When will it all end?

james1976

james1976 wrote: »

I hope they open things somewhat during the summer months, probably level 4 then 3 until the seasons change, then back into lockdown. It will never ever go back to normal. They've been dropping hints for that since the very start of this sorry mess. If you liked staying at home for the rona, you're going to love it for climate change.

You're right: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/03/03/report-world-needs-equivalent-of-pandemic-lockdown-every-two-years-to-meet-paris-carbon-emission-goals/?sh=4c205d166dee

Mr. Karate

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0304/1200855-coronavirus-ireland/

"The Deputy Chief Medical Officer has said that NPHET has been made aware of four preliminary reports of stillbirths in Ireland, that could potentially be associated with a condition called Covid Placentitis.

Dr Ronan Glynn said that these reports should be interpreted with caution as the coroners have not concluded their findings"

How about waiting until the coroners have concluded their findings......irresponsible from Glynn and NPHET.........

President Trump was right when he declared the Media to be the Enemy of the People. They have certainly proved it with their handling of this virus.

drunkmonkey

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https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/republic-of-irelands-slower-vaccination-programme-does-bring-headaches-for-northern-ireland-arlene-foster-40160718.html

Here’s the next handlebars

I don't know how they're going to control us invading...

Michelle O'Neill said she was hopeful Northern Ireland would have reached stage five of the exit strategy by June 10.

Among the activities included in stage five are the full return of face-to-face teaching for university and further education students, celebrating birthdays with friends, the resumption of concerts and festivals, the reopening of nightclubs, and live music and dancing at wedding receptions.

PTH2009

This new development with the stillborn babies will add fuel to the fire in terms of not losing the restrictions

'We can't be having pregnant women working/visiting non essential retail, offices or in hospitality and mixing with the general public esp with these new variants around'

NPHET aren't going to suggest anything under level 3 and will want it modified to stop hospitality opening. The issue is we don't have the leaders strong enough to tell them no we need reopen the economy

HansKroenke

gozunda wrote: »

So from that video:


So from that you are saying - Niamh - a University of Limerick Student and Simon Harris - Minister of Higher Education are extremists because of the above?

The definition of an extremist being :



Don't reckon it's Niamh or Mr Harris broadcasting that is at fault there tbh ...

Part of the problem. If you can't see the extremist mob, you're in it.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I don't know how they're going to control us invading...

Michelle O'Neill said she was hopeful Northern Ireland would have reached stage five of the exit strategy by June 10.

Among the activities included in stage five are the full return of face-to-face teaching for university and further education students, celebrating birthdays with friends, the resumption of concerts and festivals, the reopening of nightclubs, and live music and dancing at wedding receptions.

Oh it will absolutely be us that’s the problem. A lot more people live in the border regions than this government thinks and if they think we’re going to live like this while the lads across the border are practically back to normal they have another thing coming.

gozunda

HansKroenke wrote: »

Part of the problem. If you can't see the extremist mob, you're in it.

So two people make up a mob (of extremists)

Do enlighten us more of this deep philosophy
:pac:

ujjjjjjjjj

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Oh it will absolutely be us that’s the problem. A lot more people live in the border regions than this government thinks and if they think we’re going to live like this while the lads across the border are practically back to normal they have another thing coming.

Irish government ignoring this and hoping it goes away is government policy atm in this regard....

Ryanair with their massive boost to Belfast with new flights is two giant fingers to the Irish government. M1 is going to be jammed....going north.....

Irish government needs to now be on the phone to Boris working on a two island policy, we have some leverage here if we are smart......but smart isn't exactly in ample supply atm.

dalyboy

When will it be over ?
It’s over when others are over. Simple and straightforward. Why wait for daddy Martin to announce your life can return to being an actual LIFE and not a virtual prisoner.

.....................> circa early to mid June =

https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/Offer/Take-the-Enterprise-service-to-Belfast

Would you like a creamy pint of Guinness in a nice BAR (not Hungary €9 meal ? not at all thanks)

Want to buy some clothes or buy some games in an actual store ? Go on in they’re open. (Click and collect Leo ? Wtf ! )

Want a game of golf or tennis ? Maybe a swim in a pool ? Cool. Fire ahead.

Welcome to Northern Ireland

It can be all yours for €17.99 RETURN (if you indeed really need to return!)

ujjjjjjjjj

dalyboy wrote: »

When will it be over ?
It’s over when others are over. Simple and straightforward. Why wait for daddy Martin to announce your life can return to being an actual LIFE and not a virtual prisoner.

