a shower of fascists..

The week of the election they deleted 8000 accounts.. last week they purged 1/10th of their accounts..

It's obvious political censorship..

This is a sinister development..

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Twitter banned him because they're a shower of fascists..

The week of the election they deleted 8000 accounts.. last week they purged 1/10th of their accounts..

It's obvious political censorship..

This is a sinister development..

Twitter are either;

Leftwingliberalsocialistcommunistscum.

or

Fascist.


Cannot be both, so pick one.

Smacruairi

Was stalin not left wing and also fascist?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Twitter banned him because they're a shower of fascists..

The week of the election they deleted 8000 accounts.. last week they purged 1/10th of their accounts..

It's obvious political censorship..

This is a sinister development..

The lad is gone out of power and isnt really relevent anymore

Like he is responsible for bringing twitter into the mainstream,and likely was a massive generator of adds/revenue for em over last few years


Its not political censorship,its purely a cynical business decision as it obvious he's costing money and is no longer beneficial to em....and they arent going to have yesterdays man damaging the brand

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Twitter are either;

Leftwingliberalsocialistcommunistscum.

or

Fascist.


Cannot be both, so pick one.

Can't it be both?

completedit

Deleted User wrote: »

Twitter are either;

Leftwingliberalsocialistcommunistscum.

or

Fascist.


Cannot be both, so pick one.

They're pretty much the same thing. How do you tell a Fascist from a Communist? One is German and the other is Russian.

Sonics2k

Smacruairi wrote: »

Was stalin not left wing and also fascist?

Stalin was absolutely not left wing. He opposed education, wiped out towns and murdered millions.

Please stop pushing this absolute bull**** rhetoric that Stalin was left wing. It's like those absolute morons who go around claiming the Nazi's were socialists.

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

Twitter banned him because they're a shower of fascists..

The week of the election they deleted 8000 accounts.. last week they purged 1/10th of their accounts..

It's obvious political censorship..

This is a sinister development..

True.

Sonics2k

Deleted User wrote: »

Twitter banned him because they're a shower of fascists..

The week of the election they deleted 8000 accounts.. last week they purged 1/10th of their accounts..

It's obvious political censorship..

This is a sinister development..

Twitter went off and purged thousands of bot accounts, dummy accounts and plain old Nazi accounts.

**** Nazi's and **** their platform.

Twitter didn't go off and just ban random people with conservative political or economical views. They banned the full blown bigots and racists.

Silentcorner

Sonics2k wrote: »

Stalin was absolutely not left wing. He opposed education, wiped out towns and murdered millions.

Please stop pushing this absolute bull**** rhetoric that Stalin was left wing. It's like those absolute morons who go around claiming the Nazi's were socialists.

Stalin was GS of the Communist Party...sounds left wing!!!

To anyone living under communism, fascism, socialism, there is very little difference after a few years when the authority has to shut down anyone who articulates political opinions different to the Party line, it is one party government.

Everyone knows the Nazis were the Nationalist Socialist Party but equally they were not strictly socialists, the leadership was influenced by Mussolini a raging fascist.

One Party Government and absolute control of media usually ends up with the death and starvation of millions of people regardless.

Sonics2k

Silentcorner wrote: »

Stalin was GS of the Communist Party...sounds left wing!!!

To anyone living under communism, fascism, socialism, there is very little difference after a few years when the authority has to shut down anyone who articulates political opinions different to the Party line, it is one party government.

Everyone knows the Nazis were the Nationalist Socialist Party but equally they were not strictly socialists, the leadership was influenced by Mussolini a raging fascist.

One Party Government and absolute control of media usually ends up with the death and starvation of millions of people regardless.

Yeah, it's almost like a single leader for a country is a terrible idea. Not at all if that's what Trumps supporters have been calling for.

And no, National Socialism is nothing like socialism. Communism =/= left wing, just like Capitalism =/= right wing.

Melanchthon

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

That's just victim claiming nonsense. It's Twitter's platform, they can do what they want with it.

Do conservatives think churches should have to marry gay people? If not then this is just blatant privilege-seeking.

What's your view on the Gay cake controversies and the ability of other businesses to deny service on various grounds.

The philosophy of private enterprise being free to do as it wills in terms of which customers can use it has its appeal but I doubt you like the idea of it actually being applied.

I mean if the government had not brought in the act that made travellers an ethnicity (only in 2017 so not ancient history) according to your logic it would be ok for shops and 90's of pubs to refuse traveller customers, after all it's their business?

If Facebook, Twitter and Alphabet decided not to allow any adverts for UK labour because Corbyn MK2 came along and they were worried that a more left wing UK government would act against private corporations is that fine? After all it's their business.

The complete swing of attitudes to this by a certain type of left/liberal is crazy.

Silentcorner

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yeah, it's almost like a single leader for a country is a terrible idea. Not at all if that's what Trumps supporters have been calling for.

And no, National Socialism is nothing like socialism. Communism =/= left wing, just like Capitalism =/= right wing.

You do realise that a single leader of a political party is different to a one party government right....you do realize that our current leader Michael Martin isn't a fascist right?

Trump won a party nomination, then a Presidential Election, just like all the Presidents before him.

Your last sentence is just gibberish disguised as a word salad!

sydthebeat

Politics is a circle...

Go far enough right or left and you land on fascism....

That's the gaping hole in the horseshoe theory

Dyr

Guess its time for Facebuke to be yanked off the Apple and Google stores...right guys?


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