When will it all end?

El_Duderino 09

HansKroenke wrote: »

172 people too many, just so you can have a pint. And long covid too.

Hurr durr rabble rabble.

Context is the word totally lost on anti-relaxxers and covid doomers. Don't even try to highlight that mental health is a far, far greater worry for the U55s than covid.

Anti-relaxers. Haha. Touche.

ujjjjjjjjj

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How do we know they’re idiots if we can’t tell the difference between them ballsing it up and them effectively distributing the vaccines they have?

History......and form...............

Scotty #

Scotty # wrote: »

How many have been hospitalised?

10 billion.

Kunta Kinte

Mr. Karate wrote: »

And I should care about what you think....why?

So no evidence for your anti HSE rant, just a jibe. Why am I not surprised?

stefanovich

Mr. Karate wrote: »

HSE gone from scandal to scandal to scandal. They're Idiots. Incompetence should be unacceptable with this. The media love calling anybody not following these restrictions to the letter "Granny Killers". Maybe that term should be reflected back at the HSE. Lord knows their incompetence will kill more people than John or Jane Doe not wearing a mask 24/7 or going an inch over 5kms.

If you have ever had an elderly relative in A&E in a public hospital you will know how incompetent the HSE are. Literally 3rd world conditions.

The entire senior management of the HSE needs to be replaced.

ujjjjjjjjj

Deleted User wrote: »

10 billion.

Wow !!

On a serious note it's pretty irrelevant - the only thing to look at deaths and people admitted to ICU. We can all agree that ICU admission and deaths are serious. Hospitalisations means little - some people end up casualty when all they need is a parcetamol and a couple of nights sleep so it's hardly an accurate measure. If they get admitted for a night for observation they count towards the hospitalised figure but it means little in terms of measuring the severity of this disease. Person A self treats, Person B goes to hospital - it's a personality thing. My sister in law for example ends up in hospital 10-12 times a years with herself and kids over anything from a small cut to a bump on the head - why to be safe to be safe to be safe.....I would have to be half dead and losing consciousness to go near a hospital......not saying either perspective is absolutely right but there is a huge variation in what people deem to be 'sick enough' to go to hospital and in this day and age hospitals are loath just to tell people they are probably okay and to head home.

Scotty #

Deleted User wrote: »

10 billion.

Ahh, the usual "I've nothing bright to say so I'll just post brainless nonsense". Why bother?

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

On a serious note it's pretty irrelevant...
but it means little in terms of measuring the severity of this disease....

lol... it's relevant if you want to know how many hospitalisations there were. No? I wasn't asking in relation to the severity of the disease.

The UK roadmap's estimation is a 75% drop in Covid cases going forward. We've had 230,000 positive cases and I was wondering if brains above had the total hospitalisation figures seeing as he had the death figures. That's all.

Scotty #

Scotty # wrote: »

Ahh, the usual "I've nothing bright to say so I'll just post brainless nonsense". Why bother?

Nah, any number will be too many for some people.

Looks like about 5% of cases result in hospitalisation, gonna go out on a limb and guess that the vast majority of hospitalisations are also of the elderly. Some solid numbers broken down by age would lovely but I don't think 10s of thousands of healthy 30 year have been hospitalised.

El_Duderino 09

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

History......and form...............

Maybe. I would wait to see if they had supply and didn't distribute it or if they distributed the supply they had. It's probably better than jumping to the conclusion that they ballsed it up.

Mr. Karate

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

So no evidence for your anti HSE rant, just a jibe. Why am I not surprised?

I was listening to it on my radio's news updates. I don't give a damn if you don't believe me.

Mr. Karate

stefanovich wrote: »

If you have ever had an elderly relative in A&E in a public hospital you will know how incompetent the HSE are. Literally 3rd world conditions.

The entire senior management of the HSE needs to be replaced.

My 82 year old Mother has been in and out of the hospital for the last few years. I am sadly well aware of their negligence and incompetence.

HansKroenke

When will it all end?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/state-s-high-debt-levels-leave-it-exposed-to-rising-interest-rates-donohoe-warns-1.4501394?mode=amp

One side of the mouth of the government makes no plan and communicates no indication as to when the end of restrictions is happening or what the end might look like. At the same time, the other side of the mouth mentions the financial cost and how it might not be sustainable for the State to keep paying businesses not to trade and employees to sit on their arses.

State supports cannot be unwound fully until all restrictions are eased, it just will not be workable to tell certain businesses to trade with limited capacity (eg bars with social distancing) while at the same time telling those businesses that supports are being unwound.

BringBackMick

Why isn't there any main stream opposition to the level of restrictions?

Surely by now outdoor sport and outdoor cafes should be open.

Kids can't even do football training? Come on, let's get things moving for jasus sake.

Plumbthedepths

BringBackMick wrote: »

Why isn't there any main stream opposition to the level of restrictions?

Surely by now outdoor sport and outdoor cafes should be open.

Kids can't even do football training? Come on, let's get things moving for jasus sake.

Anyone that wants restrictions eased is accused of only wanting a pint and a desire to kill someone's granny.

lee_baby_simms

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anyone that wants restrictions eased is accused of only wanting a pint and a desire to kill someone's granny.

