When will it all end?

the kelt

aido79 wrote: »

Why do people only concentrate on deaths when they talk about restrictions easing?
Can you see that if the virus spreads and lots of old people get it and become seriously ill and require hospital treatment but none of them die it's still a problem because they are taking up lots of beds in hospitals?
This turn means there are less beds, nurses and doctors available for younger patients and non covid related patients.
How much worse will the economy be in May than it is now?

Jesus Christ that argument has been going for the bones of 9 months now, "sure what difference will another couple of weeks mean"

Couple of weeks later

"sure what difference will another couple of weeks mean"

Couple of weeks later

"sure the whole things ****ed now anyway, what difference will another couple of weeks mean"

We were always going to be lock down till April 5th, sure that was obvious.

aido79

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am not sure if you are serious or not. You basically dont want any1 to have covid in case they become "sick" and occupy hospital beds?

Basically you want restrictions in place even if nobody is dying with covid?

Thats er, erm, I am speechless actually. please do answer the 2 questions above.

I'm not sure what part you are struggling with to be honest. Do you need a little reminder about the reason for the restrictions. It's to protect the health service from getting overrun which is what would happen if there are an excess of covid patients in the hospitals whether they die or not.

PPAP

PPAP wrote: »

If they are old and vulnerable they are going to get Covid and be sick anyway, vaccine's are not magic, alot of people are still going to get sick with them, we've to accept that's the risk of being an older human in 2021.Look at the nursing homes, still people dieing after getting vaccines and staff getting sick after being vaccinated, there will be much less sick and dieing with vaccine's, but plenty will still be sick and end up in hospital even if 100% of country is vaccinated.

If the vaccines are 95% efficacous, 250,000 people can still get Covid and if 5% of that 250,000 need hospital treatment, that's 12,500 in hospital and if 10% of those hospitalised die that 1,250 deaths

People need to realise alot of people are still going to end up in hospital, alot are still going to die, covid is not going away, even even with vaccine's, get used to it

Restrictions are not to protect people.
They are to protect the health service

Doctor Jimbob

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

What year?

Hopefully this one!!!!

Kunta Kinte

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Paddygreen <3<3

The stuff he came out with had me rolling on d floor.

Nope. That would be you with your hilarious BS. I see your latest ban from the relaxations thread (Is that 2 or 3 bans now? It`s tricky to keep up with them) from the relaxations thread hasn`t taught you anything.

Ginger n Lemon

What a sad sad upsetting day. Its even more sad given yesterdays good news announcement from the UK.

I am truly embarrassed for this nanny state government, I never thought politicians could sink so low.

And to think that there are individuals out there who think that 20% + unemployment for 9 out of last 11 months is fine and can continue to May this year is absolutely beyond me.

Silentcorner

aido79 wrote: »

I'm not sure what part you are struggling with to be honest. Do you need a little reminder about the reason for the restrictions. It's to protect the health service from getting overrun which is what would happen if there are an excess of covid patients in the hospitals whether they die or not.

We are heading to numbers in the region of 400 Covid patients in a health system with 11,000 beds....many of whom will have got the virus in hospital, doesn't sound like it'll be overrun anytime soon.

SnuggyBear

[Deleted User] wrote: »

UK's plan isn't particular adventurous or ambitious based on how quickly they're vaccinating.

Ye it's actually pretty cautious

Ginger n Lemon

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I don't know why people are still talking as if we're in January. I feel like I've stepped into some kind of parallel universe sometimes.

You have. There is planet earth. and there is planet covid.

On planet covid hospitals could be overrun any day, they are 99% likely to be overrun when Anto in Finglas re opens his barber shop. They are even more likely to be overrun when vaccines are being rolled out daily.

Its truly embarrassing.

Silentcorner

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I don't know why people are still talking as if we're in January. I feel like I've stepped into some kind of parallel universe sometimes.

Variants....variants, that is why they have been all over media in recent weeks.

Ignore the blatant seasonality factor at all costs!!!

This is getting beyond reckless government at this stage!!!

Multipass

bubblypop wrote: »

Restrictions are not to protect people.
They are to protect the health service

They are to protect the careers of the inept managers of the health service, and the inept politicians who oversee them.

Kunta Kinte

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

What a sad sad upsetting day. Its even more sad given yesterdays good news announcement from the UK.

I am truly embarrassed for this nanny state government, I never thought politicians could sink so low.

And to think that there are individuals out there who think that 20% + unemployment for 9 out of 11 months is fine and can continue to May this year is absolutely beyond me.

Well you know you could always call for people to have a protest march about it. Maybe stone the Gardai and destroy and loot a few shops while they are at it just like the one in Holland that you were cheerleading previously?

buzzing147

Asked this before don't think got reply, anyone know for how long a business closes, when staff have covid? Butchers beside me closed last week, still closed, because staff members tested positive, only butchers in area😒

Ginger n Lemon

One of the hospitals in Limerick.

They will be overrun in 4...3....2......

welcome to planet covid. We should extend the level 5 lockdown until 2022 to be certain we dont overwhelm these hard working nurses.

How bad will the economy be in April 2022? :mad:

ujjjjjjjjj

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Ye it's actually pretty cautious

Agreed it is very cautious which makes what the muppets are doing here even more ridiculous.....

iagreebut

Multipass wrote: »

They are to protect the careers of the inept managers of the health service, and the inept politicians who oversee them.

The politicians are not to blame nor are the great manager's of the health system.

They are trying to protect our best interests, I don't understand why people are having a go at the health system or politicians.
They're there to protect us and they have professional people who are in the background working hard to get rid of the pandemic.

