Your line is weak but your point is strong: Liveline from 10th January

shearforce

shearforce wrote: »

I actually think it's very important that the whole country listens to this - I avoided it as much as I could but really this needs to be heard.

From my own point of view with young girls at home, I hope it's drove it home with me not to have shame or whatever if they arrive home pregnant and to fully support them.

I do realise I shouldn't have to listen to this show to make me realise this but it helps no doubt.

I'm probably sounding a bit out of touch but so be it. It's made me think anyway and no doubt helps the women to talk about it.

tough radio to listen to though.

My dad asked me on Wednesday "why do you listen to this stuff?". I said I thought it was important for people to hear about it so that it doesn't get forgotten.

curioser

I sometimes wonder what world I lived in back in the day. I'm of the same generation - a couple of years older - as the first caller. When my contemporaries were "at it" we knew exactly what the possible outcome was. I had both urban and rural experience and knew plenty of extra marital pregnancies where the child was kept by the mother, or both parents. In fact, I never personally knew a lady who went to a Mother and Baby home. Nonetheless I realise that a previous remark I made was distasteful and unwarranted, for which mea culpa.

ShamNNspace

eviltwin wrote: »

Why wouldn't it? She had a job and a large family, if they had just been a bit less worried about the neighbours and focused on their daughter / grandchild it could have been a wonderful experience for them.

I only posed the question, the grandparents did not want the child and believe me a child will allways pick up on the fact that its not wanted and loved and somehow inferior. The sister also said that the poor mother had already had one breakdown. The only way imv was for the mother and child to make a clean break from that family possibly with the help of a sibling or a good strong friend and go her own way maybe in time the gps would come round, maybe not .. that didn't happen

curioser

curioser wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what world I lived in back in the day. I'm of the same generation - a couple of years older - as the first caller. When my contemporaries were "at it" we knew exactly what the possible outcome was. I had both urban and rural experience and knew plenty of extra marital pregnancies where the child was kept by the mother, or both parents. In fact, I never personally knew a lady who went to a Mother and Baby home. Nonetheless I realise that a previous remark I made was distasteful and unwarranted, for which mea culpa.

It's possible you do know someone who went to a mother and baby home, but the story you were told was she had moved to England for a job.

PieOhMy

Havnt listened this week as too miserable of a topic but I think it is overall good for the victims to have a forum to be heard on and for society be confronted with the ugly truth.

I only wonder if Katie would have been a better host with genuine empathy but as i said I wasnt listening so maybe joe was acting more like a normal person than usual.

shearforce

shearforce wrote: »

I actually think it's very important that the whole country listens to this - I avoided it as much as I could but really this needs to be heard.

From my own point of view with young girls at home, I hope it's drove it home with me not to have shame or whatever if they arrive home pregnant and to fully support them.

I do realise I shouldn't have to listen to this show to make me realise this but it helps no doubt.

I'm probably sounding a bit out of touch but so be it. It's made me think anyway and no doubt helps the women to talk about it.

tough radio to listen to though.

My mother was very swayed by the opinion expressed on the radio of a Master of a maternity hospital who was in great praise of young unmarried working class mothers who did a great job of raising their baby and whose immense pride and joy it was in their lives. She even began to want me to get pregnant and was quite disappointed not to ever become a grandmother in any circumstance. She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

TheHomeService

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My mother was very swayed by the opinion expressed on the radio of a Master of a maternity hospital who was in great praise of young unmarried working class mothers who did a great job of raising their baby and whose immense pride and joy it was in their lives. She even began to want me to get pregnant and was quite disappointed not to ever become a grandmother in any circumstance. She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

Talking of intellect, I’m sure your mother would have found a Trinity Graduate turned broadcaster to have been a suitable choice, so to speak and dah! :-)

Odyssey 2005

FrKurtFahrt wrote: »

Oh dear Jesus, this is horrific

Same most days

Odyssey 2005

Roger_007 wrote: »

This story illustrates where the bulk of the blame lies in these cases............it was the parents of the girls who wanted to preserve their “respectability”.

100%

thecretinhop

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/half-those-who-arrived-ireland-23325388

there are no words people are cnts 160k travelled to ire????