You forgot “probably has ties to the far right.”

Silentcorner

BringBackMick wrote: »

Why isn't there any main stream opposition to the level of restrictions?

Surely by now outdoor sport and outdoor cafes should be open.

Kids can't even do football training? Come on, let's get things moving for jasus sake.

I think...I mean I hope we are at peak hysteria, I don't know how they can keep up the fear for another month let alone another 3 it's beyond obvious to a large cohort that what we are doing now is just madness....mind you I thought that last June!

Plumbthedepths

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think...I mean I hope we are at peak hysteria, I don't know how they can keep up the fear for another month let alone another 3 it's beyond obvious to a large cohort that what we are doing now is just madness....mind you I thought that last June!

I switched to Newstalk on the way home from work last night, it was a repeat of Pat Kenny. Now that was a lesson in hysteria. That is what is in the airwaves every single day. RTE had an article highlighting the number of children who contracted Covid as their lead story on their Newsapp on Monday. The same day many children went back to school. The media is driving the fear .

ujjjjjjjjj

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think...I mean I hope we are at peak hysteria, I don't know how they can keep up the fear for another month let alone another 3 it's beyond obvious to a large cohort that what we are doing now is just madness....mind you I thought that last June!

Like that 'peak hysteria'.......

Unfortunately if Holohan and the rest keep going the peak won't be Alpine and more like Lugnaquilla.....

Dr. Bre

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anyone that wants restrictions eased is accused of only wanting a pint and a desire to kill someone's granny.

Or is anti vax etc..

Tazz T

BringBackMick wrote: »

Why isn't there any main stream opposition to the level of restrictions?

Surely by now outdoor sport and outdoor cafes should be open.

Kids can't even do football training? Come on, let's get things moving for jasus sake.

Because according the media that makes you a 'thug' and a 'conspiracy theorist'

the kelt

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Or is anti vax etc..

And only gets their information from Facebook and Twitter

Tazz T

Tazz T wrote: »

Because according the media that makes you a 'thug' and a 'conspiracy theorist'

Some posters on other COVID-19 threads here on this forum even went as far as suggesting "racism" and the "far-right" were principally involved.

bucketybuck

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think...I mean I hope we are at peak hysteria, I don't know how they can keep up the fear for another month let alone another 3 it's beyond obvious to a large cohort that what we are doing now is just madness....mind you I thought that last June!

There are a lot of people so wrapped up in that fear that they probably couldn't live without it at this stage. They have lost all perspective, it is all fear all the time and you couldn't explain to them that it is unnecessary.

You all know the type, scared to walk past people on the street, running in the other direction if they met somebody on the stairs, impotently seething and glaring at children who aren't wearing masks in the park.

Covid is their identify, fueled by a constant diet of fear from the media. It is sad, and they are going to be another statistic in the mental health damage that is going to define this country pretty soon.

HansKroenke

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some posters on other COVID-19 threads here on this forum even went as far as suggesting "racism" and the "far-right" were principally involved.

There are extremists in the covid world and the scary thing is that they do not realise they are extremists. Those who express opinions about closing borders, how partying college students should be arrested, how the government are infallible and must be 100% supported, where calling for nuance and context in the discussion makes you "not with us, so against us" etc.

lee_baby_simms

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I switched to Newstalk on the way home from work last night, it was a repeat of Pat Kenny. Now that was a lesson in hysteria.

So what has Pat had to sacrifice due to the pandemic?

He doesn’t have to worry about getting a qualification, finding a job during the inevitable recession and trying to get on the property ladder that is like a mirage to many young people.

He also hasn’t missed out on socialising and meeting someone you may end up starting a family with.

Students have had to pay a much heavier toll in order to protect the likes of Pat.

So yes they had a party. Outdoors mind. They broke the rules. They’re students ffs and they been largely compliant through all this.

Just like the Berlin bar and the “far right nazi”protests...these events are magnified and exploited to spoon feed to an Irish population who are so programmed at this stage that they can’t see the wood from the trees.

gozunda

HansKroenke wrote: »

There are extremists in the covid world and the scary thing is that they do not realise they are extremists. Those who express opinions about closing borders, how partying college students should be arrested, how the government are infallible and must be 100% supported, where calling for nuance and context in the discussion makes you "not with us, so against us" etc.

Who are these hive mind extremists of which you speak?

HansKroenke

gozunda wrote: »

Who are these hive mind extremists of which you speak?

https://youtu.be/YmlMedHI9to

Frightening that these people have a national platform to broadcast their extremist views.

SilentGreenx32

When are the barbers or hairdressers going to open? Is there any sign of anything opening up in April? This is just going far too long now

Monster249

SilentGreenx32 wrote: »

When are the barbers or hairdressers going to open? Is there any sign of anything opening up in April? This is just going far too long now

And what's hilarious is that we'll have to pay for it in the next few years. They're happy enough to be the most conservative in the continent because the public will pay for it.

Beasty

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anyone that wants restrictions eased is accused of only wanting a pint and a desire to kill someone's granny.

Maybe you should recognise your own views on the term from December:

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A particularly nasty label was 'granny killer'.

Now stop using that term