When will it all end?

drunkmonkey

NeuralNetwork wrote: »

The Swine Flu epidemic was very much less dramatic than this. I remember hand sanitisers appearing in various places but that was about it.

There was a big availability it Tamiflu as a treatment and some high speed vaccine rollout, which didn’t get all that much uptake from what I remember of it.

I got that in the middle of a course I was doing and had to resit part of it. It was a fairly nasty dose.

Pretty much they same hype with just the added bonus of socialist media this time. Houlihan was a regular on the evening news with the NPHET or whatever they were called back then, Fauci the same hyping it up statewide.

Funny you mention Tamiflu, https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-pill-shows-promise-in-preliminary-testing-11615006861

It's all a bit of history repeating itself.

suicide_circus

0lddog wrote: »

Are we supposed to believe that a year into this NPHET still dont have accurate daily figures ?

Yes because NPHET is an arm of the HSE and the HSE is and always has been a shambolic dumpster fire of an organisation. Yet despite knowing this, people hang on their every word and trust them implicitly. Absolute insanity.

HBC08

Scotty # wrote: »

No you're not.

But I'm not surprised you'd say you are. It's just another example of misinformed shyite talk that's rampant throughout this thread. In 16 years on boards I've never seen a thread with so much inaccuracies, misinformation, and out right lies declared as proven facts.

Protip: when you post ****e on boards and 12 people like your post, it doesn't validate your 'fact'. It just means there's 12 more loons on the thread.

The whole thread belongs in Conspiracy Theories.

None of us know what's coming. None of us. We can only hope.

Couldn't sum it up better.
By the way,if you get vaccinated you get a small paper card with the date you got vaccinated hand written on it,is that a cert?
I don't even know where mine is.

NeuralNetwork

I love how the American buzz words or “the socialist media” get dumped in. How is the media in 2021 socialist? Good old socialist BSkyB or CNN?!

How was the media in 2009 different?!

This is a very, very different disease to Swine Flu, which we were able to contain without any massive consequences.

But yeah just throw in socialist, liberal, and a few other random buzz words. That will explain the biology!

The one thing we didn’t have in 2009 was mainstream internet conspiracy theories claiming the flu didn’t exist and politics in key anglophone countries was a hell of a lot more boring, pragmatic and stable.

Micky 32

the kelt wrote: »

Its amazing how many posters here who just come on this thread every day to say "well we really dont know when it will end and whats going to happen"

Every day, the same thing, ad nauseam, rinse and repeat?

Why?

The thread is about people discussing when this will all end, poster comes on and gives their opinion as to when that might be the case followed by "well we really dont know when it will end and whats going to happen"

No we dont know, we cant tell the future but wouldnt mind having a discussion about it and yes we heard ye the first time like! We get that!!

Its a bit like sitting in bar in the good old times having a discussion about things over a pint, "well lads whos going to win the match on saturday?" being interrupted by the pub dose (every pub has a dose no one wants to get stuck talking to) shouting over at you "well we really dont know whats going to happen"

"jaysus lads the long term weather forecast is giving that we will have great weather over the Easter, be great to get out" followed by the dose, "long term weather forecasting is notoriously inaccurate so we dont know whats going to happen"

"well lads what do ye make of Trump, will he run again in 2024 or....." followed by dose "well we dont really know what will happen as he may face some financial issues in the intervening years and...."

"Ah here **** it lets go somewhere else lads"

Weighing it all up and with the data that emerges everyday fast forward to this day 12 months time there will be some that will be eating their words, no correction choking on them :pac:

Either way history has taught us pandemics never last forever vaccines or not. The vaccines will help speed up the end process.

Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

My GF had a phone call from beauty salon telling her they are taking bookings for end of April.

End is in sight.







Yes yes, we just dont know. :pac:

Some beauticans and hairdressers are open on the quiet. The other half got her hair done at the weekend .

JDD

Deleted User wrote: »

Some beauticans and hairdressers are open on the quiet. The other half got her hair done at the weekend .

I know my hairdresser said back in October that if the salon closed again, she'd be doing hair from her house. I don't really blame her - you can survive for a couple of months on the PUP but after a while you have to start making the right choice for your immediate family, even if that's at odds with what is the right choice for society at large.

I've been tempted to contact her a couple of times, but to be honest I've never been high maintenance so I can survive a bit longer. I know friends who are much more meticulous about their appearance and I'd say it's those kinds of people who end up taking advantage of hairdressing nixers.

JDD

JDD wrote: »

I know my hairdresser said back in October that if the salon closed again, she'd be doing hair from her house. I don't really blame her - you can survive for a couple of months on the PUP but after a while you have to start making the right choice for your immediate family, even if that's at odds with what is the right choice for society at large.