Well done Joe promoting dis u clown

Losty Dublin

Deleted User wrote: »

She used to have weird dreams of various faaaaders she would like to do de honours, with (very strangely) broadcaster John Bowman bring a top choice because of his intellect!

Catmaniac Philbin Bowman :pac:

thecretinhop

thecretinhop wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/half-those-who-arrived-ireland-23325388

there are no words people are cnts 160k travelled to ire????

Well done Joe promoting dis u clown

He'll be at it again as soon as he gets the impetus.

I cannot believe an email I got from Amerikay today. First it said that I wasn't to allow myself to attend any fake clinics as they are being set up to take my money and do me harm, second, have I made all my arrangements for a big 60th birthday celebration in March. Totally out of touch.

notwhoyouthink

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

notwhoyouthink

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

Philip, caller.

Dan Jaman

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

PBH did describe Lahvloyne as a place where cranks call to air their grievancies, which I found hilariously apt.

curioser

notwhoyouthink wrote: »

There was a show on this evening with Paul Boucher Hayes. They said that the only resistance to the bank bailout came on the Joe Duffy Show on the day after the guarantee. The caller called it exactly right, and this was the first caller so Joe accurately predicted what would happen. Amazing.

At the risk of sounding pedantic, there is no Joe Duffy show, on RTE or any other radio station. Liveline, presented by Joe Duffy, is on RTE Radio 1 at 1.45 weekdays. Although I am sure the subject of changing the show's name arises regularly at contract negotiations. When, as regularly happens, a caller refers to the Joe Dufffy Show, he never "checks" them.

Dan Jaman

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

Dan Jaman

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

The title "Irish Times" ought these days to be emblazoned in white on a red strip at the top of the front page.

golondrinas1

Always amuses me that when I type liveline my predictive text on the eyepad changes it to lifeline. If it works properly at all it should change it to deathline
My Chinese phone with a Snapdragon 855 chip shows it correctly. Who says we shouldn't trust Chinese phones.

golondrinas1

golondrinas1 wrote: »

Always amuses me that when I type liveline my predictive text on the eyepad changes it to lifeline. If it works properly at all it should change it to deathline
My Chinese phone with a Snapdragon 855 chip shows it correctly. Who says we shouldn't trust Chinese phones.

Mine types NK (Noel Kelly Talent Management) in place of "No".

ButtersSuki

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Puffed up in the IT...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/joe-duffy-et-al-do-what-the-mother-and-baby-home-commission-could-not-1.4458277

Dat fella duz love Joe for some strange reason, no matter how bad de show duz be.

ButtersSuki

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

Odyssey 2005

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

Are you new here ?

Roger_007

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I missed all bar the first 15mins or so of yesterday’s show. Should I listen back?

No, not unless you want to hear stories of pregnant girls who were dumped by their families for fear of wagging tongues but somehow ‘the state’ or the church were responsible.

ButtersSuki

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Dat fella duz love Joe for some strange reason, no matter how bad de show duz be.

Mr Kelly very busy past few daze with LLS and marionetting all over soshal meeja. I've looked into some profiles of doze fawning over RTÉ "stars" and their connections to a certain couple of companies, so to speak. He reckoned dat it would be impossible for "detractors" to counter-reply as it would be very bad taste in light of what was on LLS yesterday. Very manipulative marketing type. He is counting on de fact dat de ordinary Joe Public doesn't scavenge around all the resources to uncover de plot, do to speak. Probably one of de most powerful individuals in Ireland at de moment. Will see a further showering of his interaction on a site familiar to us no doubt. The worst thing folk can't do is respond to these for that is to acknowledge them and throws a spanner into the works of caller their bluff, so to speak.

PieOhMy

Deleted User wrote: »

Mr Kelly very busy past few daze with LLS and marionetting all over soshal meeja. I've looked into some profiles of doze fawning over RTÉ "stars" and their connections to a certain couple of companies, so to speak. He reckoned dat it would be impossible for "detractors" to counter-reply as it would be very bad taste in light of what was on LLS yesterday. Very manipulative marketing type. He is counting on de fact dat de ordinary Joe Public doesn't scavenge around all the resources to uncover de plot, do to speak. Probably one of de most powerful individuals in Ireland at de moment. Will see a further showering of his interaction on a site familiar to us no doubt. The worst thing folk can't do is respond to these for that is to acknowledge them and throws a spanner into the works of caller their bluff, so to speak.

