When will it all end?

Micky 32

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You could have been asymptomatic spreading your flu all over the place.

Lol yeah that must be it. Asymptomatic flu is quite rare. The hysteria is becoming hilarious.:D

drunkmonkey

Micky 32 wrote: »

Lol yeah that must be it. Asymptomatic flu is quite rare. The hysteria is becoming hilarious.:D

CDC says it's 50% the same as Covid. :eek:

Micky 32

drunkmonkey wrote: »

CDC says it's 50% the same as Covid. :eek:

I have read conflicting results for that and being asymptomatic every year for 10 years seems unlikely, of course vaccinated people may have benefited me... Anyhow if you want to hide under your bed to avoid the flu be my guest.

HBC08

Hellrazer wrote: »

I think its 2.2 million J&J vaccines are supposed to be allocated to Ireland before the end of March.

That would be a game changer if they were all delivered...actually it would probably be game over for Nphet.

Ireland is not getting 2.2m doses of a vaccine thats not even approved in the next 3 weeks.
We won't be getting 2 million doses of all the other vaccines combined either before the end of March.

No need for the personal abuse

Mr. Karate

bucketybuck wrote: »

Which comes back to the point that certain posters couldn't wrap their heads around a few days ago.

When covid is done there will be other public health threats, and lockdowns have now been normalised as a way to deal with them.

The sad reality too many Irish willingly go along with this [even considering throwing your mask away once your vaccinated is enough to make these Covidologists go nuts] that its only a matter of time before the Govt tries this again. And these clowns will go along with it again.

drunkmonkey

Micky 32 wrote: »

I have read conflicting results for that and being asymptomatic every year for 10 years seems unlikely, of course vaccinated people may have benefited me... Anyhow if you want to hide under your bed to avoid the flu be my guest.

Flu doesn't worry me in the slightest neither does Covid but I can see some people freaking about it. Tony has form when it comes to hyping it up.

papu

Mr. Karate wrote: »

The sad reality too many Irish willingly go along with this [even considering throwing your mask away once your vaccinated is enough to make these Covidologists go nuts] that its only a matter of time before the Govt tries this again. And these clowns will go along with it again.

Tries what again, a global pandemic?

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah the summer will be great. The questions are about what will happen next winter and whether restriction will need to be reimposed or not.

Why do you think this?

markodaly

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well it’s easy to predict the posters who will get defensive if the words ‘misery merchants’is ever mentioned. Quite predictable

Lol admit to what? I’m not wrong at all and stand by it. It’s just you live in your one dimensional deluded world it seems and believe any poll that’s published. Real life in my experience makes your poll quite flawed.

You’ll find that ‘most’ of my posts don’t begin and end with ‘misery merchants’, unlike your exaggerated “ a few weeks” seem to be your favourite qoute.

That is Trump talk to be fair.

Many of your posts are needlessly aggressive, whereby anyone who disagrees with you gets some semi-personal jab.

As per the polls, they are not my polls, but polls carried out by polling agencies, which appear to have a pattern, that most people are happy with the current level of restrictions. I guess, they must all be wrong and you with your wet finger in the air, must be right.

markodaly

Lundstram wrote: »

It won't be the government's choice when we open up, once the UK reopen fully in June, that's game, set and match for the vast majority of Irish people adhering to restrictions. There will be a small cohort of diehards who will want the status quo so let them hide away indefinitely if they wish.

It's going to be a good summer.

In regards the UK government, why would you trust them more than our own?
Id imagine that restrictions will be eased this summer, but completely? Nope

For example, it was Mardi Gras in Sydney, NSW last weekend. There has not been a local case there in over 5 weeks, in Sydney, yet the traditional parade was cancelled as it usually attracts a crowd of over 100,000 people.

Why mention this? Feb 2020 normal is a long way away yet.

Mr. Karate

papu wrote: »

Tries what again, a global pandemic?

Find some reason to lock us down again.

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

In regards the UK government, why would you trust them more than our own?
Id imagine that restrictions will be eased this summer, but completely? Nope

I don't trust the Brits in the least but I can accept the clear and obvious reality that as far as vaccination goes they're probably the only country in Europe who are doing a good job. The rest of us have cowardly governments ceding power to the EU, claiming it's the best we can do (Brits are proving otherwise) and avoiding any accountability nationally.

For example, it was Mardi Gras in Sydney, NSW last weekend. There has not been a local case there in over 5 weeks, in Sydney, yet the traditional parade was cancelled as it usually attracts a crowd of over 100,000 people.

Why mention this? Feb 2020 normal is a long way away yet.

I must have missed the memo that the Aussies had finished vaccinating everyone.

aido79

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Find some reason to lock us down again.

I just can't understand this way of thinking. Why do you believe the government wants to lock us down? How does it benefit them?

ypres5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do you think this?

he thinks the vaccines don't work despite every scrap of evidence saying they do

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

I must have missed the memo that the Aussies had finished vaccinating everyone.

IF everyone is vaccinated and IF there are ZERO local cases, then yes one can go back to normal.

But if there are local cases, then stuff like large crowds as parades, festivals, sporting events, or travel to wherever you want, without some checks, are not going to happen.