.....................> circa early to mid June =

https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/Offer/Take-the-Enterprise-service-to-Belfast

Would you like a creamy pint of Guinness in a nice BAR (not Hungary €9 meal ? not at all thanks)

Want to buy some clothes or buy some games in an actual store ? Go on in they’re open. (Click and collect Leo ? Wtf ! )

Want a game of golf or tennis ? Maybe a swim in a pool ? Cool. Fire ahead.

Welcome to Northern Ireland

It can be all yours for €17.99 RETURN (if you indeed really need to return!)

Or hop on Ryanair flight to Spain or Greece !!

dalyboy

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Or hop on Ryanair flight to Spain or Greece !!

True. Via Belfast airport .

Tissues at the ready.

Bye bye Ireland

ujjjjjjjjj

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Or hop on Ryanair flight to Spain or Greece !!

I imagine that huge numbers of people will emigrate later this year.

ujjjjjjjjj

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Irish government ignoring this and hoping it goes away is government policy atm in this regard....

Ryanair with their massive boost to Belfast with new flights is two giant fingers to the Irish government. M1 is going to be jammed....going north.....

Irish government needs to now be on the phone to Boris working on a two island policy, we have some leverage here if we are smart......but smart isn't exactly in ample supply atm.

Very true but I can’t see any of that happening any time soon. At least if we did a bubble with the UK or something but no no. That’d be no good.
I wonder does MM know this is his last run? He will never be forgotten for this one!

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I imagine that huge numbers of people will emigrate later this year.

I can’t see too many emigrating tbh. But I can see full flights to Lanzo from Belfast for sure.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I can’t see too many emigrating tbh. But I can see full flights to Lanzo from Belfast for sure.

It'll be interesting to see what happens. I imagine lot of people are considering it.

Charles Babbage

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Or hop on Ryanair flight to Spain or Greece !!

If Spain or Greece has any sense then they will only admit vaccinated people.

dalyboy

Charles Babbage wrote: »

If Spain or Greece has any sense then they will only admit vaccinated people.

Most of European hospitality will be booming this summer. They’ll need the money to survive after the bust of last year.
Continental political pressure all but guarantees they’ll be open.


All except Ireland

ujjjjjjjjj

dalyboy wrote: »

Most of European hospitality will be booming this summer. They’ll need the money to survive after the bust of last year.
Continental political pressure all but guarantees they’ll be open.


All except Ireland

Yup agree Spain and Greece have no choice, they can't go on like this. Beaches will be packed this summer, guaranteed.

HansKroenke

gozunda wrote: »

So two people make up a mob (of extremists)

Do enlighten us more of this deep philosophy
:pac:

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/zero-covid-vaccine-5369709-Mar2021/

Another national media publication. Read through the 10 steps and it is frightening how extreme these measures are. Again, these people do not think they are extremists for spouting this sort of stuff, which is disturbing. If you want, I can pull out individual posters' posts, but as I said, things like calling for the Gardai and army to break up peaceful house parties, arresting people for insulting the covid gods by not putting a bit of face covering on their face etc. is what is extremist behaviour.

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I imagine that huge numbers of people will emigrate later this year.

If it's for some of the reasoning as outlined in this thread - it will be to our gain and some other countries loss.

HansKroenke

HansKroenke wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/zero-covid-vaccine-5369709-Mar2021/

Another national media publication. Read through the 10 steps and it is frightening how extreme these measures are. Again, these people do not think they are extremists for spouting this sort of stuff, which is disturbing. If you want, I can pull out individual posters' posts, but as I said, things like calling for the Gardai and army to break up peaceful house parties, arresting people for insulting the covid gods by not putting a bit of face covering on their face etc. is what is extremist behaviour.

How the hell does this guy get away with spouting this absolute nonsense!!!
Totally irrelevant he is. And panicking his 5 minutes of fame is up.

gozunda

HansKroenke wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/zero-covid-vaccine-5369709-Mar2021/

Another national media publication. Read through the 10 steps and it is frightening how extreme these measures are. Again, these people do not think they are extremists for spouting this sort of stuff, which is disturbing. If you want, I can pull out individual posters' posts, but as I said, things like calling for the Gardai and army to break up peaceful house parties, arresting people for insulting the covid gods by not putting a bit of face covering on their face etc. is what is extremist behaviour.