Thats some good digging!
I'm not truly convinced the daily mirror 'article's about some point of that days Ryan Tubridy radio show is a spontenonusly written piece of journalism. Seems more like a standing promotion peice every day. I wouldn't expect morals from a red top, or from rte at this stage but its really shady and sly all the same.

PieOhMy

PieOhMy wrote: »

Thats some good digging!
I'm not truly convinced the daily mirror 'article's about some point of that days Ryan Tubridy radio show is a spontenonusly written piece of journalism. Seems more like a standing promotion peice every day. I wouldn't expect morals from a red top, or from rte at this stage but its really shady and sly all the same.

One or two of the fawners on Twitter etc I clicked into and explored profiles and connections on LinkedIn, leading back in some way to Mr K. I don't have the patience to do an entirely balanced research but if I were an investigative journo with paid subscriptions to detailed companies info etc I'd be very interested in uncovering the influence one individual has in this country's media. Of course which media would employ me, that would be the irony! That's how power is wielded, and that's how it was always wielded, including the RC church etc, with everybody conveniently interdependent. It's all too comfy in RTÉ there to rock the boat, misery porn is very cheap with nobody having to do a paid creative process for material.

KevRossi

^ Plenty of times when a writer writes up some highly complimentary stuff it leads to tickets and names on guest lists for various do's and drinks receptions. It's where they can all hang out together and chinwag and stoke each others ego's.

A good friend of mine years ago worked for a regional paper in Germany. Desperate to get into journalism she accepted the 'What's on in Town' and 'Look who was out last night' segment. Became a borderline alcoholic as she was invited everywhere and had to go everywhere. Got propositioned a lot and had her arse groped most nights. Once she managed a transfer to other stuff she was dropped like a hot potato as they concentrated on her successor.

There's a huge amount of content in the media that's set up and written for them, they just print it and edit it slightly. One hand feeds the other.

I see on Twitter poor Vicky Phelan has found herself in USA, for specialised trial treatment of her advancing cervical cancer, without any basic medical insurance apart from that covered by the hospital for any complications arising from the treatment itself. Eg, if she broke her ankle, got an appendicitis etc, she isn't covered at all. The insurance companies she has approached have said that it's too late to take out insurance now, so she's looking for a practical answer to the dilemma but has desisted any offers to set up a Gofundme page, as that is not appropriate for her unknown potential need. Obviously she was not well advised before her departure, maybe by the hospital treating her, or others. I think she was given to believe that all potential medical expenses would be covered, but not so. If other insurance experts can't help, maybe Joe could advise on de Liveline. I certainly hope she finds a solution fast as treatment in USA is prohibitive and she died by even have likes of basic VHI cover up to €100,000 for expenses abroad.

ShamNNspace

There was a retiring food critic interviewed on the boc show there a while back, she worked for one of the indo stable, anyway she informed us the policy going forward with the new critic would be not to write negative reviews of restaurants going forward.... arry whats the use of that sez I to myself, sure the negative ones are the best.. Everything is getting very magnolia

Has anyone seen Joe's contributions to the TV series "The way we were". I actually love this series as it brings me right back to my chislerhood and teen-hood, and do much of it holds so true, including what Joe dat's on it. However he is so far removed from all dat now, centuries apart.

ShamNNspace

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Has anyone seen Joe's contributions to the TV series "The way we were". I actually love this series as it brings me right back to my chislerhood and teen-hood, and do much of it holds so true, including what Joe dat's on it. However he is so far removed from all dat now, centuries apart.

Too many talking heads on it, I just wanted to see the old footage, some of the comments were sneery and often made by those too young to remember. Joe made out he was sick after drinkin a few bottles of smithwicks if I remember correctly

goose2005

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure even so called sex ed in the mid-90s was half hearted.

We were told "don't do anything God wouldn't want you to do" - in the year 2001. Contraception and abortion were not mentioned

goose2005

goose2005 wrote: »

We were told "don't do anything God wouldn't want you to do" - in the year 2001. Contraception and abortion were not mentioned

Contraception not mentioned? Wow!