I've been tempted to contact her a couple of times, but to be honest I've never been high maintenance so I can survive a bit longer. I know friends who are much more meticulous about their appearance and I'd say it's those kinds of people who end up taking advantage of hairdressing nixers.

My other halfs hairdressor contacted her to say she was reopening on the quiet and did she want to get her hair done. She told her she couldnt continue on the PUP while struggling to pay bills. She is only looking after her regulars at the moment. Cant blame her for reopening tho. Say there is a good few of them doing it on the quiet at the moment

Level 42

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

My GF had a phone call from beauty salon telling her they are taking bookings for end of April.

End is in sight.








Yes yes, we just dont know. :pac:

Mickey must of rang the salon

Micky 32

Level 42 wrote: »

Mickey must of rang the salon

No, April would be a bit soon IMO. We won’t have the masses vaccinated by April. If i had rang them i would have said late summer/autumn before thinking about reopening.

I have a feeling some think i’m anti restrictions on here. Further from the truth. The current lockdown is necessary and i don’t think we should just open up until enough people are vaccinated or numbers are low in conjunction with vaccinations. I have parents in their 70’s with heart conditions and they are my main concern. These vaccines will be a game changer.

Hooked

Deleted User wrote: »

Some beauticans and hairdressers are open on the quiet. The other half got her hair done at the weekend .

A lot are - and who could blame them. 1 on 1 service - with sterlised instruments and both masked up. A total joke to still have them shut when the likes of B@Q, Halfords and supermarkets are packed!

Don't get me started on the 5km travel restriction. UTTER FÜCK1NG NONSENSE at this stage. What difference does it make if we are outdoors in a packed playground within 5km or in total isolation on a remote beach or off the beaten track.

I'm happy to adhere to all the "rules" but the 5km restriction is beyond a feckin' joke now... Prisoners in our own country.

Ginger n Lemon

Hooked wrote: »

A lot are - and who could blame them. 1 on 1 service - with sterlised instruments and both masked up. A total joke to still have them shut when the likes of B@Q, Halfords and supermarkets are packed!

Don't get me started on the 5km travel restriction. UTTER FÜCK1NG NONSENSE at this stage. What difference does it make if we are outdoors in a packed playground within 5km or in total isolation on a remote beach or off the beaten track.

I'm happy to adhere to all the "rules" but the 5km restriction is beyond a feckin' joke now... Prisoners in our own country.

5km has nothing to do with the virus. its to prevent evictions, not only of individuals but of businesses also (tons of rent in arrears now)

Hooked

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

5km has nothing to do with the virus. its to prevent evictions, not only of individuals but of businesses also (tons of rent in arrears now)

Well if it is.. they could've tackled this issue separate to jailing the rest of us.

Insanity!

Scotty #

Hooked wrote: »

Well if it is..

It isn't. Just more nonsense.

Plumbthedepths

Scotty # wrote: »

It isn't. Just more nonsense.

Is it? If only there was a way to check if something is true or false....... For someone here 16 years you don't seem to know about backing up a claim.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40068911.html

plodder

Hooked wrote: »

Well if it is.. they could've tackled this issue separate to jailing the rest of us.

Insanity!

The eviction ban is linked to the 5km restriction. Not the other way round.

If the 5km restriction is lifted, which hopefully it is soon, then they will have to find another thing to hang the eviction ban on.

Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

5km has nothing to do with the virus. its to prevent evictions, not only of individuals but of businesses also (tons of rent in arrears now)

This is just rubbish

Ginger n Lemon

bubblypop wrote: »

This is just rubbish

Maybe you are right. Virus does tend to kill you and your granny the minute you go 5.1km from your house.








:rolleyes:

CollectThat

Micky 32 wrote: »

No, April would be a bit soon IMO. We won’t have the masses vaccinated by April. If i had rang them i would have said late summer/autumn before thinking about reopening.

I have a feeling some think i’m anti restrictions on here. Further from the truth. The current lockdown is necessary and i don’t think we should just open up until enough people are vaccinated or numbers are low in conjunction with vaccinations. I have parents in their 70’s with heart conditions and they are my main concern. These vaccines will be a game changer.

You think we shouldn't open anything until late summer/autumn We had hairdressers up last summer way earlier than that. Why would we be closed down longer now?

Additionally do you have any suggestions for how we should all payback the massive debt we are taking for these lockdowns? For a virus where the vulnerable will be vaccinated long before that

Scotty #

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Is it? If only there was a way to check if something is true or false....... For someone here 16 years you don't seem to know about backing up a claim.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40068911.html

You clearly don't understand a word of the article you've linked to.

Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Maybe you are right. Virus does tend to kill you and your granny the minute you go 5.1km from your house.