No that's not explaining what was asked at all

You stated there were "exremists" who

HansKroenke wrote:

who express opinions about closing borders, how partying college students should be arrested, how the government are infallible and must be 100% supported

Asked who these "extremists" were you linked to a YouTube video of a media interview with a student from UL called Niamh and the Minister of Higher Education - Simon Harris. That these two two people were not only "extremists" but also part of a "mob".

You now introduced an opinion based article by Professor Sam McConkey which again fails to explain how any of the above are "extremists" viz.

a person who holds extreme political or religious views, especially one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme action.

But :eek: here's some of those "frightening" and "extreme" 10 steps from your linked article. Realy truely terrifyingly frightening ...

3. We need to make it easier for people to access GP care, by providing telephone translators for migrant workers, for example.

8. We can help people to do the right thing by providing organised financial support and voluntary practical support for those in isolation or restricted movements, to help with childcare, family caring, shopping, loneliness and isolation.

...


:rolleyes:

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

If it's for some of the reasoning as outlined in this thread - it will be to our gain and some other countries loss.

Could you see why people mightn't like the idea of living in this new normal Ireland?

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Could you see why people mightn't like the idea of living in this new normal Ireland?

I see a hell of a lot of daft exaggeration that because a pandemic somehow the "lockdown" and "level 5" restrictions will go on forever.

But I take it - you mean the fact we are in the midst of a pandemic ie a global outbreak of a virulent disease - that has affected every country on the planet.

That no country has been entirely without restrictions. That in Ireland it has already been detailed that restrictions will be rolled back as the risk of rising case numbers and as a consequence presure on our health services decrease.

That we are only at the start of our vaccination programme and need to continue to observe restrictions for the short term at least .

That it's required for people to have a bit of basic cop on.

Other than all that? No.

drunkmonkey

Cheers to all the people who haven't developed Stockholm syndrome yet.
Day 350 of the hostage situation and counting.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How the hell does this guy get away with spouting this absolute nonsense!!!
Totally irrelevant he is. And panicking his 5 minutes of fame is up.

McConkey and the media are a match made in heaven right now. He wants his 5 mins of fame and to spout nonsense. They want to sell fear and misery.

Unfortunately for both, the vaccines are here and normality will be returning sooner than later.

Interesting suggestions from McConkey.

7. When people who have Covid-19 do not self-isolate after being advised and encouraged, then legal enforcement is needed.

It does seem on the positive side that this would stop perfectly healthy people seeking tests.

9. Local teams of outbreak management staff at village and town or parish area could visit households where outbreaks have occurred, to offer support, and provide pop-up testing in those areas. They could also investigate businesses where outbreaks have occurred, and provide education and encouragement for change to businesses where outbreaks are suspected.

Maybe we could provide them with brown shirts?

El_Duderino 09

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0304/1200855-coronavirus-ireland/

"The Deputy Chief Medical Officer has said that NPHET has been made aware of four preliminary reports of stillbirths in Ireland, that could potentially be associated with a condition called Covid Placentitis.

Dr Ronan Glynn said that these reports should be interpreted with caution as the coroners have not concluded their findings"

How about waiting until the coroners have concluded their findings......irresponsible from Glynn and NPHET.........

Because the news reports preliminary findings all the time. And as long as you report preliminary findings as preliminary findings, then it’s just giving the information as it stands right now.

Nobody objects to the research the vaccine reducing transmission rates being reported as long as it’s explained that they are preliminary findings which have not been peer reviewed yet. It’s normal. I have objected to the poster who called those preliminary findings “proof”.

Why would we object to RTE reporting preliminary findings on this topic? Would Is it because you think it doesn’t suit your general case that we should open up sooner rather than later?

El_Duderino 09

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cheers to all the people who haven't developed Stockholm syndrome yet.
Day 350 of the hostage situation and counting.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

...
Maybe we could provide them with brown shirts?

Hostage situation and Nazi references within a couple of posts.

Lads, time to have a relax.

If you’re feeling like a hostage or you feel persecution comparable to nazi Germany, then you’ve completely lost perspective on the whole situation.

Irish Stones

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Yup agree Spain and Greece have no choice, they can't go on like this. Beaches will be packed this summer, guaranteed.

Then, in October, we'll have the ICU's packed. Guaranteed.