My father (believing RC) had very strong views about the need for contraception to be widespread around the world, and my mother (principally observant RC) found her views ever changing. Near the end, in 2009, when she died (rather unexpectedly of hospital infection as happened) she was pleading with me not to talk her out of her basic belief in God, which of course I didn't, as I still didn't and still do not know. I've an open mind there.

ShamNNspace

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Too many talking heads on it, I just wanted to see the old footage, some of the comments were sneery and often made by those too young to remember. Joe made out he was sick after drinkin a few bottles of smithwicks if I remember correctly

I think the fact that the heads are familiar to me makes it feel kind of comfortable. I was Mike Murphy's "daughter" in his first ever TV appearance (aged 1) so feel a bit of nostalgia here. Bray was a big part of my life, mainly because my mother's sister, a widow since I was 4, lived out there is a lovely house with a big garden which formed a significant part of my fondest childhood memories. Used to get to spend a week in the summer in that fine house, any young child's dream. Her daughters still live there in their beautiful Victorian houses, so to me day means a whole lot of good things, including now the great Air Show. The ghost train was fun, but I remember my mother being very concerned about a paedo operating one there, and now I know she must have been dammed right. She used to tell me there is a man there who pretends to like children but he hates them.

My cat has gastronomic tastes similar to Joe. I got myself a treat of Jamón Belota, air dried ham from de acorn-eating Spanish Black Pig, often an acquired taste with its yeasty overtones. Have visited a tiny smallhold where two such pigs were reared by an elderly farmer living in a small cottage up in the mountains beyond Marbella; was a years income for the man, and lovely to see the animals thoroughly enjoying such organic freedom. Anyhow, I partook of a plate of this delicacy thus evening only to have de cat pulling a strip off with his claw and guzzling the precious content down. And he on a special veterinary diet almost more expensive than de Belota.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

My cat has gastronomic tastes similar to Joe. I got myself a treat of Jamón Belota, air dried ham from de acorn-eating Spanish Black Pig, often an acquired taste with its yeasty overtones. Have visited a tiny smallhold where two such pigs were reared by an elderly farmer living in a small cottage up in the mountains beyond Marbella; was a years income for the man, and lovely to see the animals thoroughly enjoying such organic freedom. Anyhow, I partook of a plate of this delicacy thus evening only to have de cat pulling a strip off with his claw and guzzling the precious content down. And he on a special veterinary diet almost more expensive than de Belota.

Fcukker will be looking for Wild Alaskan Salmon on a bed of Dreamies for his lunch next.:eek:

Must have a head like a small frying pan on him.

Roger_007

Deleted User wrote: »

I see on Twitter poor Vicky Phelan has found herself in USA, for specialised trial treatment of her advancing cervical cancer, without any basic medical insurance apart from that covered by the hospital for any complications arising from the treatment itself. Eg, if she broke her ankle, got an appendicitis etc, she isn't covered at all. The insurance companies she has approached have said that it's too late to take out insurance now, so she's looking for a practical answer to the dilemma but has desisted any offers to set up a Gofundme page, as that is not appropriate for her unknown potential need. Obviously she was not well advised before her departure, maybe by the hospital treating her, or others. I think she was given to believe that all potential medical expenses would be covered, but not so. If other insurance experts can't help, maybe Joe could advise on de Liveline. I certainly hope she finds a solution fast as treatment in USA is prohibitive and she died by even have likes of basic VHI cover up to €100,000 for expenses abroad.

What happened to the millions she was awarded? Was that not intended to include cover for future medical expenses?

golondrinas

Roger_007 wrote: »

What happened to the millions she was awarded? Was that not intended to include cover for future medical expenses?

It is my opinion that the cervical cancer checks were set up to help in the detection of that awful curse. I don’t think it was ever championed as a 100% system. This lady has been on every chat show ,every media print outlet. She has been given millions in compensation. Has been given medicines only other sufferers of cancer can dream of, at astronomical cost ( for medicine). We can only watch with her for so long or she will drown us all. I feel her pain but there are poor creatures dying of cancer ever day. Their problem? If they were on a long waiting list, if their cancer was missed.. they are not pushy, or are not articulate enough to shout hey!,,,me me me. I’m sorry but I’d had enough of it and it only started to irate me when a guy started up a big conversation about her on the golf course. If he had to have waited till we got to the clubhouse I wouldn’t be here.
Had to get that off my chest. Sorry if this offends anyone challenged by cancer.