I don't know why people are annoyed at the progress going on.
These are our heroes, we'll have a roof over our heads, food on the table and plenty of entertainment via Netflix and Amazon prime etc

If any of us can't afford our mortgages or rent, we might have to buckle up and go through some more pain.

Listening to those concerned people on the radio add's warms my heart, stick together, stay apart, work together stay apart.
No doubt they have people who are paid handsomely to come up with these sound bites, and proper order if it's tax payers money.
Senior civil servants and politicians and similar people are grateful for our positive impact on keeping the virus at bay.

Reopening the schools will be a great achievement, because they're our future.

I've friends who are working as carer's looking after the vunerable and people who can't look after themselves.

There's light getting through the cracks now, so we'll be progressing to gradual opening up of the country.

Our health service is the most important thing we have, because of the health system we have nothing.

Hang on in there, because it'll be worth it.

Better to stick with level 5 because we don't want it to be like Christmas again, people lacking lustre for social distancing, the virus running rampant through restaurants and home's.

It's only a few more months, but we're going to be out of this.

And another thing, I think we're all going to adapt well to the new normal.. our government, health system and senior civil servants are well capable of helping us to get back on our feet, they're professional and know what's best for our welfare.

opinionated3

iagreebut wrote: »

The politicians are not to blame nor are the great manager's of the health system.

They are trying to protect our best interests, I don't understand why people are having a go at the health system or politicians.
They're there to protect us and they have professional people who are in the background working hard to get rid of the pandemic.

I don't know why people are annoyed at the progress going on.
These are our heroes, we'll have a roof over our heads, food on the table and plenty of entertainment via Netflix and Amazon prime etc

If any of us can't afford our mortgages or rent, we might have to buckle up and go through some more pain.

Listening to those concerned people on the radio add's warms my heart, stick together, stay apart, work together stay apart.
No doubt they have people who are paid handsomely to come up with these sound bites, and proper order if it's tax payers money.
Senior civil servants and politicians and similar people are grateful for our positive impact on keeping the virus at bay.

Reopening the schools will be a great achievement, because they're our future.

I've friends who are working as carer's looking after the vunerable and people who can't look after themselves.

There's light getting through the cracks now, so we'll be progressing to gradual opening up of the country.

Our health service is the most important thing we have, because of the health system we have nothing.

Hang on in there, because it'll be worth it.

Better to stick with level 5 because we don't want it to be like Christmas again, people lacking lustre for social distancing, the virus running rampant through restaurants and home's.

It's only a few more months, but we're going to be out of this.

And another thing, I think we're all going to adapt well to the new normal.. our government, health system and senior civil servants are well capable of helping us to get back on our feet, they're professional and know what's best for our welfare.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm??!

ujjjjjjjjj

Well that was an utter load of tripe from Mehole. Don't even know what to say anymore...........he may as well have just stuck up some old speech from Leo and saved the elecy bill.

Not one shred of detail...................utter waffle.

iagreebut

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

One of the hospitals in Limerick.

They will be overrun in 4...3....2......

welcome to planet covid. We should extend the level 5 lockdown until 2022 to be certain we dont overwhelm these hard working nurses.

How bad will the economy be in April 2022? :mad:

They're our heroes and they're working hard, and they'll deserve a bonus after all of this.
Like I said 20 Euro should be deducted from the pup and put in their pockets.
They should also get a holiday too, and be the first people to fly out of the country and get some well deserved sun.
Along with pharmacists and general practitioners.

If there's a covid vaccine passport it might be worth suggesting a nominal fee for the procurement and administrative costs.

iagreebut

opinionated3 wrote: »

I'm assuming this is sarcasm??!

No I'm serious, were in a serious situation here.

It's no laughing matter, I'm all for lockdown until we're at zero covid.

Ginger n Lemon

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Well that was an utter load of tripe from Mehole. Don't even know what to say anymore...........he may as well have just stuck up some old speech from Leo and saved the elecy bill.

Not one shred of detail...................utter waffle.

The only way things will change is if enough protest. Theres a 2 o clock protest in Stephens Green in Dublin this Saturday. I will be there as theres too much hate built up to just sit around for another 6 weeks.

iagreebut

iagreebut wrote: »

The politicians are not to blame nor are the great manager's of the health system.







LOL

ujjjjjjjjj

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

The only way things will change is if enough protest. Theres a 2 o clock protest in Stephens Green in Dublin this Saturday. I will be there as theres too much hate built up to just sit around for another 6 weeks.

Sounds like a plan !! Any links to any info on it ??

iagreebut

Deleted User wrote: »

iagreebut wrote: »

The politicians are not to blame nor are the great manager's of the health system.







LOL

It's not funny, this is serious.
I'm not laughing here.
It's serious.

Ginger n Lemon

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Sounds like a plan !! Any links to any info on it ??

St Stephens Green 2 o clock. Thats all the info you need.

I personally cant sit around anymore.

iagreebut

iagreebut wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not funny, this is serious.
I'm not laughing here.
It's serious.

Then you would need to catch a grip of yourself fairly lively. Inept management and gutless politicians have created the septic HSE as it is. They are absolutely to blame.

ujjjjjjjjj

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

St Stephens Green 2 o clock. Thats all the info you need.

I personally cant sit around anymore.

Okay !! Ta.

Allinall

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

The only way things will change is if enough protest. Theres a 2 o clock protest in Stephens Green in Dublin this Saturday. I will be there as theres too much hate built up to just sit around for another 6 weeks.

Nice one. Potentially string out the lockdown even further.

Will it be a socially distant, mask wearing protest?

Silentcorner

Allinall wrote: »

Nice one. Potentially string out the lockdown even further.

Will it be a socially distant, mask wearing protest?

It's gonna be better than that...everyone is going to wheel their beds up O'Connell St and hide under them!