:rolleyes:

Yep, that's exactly what that post meant
#rolleyes#

Hooked

Hooked wrote: »

A lot are - and who could blame them. 1 on 1 service - with sterlised instruments and both masked up. A total joke to still have them shut when the likes of B@Q, Halfords and supermarkets are packed!

Don't get me started on the 5km travel restriction. UTTER FÜCK1NG NONSENSE at this stage. What difference does it make if we are outdoors in a packed playground within 5km or in total isolation on a remote beach or off the beaten track.

I'm happy to adhere to all the "rules" but the 5km restriction is beyond a feckin' joke now... Prisoners in our own country.

I went to the mountains to hike on Sunday , well out of my 5km. I didn't meet any checkpoints. It was the best day I had in ages, and lifted my mood hugely. It was the first time I felt a sense of freedom since Christmas. I also went last week to my hairdresser. She has a private studio separate to her house. She only ever had one client at a time. Masks, visors, perspex, hand sanitizer, contactless payment, all available and were used by us. Windows were also open so I kept my jacket on.
Her husband is a taxi driver in a rural location so has been on PUP for a year now. They have kids and a mortgage so I was very happy to get my hair done and to support her.

Scotty #

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Maybe you are right. Virus does tend to kill you and your granny the minute you go 5.1km from your house.

Aaaaannnnddddd we're back. The usual "I've nothing intelligent to add so I'll just waffle some crap out. Waffle, waffle, waffle... "

What was someone saying earlier about rinse and repeat???

Ginger n Lemon

bubblypop wrote: »

This is just rubbish

bubblypop wrote: »

Yep, that's exactly what that post meant
#rolleyes#

You are too expansive on your posts. too much info.

Plumbthedepths

Scotty # wrote: »

You clearly don't understand a word of the article you've linked to.

It's not in complicated English , quite easy to understand.
To me your responses are coloured by the fact you dislike people disagreeing with you. Instead of a smartass put down, prehaps it would be better to explain why they are wrong and provide some evidence to back up your assertion.

Micky 32

Micky 32 wrote: »

No, April would be a bit soon IMO. We won’t have the masses vaccinated by April. If i had rang them i would have said late summer/autumn before thinking about reopening.

I have a feeling some think i’m anti restrictions on here. Further from the truth. The current lockdown is necessary and i don’t think we should just open up until enough people are vaccinated or numbers are low in conjunction with vaccinations. I have parents in their 70’s with heart conditions and they are my main concern. These vaccines will be a game changer.

0 new Covid deaths as of last night. That should have been the breaking news headline. Not Megan and Harry. The lockdown, even though everyone is fed up of it, is working. It's doing what it was meant to. Open up too soon though, before more of the population has been vaccinated, and we'll be locked down again.

The Big Easy

Deleted User wrote: »

0 new Covid deaths as of last night. That should have been the breaking news headline. Not Megan and Harry. The lockdown, even though everyone is fed up of it, is working. It's doing what it was meant to. Open up too soon though, before more of the population has been vaccinated, and we'll be locked down again.

Oh yes, the stay locked down so we don't have to be locked down logic - genius!

JDD

We're going down by about 20% a week on new infections. Obviously that 20% will probably go down to 10-15% once the schools open fully, but even with that caveat we should be under 100 new infections a day average by the end of April.

IF vaccine supply keeps up, we should have all over 70's and all vulnerable vaccinated with at least their first jab by end April.

I don't see any reason, any reason AT ALL, in those circumstances, why retail, hairdressers and beauticians could not open up on 1 June. If Paddy Power did odds on it, I'd be putting €50 down that retail will open, along with restaurants and gastropubs, after the June Bank Holiday.

Scotty #

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It's not in complicated English , quite easy to understand.
To me your responses are coloured by the fact you dislike people disagreeing with you. Instead of a smartass put down, prehaps it would be better to explain why they are wrong and provide some evidence to back up your assertion.

Plumbthedepths did you read the article you linked to? It explains the legislation quite simply. It's not my opinion, it's not me disagreeing with someone. The legislation is black and white. Ginger is completely wrong (and I suspect he knows it) when he says the 5km limit has nothing to do with the virus and is to prevent evictions. It's nonsense. He back tracked on it in his next post. It's just yet another example of the waffle in this thread purported to be fact.

Plumbthedepths

Scotty # wrote: »

Plumbthedepths did you read the article you linked to? It explains the legislation quite simply. It's not my opinion, it's not me disagreeing with someone. The legislation is black and white. Ginger is completely wrong (and I suspect he knows it) when he says the 5km limit has nothing to do with the virus and is to prevent evictions. It's nonsense. He back tracked on it in his next post. It's just another example of the waffle in this thread purported to be fact.

My response is linked to what Hooked said and your response to them.