When will it all end?

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The price of Christmas is where we are now as you well know because you were warned in advance, even by the govt.

looks like the 3rd wave was silently wreaking havoc long before Christmas. In fact it started as early as 22 November. So those of you who have being blaming the madness of the Irish out partying and killing their elderly relatives need to stop and maybe need to apologise. This is a pandemic and no amount of finger pointing and blaming would have stopped it. It seems to have hit peak point right in line with our annual wave of flu..... ironic that isnt it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

Natterjack from Kerry

Mr. Karate wrote: »

You're given a certificate to prove you're vaccinated. Once I'm vaccinated and I can prove it then I'm not wearing them anymore. The Mask Gestapo who want us to wear them forever just so they can feel safe can do one. Let them move to China if they want to wear them forever.

The mask is to stop your spreading covid to others. How could you be so selfish as to wear one as long as you are no vaccinated, and then once you are, to hell with any one else. Great attitude.

Tazz T

Deleted User wrote: »

looks like the 3rd wave was silently wreaking havoc long before Christmas. In fact it started as early as 22 November. So those of you who have being blaming the madness of the Irish out partying and killing their elderly relatives need to stop and maybe need to apologise. This is a pandemic and no amount of finger pointing and blaming would have stopped it. It seems to have hit peak point right in line with our annual wave of flu..... ironic that isnt it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

You would have to conjecture that a lot of the third wave was contributable to the UK variant hitting us earlier because of our obvious links with the UK. Third waves only occurring now in Europe are being attributed to the very same more infectious variant - even in places that have been in lockdown as long as us.

Mr. Karate

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

The mask is to stop your spreading covid to others. How could you be so selfish as to wear one as long as you are no vaccinated, and then once you are, to hell with any one else. Great attitude.

Its just as selfish to expect people to keep wearing them just to accommodate you.

TonyMaloney

[Deleted User] wrote: »

looks like the 3rd wave was silently wreaking havoc long before Christmas. In fact it started as early as 22 November. So those of you who have being blaming the madness of the Irish out partying and killing their elderly relatives need to stop and maybe need to apologise. This is a pandemic and no amount of finger pointing and blaming would have stopped it. It seems to have hit peak point right in line with our annual wave of flu..... ironic that isnt it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

I've no idea how you've come to the conclusion that what happened at Christmas was inevitable.

It certainly isn't implied from that article

HansKroenke

aido79 wrote: »

No just people, possibly like yourself, who don't believe mask wearing helps stop the spread of covid19.

"tinfoil hatter" and "conspiracy theorist" labels being insinuated now, these attacks are like toys being thrown from a pram when you are called out for being smug, self-righteous, pompous but ultimately ignorant.

mightyreds

mightyreds wrote: »

CDC allowing vaccinated people meet indoors without masks and social distancing, those unknowns seem to be unravelling quickly

The word your looking for is resolving not unravelling

Silentcorner

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I've no idea how you've come to the conclusion that what happened at Christmas was inevitable.

It certainly isn't implied from that article

Where is the nearest country to us that managed to avoid a winter surge?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

looks like the 3rd wave was silently wreaking havoc long before Christmas. In fact it started as early as 22 November. So those of you who have being blaming the madness of the Irish out partying and killing their elderly relatives need to stop and maybe need to apologise. This is a pandemic and no amount of finger pointing and blaming would have stopped it. It seems to have hit peak point right in line with our annual wave of flu..... ironic that isnt it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

I count 3 threads now where the misunderstandings of a journalist on what are essentially periods of time for reporting purposes, are presented as evidence of a surge starting on nov 22nd

Natterjack from Kerry

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Its just as selfish to expect people to keep wearing them just to accommodate you.

It isnt to accomodate me. Its to avoid you spreading covid to others.

Are you for real ???

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Its just as selfish to expect people to keep wearing them just to accommodate you.

Is this the theory that all altruism is essentially selfish in that the altruistic act is purely for the individuals ego, or is it an extremely bad point where person a wearing a mask because they don’t want to spread Covid should they have it is the same a person b who doesn’t want to wear a mask because “nazi mask gestapo”?

Doctor Jimbob

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

It isnt to accomodate me. Its to avoid you spreading covid to others.

Are you for real ???

There's increasing evidence that vaccination helps to stop spread. I'm not an anti mask type by any stretch of the imagination (in fact I'd be happy enough wearing one in the winter in future to reduce my chances of spreading any kind of respiratory virus), but calling people selfish for not wearing masks after being vaccinated is a bit much.

Natterjack from Kerry

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

There's increasing evidence that vaccination helps to stop spread. I'm not an anti mask type by any stretch of the imagination (in fact I'd be happy enough wearing one in the winter in future to reduce my chances of spreading any kind of respiratory virus), but calling people selfish for not wearing masks after being vaccinated is a bit much.

Yes, possible evidence. That it 'helps' to stop it. For the sake of a few months until every one is vaccinated, its hardly that much imposition to expect people to continue to protect each other. Unless you are a selfish git I guess.

Doctor Jimbob

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Yes, possible evidence. That it 'helps' to stop it. For the sake of a few months until every one is vaccinated, its hardly that much imposition to expect people to continue to protect each other. Unless you are a selfish git I guess.