ButtersSuki

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Fcukker will be looking for Wild Alaskan Salmon on a bed of Dreamies for his lunch next.:eek:

Must have a head like a small frying pan on him.

Joe or the cat?

ButtersSuki

ShamNNspace wrote: »

There was a retiring food critic interviewed on the boc show there a while back, she worked for one of the indo stable, anyway she informed us the policy going forward with the new critic would be not to write negative reviews of restaurants going forward.... arry whats the use of that sez I to myself, sure the negative ones are the best.. Everything is getting very magnolia

Because the chef might be offended, and causing offence to even one person trumps truth and free speech so to speak.

#woke

golondrinas

golondrinas wrote: »

It is my opinion that the cervical cancer checks were set up to help in the detection of that awful curse. I don’t think it was ever championed as a 100% system. This lady has been on every chat show ,every media print outlet. She has been given millions in compensation. Has been given medicines only other sufferers of cancer can dream of, at astronomical cost ( for medicine). We can only watch with her for so long or she will drown us all. I feel her pain but there are poor creatures dying of cancer ever day. Their problem? If they were on a long waiting list, if their cancer was missed.. they are not pushy, or are not articulate enough to shout hey!,,,me me me. I’m sorry but I’d had enough of it and it only started to irate me when a guy started up a big conversation about her on the golf course. If he had to have waited till we got to the clubhouse I wouldn’t be here.
Had to get that off my chest. Sorry if this offends anyone challenged by cancer.

I would presume she is a kind of "spokesperson" on behalf of others with cancer in general, maybe who were let down by lack of access to testing too as happened in the case of Suzy Long whose colon cancer symptoms were forced to be put on the long finger until it was too late. Mind you, endoscopy is one of the more accessible things to all folks, where the price of a relatively cheap holiday could be forfeited by most/many to fund a quick access private scope.

I was amazed to see that somebody as erudite and clever as Vicky could have ended up in a country like USA without any medical insurance whatsoever outside of the hospital's indemnify her for any medical expenses their treatment might cause. Im wondering too, if such indemnity would cover her repatriation to Ireland should she (God forbid) suffered likes of a stroke as an unexpected effect of treatment, and where palliative care back home in Ireland would then be more appropriate. Though I know if I were in her shoes I would take almost any opportunities for treatment, anywhere, that might arise.

Gen.Zhukov

I wonder would the resident NW correspondent know anything about the woman in Sligo that - was asked to wear a mask in shop > left the shop > returned to shop > assaulted shop worker.

Can't help thinking there may have been a van or an Avensis outside.

Gen.Zhukov

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

I wonder would the resident NW correspondent know anything about the woman in Sligo that - was asked to wear a mask in shop > left the shop > returned to shop > assaulted shop worker.

Can't help thinking there may have been a van or an Avensis outside.

Ah nah, dat was Sligojoe's missus

sligojoek

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

I wonder would the resident NW correspondent know anything about the woman in Sligo that - was asked to wear a mask in shop > left the shop > returned to shop > assaulted shop worker.

Can't help thinking there may have been a van or an Avensis outside.

That's basically what I heard earlier. Up High St, I think. Supposed to be in court Thursday.

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah nah, dat was Sligojoe's missus

Careful now.

thesandeman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah nah, dat was Sligojoe's missus OR MISTER

Fyp #woke

zell12

Isn't Joe a frontline worker comforting the masses from his dulcet tones five long slogging days a week?

The master of the Coombe maternity hospital in Dublin has apologised after it emerged the hospital gave Covid-19 vaccines to 16 family members of staff.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/dublin-hospital-gave-leftover-vaccines-to-16-relatives-of-staff-1.4460718

2smiggy

nice of him to make sure his 2 children got the vaccine as well .....

golondrinas

2smiggy wrote: »

nice of him to make sure his 2 children got the vaccine as well .....

Disqualify them from receiving the follow up vaccine. That’ll teach ‘em.

Forgot ,Ireland doesn’t do consequences. All one has to do before carefully planning to do the wrong thing is prepare a wonderful, beautiful, wonderful apology. All forgotten before days end.