Mr. Karate

aido79 wrote: »

I just can't understand this way of thinking. Why do you believe the government wants to lock us down? How does it benefit them?

Power and Complete Control over us.

ujjjjjjjjj

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Flu doesn't worry me in the slightest neither does Covid but I can see some people freaking about it. Tony has form when it comes to hyping it up.

Thanks for posting that clip, gives me the shivers just watching it as you realise exactly how we ended up where we are.........

ujjjjjjjjj

markodaly wrote: »

IF everyone is vaccinated and IF there are ZERO local cases, then yes one can go back to normal.

But if there are local cases, then stuff like large crowds as parades, festivals, sporting events, or travel to wherever you want, without some checks, are not going to happen.

Cases are irrelevant, if hospitalisation and deaths are low we move on. Zero covid is a total and utter fantasy. This is an endemic virus.

markodaly

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Cases are irrelevant, if hospitalisation and deaths are low we move on. Zero covid is a total and utter fantasy. This is an endemic virus.

As per the WHO, CDC, ECDC and other public health NGO's that is a dangerous game, that should be avoided, but I guess our resident public health experts know better.

VonLuck

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Power and Complete Control over us.

Yes, a concerted effort by the world's governments to keep us all under their thumb. I wonder if they decided that at last year's AGM?

papu

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Power and Complete Control over us.

Conspiracy theories forum is that way. 》

Mr. Karate

VonLuck wrote: »

Yes, a concerted effort by the world's governments to keep us all under their thumb. I wonder if they decided that at last year's AGM?

So its only a coincidence that this has been very Socialist/Communist in approach? Govt controlled economy ["You're business isn't essential. You have to close it until we say you can open it.", "You're not an essential worker. You have to stay home until we say otherwise.". Plus telling us where we can go, how far we can go and who we can see and not see]

paddyisreal

markodaly wrote: »

IF everyone is vaccinated and IF there are ZERO local cases, then yes one can go back to normal.

But if there are local cases, then stuff like large crowds as parades, festivals, sporting events, or travel to wherever you want, without some checks, are not going to happen.

But but the vaccines don't stop transmission of the virus so how do you get to zero??? Like the flu jab doesn't bring the number of flu cases to zero.

GeorgeBailey

Mr. Karate wrote: »

So its only a coincidence that this has been very Socialist/Communist in approach? Govt controlled economy ["You're business isn't essential. You have to close it until we say you can open it.", "You're not an essential worker. You have to stay home until we say otherwise.". Plus telling us where we can go, how far we can go and who we can see and not see]

Fair points. I certainly can't see any other reason why they'd be trying to keep people apart during a pandemic.

drunkmonkey

aido79 wrote: »

I just can't understand this way of thinking. Why do you believe the government wants to lock us down? How does it benefit them?

Who's calling the shots and does the restrictions benefit their team, I think so.
MM and Leo are caught by the short and curly's, you had Pat Kenny accusing them of murder on National radio, they can't row against the public health advice. We're stuck, I'm not seeing a way out with NPHET in complete control backed by the Garda Síochána.

Mr. Karate

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Fair points. I certainly can't see any other reason why they'd be trying to keep people apart during a pandemic.

Because these clowns have proven they will never take advantage of a situation. :rolleyes:

I'm sure if they tried real hard they could have figured out how to deal with a virus a 99.96% survival rate [and a 95% survival rate for the vulnerable]

Samsonsmasher

paddyisreal wrote: »

But but the vaccines don't stop transmission of the virus so how do you get to zero??? Like the flu jab doesn't bring the number of flu cases to zero.

Guaranteed they will try and lock us down and probably succeed because there will be cases and deaths and the majority even if they are presumably vaccinated will still go along with it.
I have no doubt it would happen. I met people wearing 2 masks in the park today. Wearing gloves. Rubbing sanitizer on their hands. In a park.

El_Duderino 09

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do you think this?

I think the summer will be great because the virus seems a to be seasonal. Numbers are going down and the vaccine is being rolled out. The summer will see most restrictions loosened and lifted.

The questions which remain are about winter - because the virus seems to be seasonal. Whether the numbers stay low enough to avoid reimposing restrictions is the question which remains.

On one hand we have the seasonality of the virus and reduced or completely lifted restrictions (full stadiums, concerts, nightclubs, public transport, Christmas travel etc) and on the other hand we have the majority of the population vaccinated. So what will happen? How high will transmissions go and what will the hospitalisation and death rate be and will we need restrictions to control them?

Those are the big questions which remain. But this summer will be great

paddyisreal

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Guaranteed they will try and lock us down and probably succeed because there will be cases and deaths and the majority even if they are presumably vaccinated will still go along with it.
I have no doubt it would happen. I met people wearing 2 masks in the park today. Wearing gloves. Rubbing sanitizer on their hands. In a park.

But we need to get to zero covid!!!! Like we have zero flu, zero stds etc covid is here to stay and we may get used to living with it. The vaccine will hopefully stop the hospital admissions but just wait for Sam mcconkey or one of the experts to rollout case numbers and long covid

El_Duderino 09

ypres5 wrote: »

he thinks the vaccines don't work despite every scrap of evidence saying they do

Who thinks the vaccines don’t work?