I don't know, masks seem to bother some people more than others. Everyone is different. I've gotten used to them myself and like I said, happy enough to keep wearing one but I can see why others would feel differently.

drunkmonkey

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

The mask is to stop your spreading covid to others.

1% possibly by 2% indoors and that's cases not ICU admissions, definitely not worth the disconnect.

In what part of the way back to normal should they go?

gozunda

francogarbanzo wrote: »

Go on then. Refute it.

Refute bs? How do you do than then?

Natterjack from Kerry

drunkmonkey wrote: »

1% possibly by 2% indoors and that's cases not ICU admissions, definitely not worth the disconnect.

In what part of the way back to normal should they go?

100% vaccinated.

Scotty #

JDD wrote: »

Tell me this though, what makes you think that we will have restrictions next winter?

You mean apart form the medical experts, WHO, scientists, doctors, virologists, immunologists. health advisers, the UK Roadmap, and world leaders stating it? Hmmm, call it a hunch.

Scotty #

Mr. Karate wrote: »

You're given a certificate to prove you're vaccinated.

No you're not.

But I'm not surprised you'd say you are. It's just another example of misinformed shyite talk that's rampant throughout this thread. In 16 years on boards I've never seen a thread with so much inaccuracies, misinformation, and out right lies declared as proven facts.

Protip: when you post ****e on boards and 12 people like your post, it doesn't validate your 'fact'. It just means there's 12 more loons on the thread.

The whole thread belongs in Conspiracy Theories.

None of us know what's coming. None of us. We can only hope.

FintanMcluskey

Deleted User wrote: »

looks like the 3rd wave was silently wreaking havoc long before Christmas. In fact it started as early as 22 November. So those of you who have being blaming the madness of the Irish out partying and killing their elderly relatives need to stop and maybe need to apologise. This is a pandemic and no amount of finger pointing and blaming would have stopped it. It seems to have hit peak point right in line with our annual wave of flu..... ironic that isnt it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

What if mitigation measures make little difference in the long term and the highly transmissible virus, not people, is to blame after all.

FintanMcluskey

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I don't know, masks seem to bother some people more than others. Everyone is different. I've gotten used to them myself and like I said, happy enough to keep wearing one but I can see why others would feel differently.

I find them a great nose warmer. I even wear it walking outdoors in the cold

Micky 32

Scotty # wrote: »

and out right lies declared as proven facts.

You should calm down, they say high blood pressure could be an underlying issue if you catch covid. Be careful there now.

So what lies declared as proven fact were posted? I’m curious to know what they are.

francogarbanzo

gozunda wrote: »

Refute bs? How do you do than then?

If it was refutable, you’d refute it. You can’t though, can you? It’s usually pretty easy to refute BS. That’s the nature of BS.

Hobgoblin11

Scotty # wrote: »

No you're not.

But I'm not surprised you'd say you are. It's just another example of misinformed shyite talk that's rampant throughout this thread. In 16 years on boards I've never seen a thread with so much inaccuracies, misinformation, and out right lies declared as proven facts.

Protip: when you post ****e on boards and 12 people like your post, it doesn't validate your 'fact'. It just means there's 12 more loons on the thread.

The whole thread belongs in Conspiracy Theories.

None of us know what's coming. None of us. We can only hope.

if you are a healthcare worker you get a cert

aido79

Mr. Karate wrote: »

You're given a certificate to prove you're vaccinated. Once I'm vaccinated and I can prove it then I'm not wearing them anymore. The Mask Gestapo who want us to wear them forever just so they can feel safe can do one. Let them move to China if they want to wear them forever.

I'm just saying that many people will use the fact that other people are walking around without masks because they have been vaccinated to abandon masks wearing because they don't agree with it even though they have no intention of getting vaccinated ever.

aido79

HansKroenke wrote: »

"tinfoil hatter" and "conspiracy theorist" labels being insinuated now, these attacks are like toys being thrown from a pram when you are called out for being smug, self-righteous, pompous but ultimately ignorant.

The only thing I'm insinuating is the possibility that you are against mask wearing.
Your rant is just paranoia. I didn't mention anything about tinfoil hats or conspiracy theorists.

PTH2009

So on the Claire Byrne show they done a magic poll on 1000 aldults 'should music festivals go ahead this year if a large Majority of the population has been vaccined ?'

Yes- 33%
No- 49%
Don't Know- 12%

NPHET be very happy with that

Micky 32

PTH2009 wrote: »

So on the Claire Byrne show they done a magic poll on 1000 aldults 'should music festivals go ahead this year if a large Majority of the population has been vaccined ?'

Yes- 33%
No- 49%
Don't Know- 12%

NPHET be very happy with that

I think as society opens up when vaccinated i have a feeling those figures might start changing a bit.

Frozen Veg

PTH2009 wrote: »

So on the Claire Byrne show they done a magic poll on 1000 aldults 'should music festivals go ahead this year if a large Majority of the population has been vaccined ?'

Yes- 33%
No- 49%
Don't Know- 12%

NPHET be very happy with that

Like most things these days, the poll doesn't add up.

PTH2009

Micky 32 wrote: »

I think as society opens up when vaccinated i have a feeling those figures might start changing a bit.

Some professor on now saying 80% of the population will have to be vaccinated for festivals/gigs to return

CB is bloody thrilled with the poll result